Kuchen für den Bischof... Skandal! If you read some Spanish, please read this. Kuchen für den Bischof... keine Ursache wenn sonst... http://www.zenit.org/article-39168?l=spanish

Agree Cannoli...

Rope,


There is another phenomenon at work here that (without mentioning names) I've seen occur several times at gloria.tv and at numerous other places on the internet. That is the open manifestation of ego, pride, the lack of humility and self-absorption. Basically, it is demonstrated by the absolute unwillingness of an individual to acknowledge the fact that he/she can be mistaken about one thing or another. There are psychological reasons for this but, for now, I would simply prefer to say … [More]

How about it?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYLpzXO40Zk

Interesting analysis, Rope.



it would certainly portray him for who he really is.

What would that be?

Because he knows if he held his same position in regards to his Excellency, with that of it being his mother or child, it would certainly portray him for who he really is. On the other hand, say if he would show some hair on his backbone and did go after the perpetrator who caused harm to his family it would show him as a plain hypocrite. So, guess either way,.... he's a Big loser.

Rope,

You asked a fair question but ACL does not want to answer.
What could be the reason for his refusal?

@EJG - I do not place internet resources above the hard copy library Book resource. And while the uploaded versions you site are exact, one canot draw upon New Advent as ones only source of information or in fact, internet resources in general. I consider this 'lazy' research and quite inconsequntial.
@Rope - What on earth are you on about?? Your question is inappropriate; as I said, that is not the issue!

ACL...You still have not given a response to my post/question.

Again, ...
If your mother or child were assaulted, would you have the same attitude and approach as with his Excellency?

Josephus...das ist doch unser Werk!
GTV kann da nix dafür...es lässt die "Taten" seiner User so stehen, irgendwie wird uns da der Spiegel vorgehalten!

@Cannoli: Go to the library and look up : Fortescue, Adrian (1934). Ceremonies of the Roman Rite Described. Burns, Oates & Washbourne ltd; 5th ed edition.

Unfreiwillige Komik auf GloriaTV:
Als ersten Beitrag unter der Rubrik "gern gesehen" findet man ein Video mit dem Titel: "Torte ins Gesicht für Bischof Leonard"
Sehr lustig!

None online mate! lol You'll have to get yourself into a real library! But lets leave this at it is because it is quite trite and not worth the continuous banter. Do have a good evening.

um ya,ACLumsden you are incorrect about New Advent.it is a proper resource for pre-concillar church approved published online books. i wouldnt ever compare the New Advent site in general or the 'old' Catholic Encyclopedia specifically at all to Wikipedia. New Advent just took the ENTIRE 1912/1917 Church approved print version 1917 Catholic Encyclopedia and just published it online (along with old editions of the Summa and Church Fathers and Bible,)we have the exact same Catholic Encyclopedia in … [More]

So, ACL doesn't approve of the basic yet worthy Catholic research tool called the “Catholic Encyclopedia” from New Advent because it proves him to be mistaken on a basic point of nomenclature? LOL
I suppose you will also reject the identical answer given from another Catholic internet site, again, because that answer proves you to be mistaken.

Re: How do I address a bishop?
In spoken conversation, you would call your bishop "Bishop (last name)" or "Your Excellency." In opening a letter, you … [More]

Ah.....Cannoli, how easy it is to get information online. It seems that you don't do much good research (are you a shut-in perhapse?). "New Advent" site is a little like "Wikipedia.com" which any good scholar will call "Wickedpedia.com"! It is filled with half truths and unsubstantiated claims. DO go to your nearest RC library and look up protocol for Roman Clergy in Europe and her Colonies. I think you'll find that the USA is quite odd (since on the whole, you chaps are not monachists!).

So, … [More]

We do seem not to be understanding each other here.
How true!

"His Excellency", in traditional prelate nomenclature, refers to a Cardinal.
How false!

When making an assertion, it's wise to check your facts before posting. This is especially true when you are attempting to correct another poster.



