rhemes1582: There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. This is why I am Catholic, my brother. The reason, there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church, on the face of this earth, is because we have the Sacraments, that Jesus Christ gave us, with His own death. They are so exact, that water,(Baptism, washing away, original sin), and blood, the Eucharist(Eating and Drinking his body and blood, so we are one, with Him, in all things, available from Him), gushed from His side.....I am … [More]

rhemes1582:
Yes rhemes1582: I agree, I was responding to the comments of Mother Teresa, and why she didn't defend her faith......I agree, and maybe rhemes1582 there is something we both are missing, concerning Gods love and his ways. But I also agree with the Catholic model. And that is why I have become Catholic. I can see clearly, in scripture his Church, thats why I evangelize to fundamentalists and protestants. I hope and pray, rhemes1582, that most of my friends, that are intellectuals, … [More]

rhemes1582: Christ made it clear, that if we do not become like little children, we will not enter the Kingdom. Christ said, we must be baptised and born from above to enter the Kingdom. Christ told the rich man, who has done everything correct, that it would be easier for a camel, to get through the eye of a needle, than get into the Kingdom. But He compromised, just a bit, when St. Peter asked Him....But Lord....then who will be saved. And Christ, said....anything, is possible with God. We … [More]

My brothers, you must remember, Mother Teresa, was the greatest example, of the good Samaritan, the world, has ever seen......don't think, for a second, that Christ, when he calls, all to His, judgement, and judges us, on WORKS......TO THE LEAST OF THEM. Don't think, brothers, that many, Buddhist, Hindu's, Muslims, ect. are not going to shine, with the example, of living, a saintly life, and pass with flying colors, in the Judgement seat....because of how they treated the least of them. What … [More]

Dear Mark,

Thank you kindly... I'm going to try to look at these myself and especially the context they were stated in before I make any conclusions about her.

There are plenty of things out there which are falsely attributed to John Paul II, John XXIII or even the second Vatican council and as far as I can tell, perhaps Mother Teresa is something similar.

In any event, I don't think it's against catholic doctrine to say that one wants non-christians to become more charitable or more loving. … [More]

Dear Reesorville,

There are multiple sources for those quotes but here are some sources:

1) Mother Teresa, A Simple Path, ed. Lucinda Vardey (New York: Ballantine Books, 1995), 31

ii) Nina Morgan, Mother Teresa: Saint of the Poor (Austin: Raintree Steck–Vaughn, 1998), 38–39.

iii) I believe you are thinking of the following quote:

“We never try to convert those who receive [aid from Missionaries of Charity] to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of God’s presence … [More]

>>If you knew anything about me then you would know that thinking I >>value the world's opinion would have to be a gross >>mischaracterization.

Yet you support one who sought acclaim of the world, you even mention how she made such progress in the secular world. (Because they loved her?)

>>I of course recognize that salvation can only be found in Jesus, but >>when one offers that message to someone and they do not accept >>it, continuing to do so can often cause the opposite effect.

You are … [More]

StChadwick
>>But you are also downplaying the conversions Mother did bring >>about by living the way that she did.

Conversion to what, universalism? Look I am not saying she is an evil woman, but her theology was off. Saints are examples of the faith, and people will use her as exemplars of the faith, therefore she should not be cannonized.

>> I also contend comparing people of today to times of the past also >>doesnt make someone wrong.

The comparason of any person needs to be against the … [More]

CathPresbyter,

If you knew anything about me then you would know that thinking I value the world's opinion would have to be a gross mischaracterization. I of course recognize that salvation can only be found in Jesus, but when one offers that message to someone and they do not accept it, continuing to do so can often cause the opposite effect. In my personal experience, many times people can be turned off completely from being constantly bombarded with the message of Christ once they have … [More]

Dear Mark,

These quotes specifically are what I'm interested in:

i)“I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic” (Mother Teresa: The Case for The Cause, 29).

ii)“I do convert. I convert you to be a better Hindu, a better Catholic, Muslim, Jain, or Buddhist” (Mother Teresa: The Case for The Cause, 4).

iii) And there was another quote you made somewhere (it may have been in the other video) about Mother … [More]

Dear stchadwick,

As you see, there are priests who believe Mother Teresa is an unworthy candidate for canonization. If you read my book, and I hope you do, you will read a truly objective presentation of Mother Teresa’s virtues and vices. I promise you that you could hate everything I say in the book and still believe you received your money’s worth in research.

CathPresbyter has thoroughly answered your posts but I want to make a couple of comments.

