Michael Voris affirms rigorous interpetation of dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus :says there is no "anonymous Catholic"

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2012/03/michael-voris-affirms-rigorist.html#links

Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Michael Voris affirms rigorist interpretation of dogma outside the church no salvation: says there is no “anonymous Catholic”

When Michael Voris on Real Catholic TV refers to outside the church there is no salvation he means, outside the church no salvation as … [More]

Prayers for Detroit
(pray fro the Bishop, a good man, who has to deal within a local Curia/Chancery in bad need of renewal/reform-EJG)
Please watch the official response from St. Michael's Media to the latest press releases from the Archdiocese of Detroit.
http://youtu.be/RNiOwYtv7oQ
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http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archdiocesan-canon-lawyers-differ-on-asking-realcatholictvcom-to-drop-cath

in reference to above article webiste a reviw Archdiocese of Detroit priests news..
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/reviews/view.cfm?recnum=4507

Detroit? Poor Detroit, not the most blessed city in America; wonder why? Hmmmm

Rhemes,
God reveals His will through others and situations in our lives. I was talking about the request from the Archdiocese as God speaking to Michael Voris. Are you under the impression that we are made aware of His will for us only through some private revelation or inspiration? He doesn't have to pray about it (technically) if his superiors make a legitimate request. That should go without saying. The difference of opinion we have is in whether M. Voris owes any allegiance to the … [More]

I think it would be more heroic to simply heed the request of the Detroit Archdiocese.

To suggest that Voris obeys a bishop who has no jurisdiction, further proves how out of touch you actually are with the Catholic Church of 2011. Actually, I think it would be "more heroic" for you just to shut up, admit you're wrong and go away but I doubt that that will happen either.

As for your insults toward others and me, they can only defile you.

Defile?

LOL
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Gloria … [More]

Rhemes,
I don't know that he needs to discern anything. That's my point. I believe God has already suggested His will to him, and now Mr. Voris has to make a decision. He can certainly consult his own bishop, but I think it would be more heroic to simply heed the request of the Detroit Archdiocese. If he believes that God speaks through the church then the question is only how much does he believe it. The spirit of his apostolate is being tested through patience and obedience. I hope he passes, … [More]

HC,
Straw man case closed (I never opened it). As for your insults toward others and me, they can only defile you. Gloria.tv should outright ban you for that vitriol on a supposedly "more catholic" website. I'M OFFICIALLY MAKING THAT REQUEST. If they don't, that means that they value your input more than mine. And that will be that.

Rhemes,
I spoke my opinion and quoted Saints of the Church, for which I'm apparently a "stupid little man" who would give in to a pedophile as an act of virtue. Go … [More]

It would actually be quite easy to obey as what is being asked for is neither unreasonable nor immoral.

So then, under certain conditions even you WOULD DISOBEY your bishop. Case closed, little man.
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HC, your vulgarity isn't helping your arguments.

Nor is your stupidity helping yours.

Straw man. There's no duty to disobey here. It would actually be quite easy to obey as what is being asked for is neither unreasonable nor immoral.

HC, your vulgarity isn't helping your arguments.

Rhemes, holy obedience doesn't mean obedience only to direct superiors. It means obedience to the will of God and a distaste for one's own will.

And to suggest that blindly obeying clerics is virtuous is clericalism, the attitude that a Roman collar sets a man above all others and he should be obeyed in all matters both religious and secular. What nonsense when bishops throughout history have been responsible for so much evil. It was a bishop who conspired with the English to burn Joan of Arc at the stake. It was the entire bench of bishops in England minus one, John Fisher, who went along with Henry VIII's evil plan to set aside … [More]

Quote me a saint, not a blogger.

"We must put aside all judgment of our own, and keep the mind ever ready and prompt to obey in all things the true Spouse of Christ our Lord, our holy Mother, the hierarchical Church."
--Saint Ignatius of Loyola

”The more we see that any action springs not from the motive of obedience, the more evident is it that it is a temptation of the enemy; for when God sends an inspiration, the very first effect of it is to infuse a spirit of docility.”
--Saint Teresa of … [More]

Whether we agree with the bishops or not, they are legitimate authority.