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"The Catholic Directory" (London, 1906) gives the following brief directions for forms of address, which, with the slight … [More]

We do seem not to be understanding each other here. Therefore, of your charity, I bow out of this pointless discussion. Not well: "His Excellency", in traditional prelate nomenclature, refers to a Cardinal. The correct address for an Archbishop is "Your Grace" or in the passive "His Grace; for a Bishop it is "My Lord" or in the passive "His Lordship". Take care dear friends.

ACL..... If your mother or child was assaulted, would you have the same attitude and approach as with his Excellency?

Therefore, leave to God the retribution, and take care of the injured!

So then, it's open season on Catholic clergy? If you disagree with a cleric, stuff a pie in his face. You will escape and there will be no consequences to your action.

I'm afraid not. Permitting these kinds of actions, without seeking justice, is the message that will be sent to like minded degenerates who then will be emboldened to commit even more acts of terrorism on the clergy. Is that the kind of behavior which should … [More]

@Rope and Cannoli: Gosh... I know not of what you speak. However, again you chaps deviate: I said I will take care of His Grace. Now, in traditional circles "His Grace" is the proper referal to an Archbishop. I do not know if this has been kept accross the pond in the USA.... The assailant will be dealt with, for "touch thou not the Lord's annointed" (2Kings). Therefore, leave to God the retribution, and take care of the injured!

"side-tracked"

Indeed!

Is this video about some criminal who disrepsects and assaults a Catholic prelate inside a Church or is it about some leftist Belgian loon who tries to defend the malefactor?

ACL wrote: The Church, while being universal, is run by human beings; people who are sometimes in grave error!

Irrelevant to the video. There is NO excuse for the actions of the perpetrator or for his/her apologists. Save the attacks-- hopefully limited to verbal attacks -- on clerics (justified … [More]

@holyrope - Oh dear.....you keep getting side-tracked! The issue was had nothing to do with what you and Cannoli have embarked upon. My original comment was to call your attention to your caustic remark to Odin the Belgian, who, unlike you chaps over in the USA, live in a very extreme left-wing ecclesial environment. Do take care not to project you own experience of Church onto others. The Church, while being universal, is run by human beings; people who are sometimes in grave error! Put … [More]

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. If there are no consequences to evil actions, would not more of those actions occur with progressively greater ferocity?

Incivility, disrespect, assault, and profaning a holy place are not concepts requiring advanced degrees in ethics to know they are unacceptable in a civilized society. In essence, this is not a “Catholic” issue. Common sense, common courtesy and common decency are universal concepts not limited by … [More]

"evil does not deserve attention"

Well if I would ever get mugged or beaten on the street, I sure hope your not the only one witnessing it.

Your response is exactly what I thought it would be.

I would have done nothing with respect to the assailant; evil does not deserve attention. My attention would be on His Grace and his safety.

Now, subjectively speaking, right and wrong are not as clinically devisible as you might suggest. You might be clear in your mind what this is, but sadly, due to social conditioning, tis not this clear for others - especially in Belgium (having given a few organ recitals there myself!). Things are worse there than they are in the USA.

ACLumsden...Is Holy Scripture different in Belgium than anywhere else? The Catholic faith is Universal, not regional; and it's Not pick n choose.

One doesn't have to be Roman Catholic to know that homosexuality is abnormal. Either be Catholic or leave it.

Guess you haven't had much experience with liberals on a one to one basis ACL....... Odin knows best and neither you nor I could educate him because he doesn't want to be "educated" in the true Catholic faith. The Bible is antiquated and no … [More]

@Holyrope 3 - Odin is Belgian; the church there is UBER-liberal. Therefore, it stands to reason that Odin is just influenced by his unfortunate culture AND that of the Church there. Maybe a little teaching might be in order? Let Odin know HOW and WHY homosexuality is wrong..... don't just slam him!! Tis not Christian to do so....