The conclusion being that bishops are always to be obeyed?

Bull Shite!

Bishops have authority and the duty to teach, govern, and sanctify their flocks in the faith. Their authority is intrinsically linked to the authority of the Pope and the Church. When they teach according to the mind of the Church, the flock is bound to obey. But when a bishop steps outside the deposit of the faith to make up his own rules, the laity … [More]

I just wanted to mention (especially today) that the Holy Family was obedient to a tyrant so that God's will would be fulfilled. I hope that Michael Voris (whom I like) will likewise see God's will in what is happening and follows through in a similar fashion.

Whether we agree with the bishops or not, they are legitimate authority. Due to their special office, they are even more so than our employers, presidents, military leaders, and most certainly Roman emperors.

Salvation comes through the … [More]

HEY! Welcome back holy rope 3!
Long time no see!
Union of prayer!
Deo gratias!

We need more warriors like Michael who care about our Catholic faith enough to Stand Firm and Resolute in its orthodoxy, all the while exposing the enemies! May the Good Lord continue to bless you in your work Michael. Let us please support his work, as he is not alone, but is being a true servant who is answering God's call. Prayers for you Michael, and continued success!

I am convinced it will be the the laity who save this Church from ruin. The battle lines are drawn. Christ's Church is being assalted on all sides by Jews, Muslims, Buddists, Atheists, Protestants etc. Even the Pontiff is ignored by his bishops. In the end, we the faithful the Church Militant (Ecclesia Militans), will triumph. Be fearless, speak up, and defend Christ's church in this godless world.

dear Archdiocese of Detroit ,In meditations written for the Way of the Cross at the Rome Colosseum on Good Friday, March 25, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger said too many Catholics continue to scorn and scourge Jesus in his church.

"Christ suffers in his own church," he said. He described "the falling of many Christians away from Christ and into a godless secularism," but also the fall of those Catholics who abuse the sacraments or their positions in the church.

"How much filth there is in the … [More]

sigh...well as long as a you dont speak about (against) gays/homosexuals agenda, your fine, but if you are a modernist, speak against the Magisterium and promote homosexual lifestyle acceptance,' womyn priests' etc you can be the 'US Catholic' magazine, and the 'National Catholic Reporter'. but"please don't name Bishops,make waves... or call Bishops to holiness" and certainly never speak against unchaste homosexuality and there lifestyles... o...r the homosexually inclined Bishops..... will … [More]

Mike please don't stop! Actually please turn up the heat and be more authentically Catholic! Don't mind my French but screw the diocese of detroit and every bishop that thinks this way. Mike your a shining light in this dark world of ours! God bless you!

Stand firm...fight the good fight. God works through you. Mama mary loves you.

Keep doing what your doing Michael; we're with you in mind, Spirit and Prayer!

We are truly in a spiritual rought storm. But we wont let go the battle. The only way to win the battles, is to do god will and to fight in a spiritual way.
To do god will, is to do what Jesus is telling us through the churche.

We are in a spiritual crusade. Only a few amount of people really know about thise invisible battle. And the only way to see thise invisible battle, is in a spiritual way. The kind of life time thate we are in, is thate the world is going only in a earthly way of living … [More]

Q. Why?

A. It could have something to do with this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDJx49A5D-4

Several comments made by those supporting Voris:
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Archdiocese of Detroit asks Michael Voris to stop using the name ‘Catholic’

What a disgrace.

The Archdiocese of Detroit is enforcing Canon 216 against a faithful, orthodox Catholic, but yet refuses to enforce Canon 915 against all the abortionist and homosexualist "Catholics" within its jurisdiction that are destroying the Church from within. The Archdiocese allows them, in violation of Canon 915, to receive … [More]

Things are not going well in Detroit.

http://www.livingstondaily.com/article/20111201/NEWS01/111201003/Nearly-50-Catholic-parishes-targeted-close-merge-Detroit-suburbs