I am so glad that you care enough about … [More]

Dear Reesorville,

I am cannot provide a source that Mother Teresa was not interested in converting non-Christians. If I did, I would be fabricating the source and slandering her. She was interesting in converting non-Christians to her faith, and she believed that faith to be Catholicism. She held many Catholic beliefs; and she held many non-Catholic beliefs, beliefs gravely offensive and injurious to the very heart of Christianity. What would happen if a non-Catholic were to desire to become a … [More]

As for how I preach to my friends, I've shared Christ with them, but they have rejected Him. There could be many reason they choose to do so, religious bias, family, etc. For me, I share and its up to them with the help of the Holy Spirit to accept Him. You really have to have a feel for the people you are dealing with to know how far to "push" so to speak. If I'm just going to berate them about Christ continuously then it would defeat the purpose of befriending them in light of their choice to … [More]

Cath,

But you are also downplaying the conversions Mother did bring about by living the way that she did. Perhaps she wasnt St Francis or St Thomas, but she, you or I arent intended to be them. We are called to be saints in our own right. Examples of past saints and popes continuously are brought up and there is nothing necessarily wrong about how they lived, but I also contend comparing people of today to times of the past also doesnt make someone wrong. This Mother Teresa has pervaded … [More]

>>But that was largely my point is saying we live in a different world >>today

And the apostles were going out into a world where Christianity already existed? Did Paul bend to Alexander the coppersmith? Did he allow himself to be worshipped? Did he not tell the Athenians they are supersticious? They were in a much worse condition than we are today, yet they still proclaimed the Gospel.

>> Not because sin has changed, but because the subjectivity of sin >>and how it relates to mankind has.

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>> it just wasnt a very plausible thing for her to be able to do.

Not plausable to preach the gospel?

>>Her ammo may have then been like St Francis and to preach and >>sometimes use words.

But was St. Francis' evangelization making Hindus better Hindus? (If such a thing would be wanted.) So when he met Saladin, St. Francis did not seek a battle between allah the moon goddess worshipped by moslems and the true God of the universe? He did challenge to walk through fire itself in challenge … [More]

For some reason Stchadwick since my original post to your first message seems to have not made it on gloria TV I wanted to renote some things I have mentioned before.

>>how realistic is it that Mother Teresa would go to a country with so >>many Hindus and expect to make them better Catholics?

This is an interesting play on words, since the majority are Hindu it would be nonsense to "Make them better Catholics." Yet in metaphysics we were taught that being is qualatitive superior IE better. So … [More]

Hi Mark,

Is it possible that you could provide the source for those quotations about her having said that she was not interested in converting non-christians?

God Bless,

Sure, there were many popes of the early centuries that would have also uttered similarly to Pope Eugene - Innocent III and Boniface VIII for example. But that was largely my point is saying we live in a different world today with the ushering in and monumental spread of noncatholic christianity. Would those same popes have ever agreed that the Holy Spirit could ever have existed in other christian churches apart from Rome? Of course not, but that is what She believes today. Not because sin has … [More]

Dear stchadwick,

You said:

“Our world is comprised of a different dynamic today and one has to live out and share their beliefs differently than in times of the past.”

“Even if that was her original reason, she may have realized it just wasnt a very plausible thing for her to be able to do.”

“Her understanding of her mission may have been better understood once she saw the changing dynamic of how one should share ones faith with another because of the pluralistic world we live in.”

“That … [More]

Dear stchadwick,

You said:

Saints were criticized in their lives especially starting in their beatification processes. But that time for Mother has ended. It comes down to the fact that the Church has spoken and any criticism of Mother now becomes a criticism of the Church. She has much more info and better insight of her life than either one of us. We either follow Her or we don't.

Rome has spoken the case is closed? No!

Rome has spoken when she speaks infallibly. If criticisms come after … [More]

Saints were criticized in their lives especially starting in their beatification processes. But that time for Mother has ended. It comes down to the fact that the Church has spoken and any criticism of Mother now becomes a criticism of the Church. She has much more info and better insight of her life than either one of us. We either follow Her or we don't.

Mark,

From the movies I've seen of her life, other faiths there seemed convinced that Mother's presence there was to convert them. Even if that was her original reason, she may have realized it just wasnt a very plausible thing for her to be able to do. Her ammo may have then been like St Francis and to preach and sometimes use words. If she had continued to try and convert people, I believe she would have eventually been martyred and that may not have been her calling, but rather in … [More]

Dear stchadwick,

You said:

“So Mark, how realistic is it that Mother Teresa would go to a country with so many Hindus and expect to make them better Catholics?”

Drop the “better” and you will have the idea. Spreading the Gospel is the missionary mandate of the Church (CCC, 849) and certainly something Mother Teresa wanted to do. Mother Teresa said:

“All souls need to be converted” (Mother Teresa: The Case for The Cause, 45).

You said:

“Our world is comprised of a different dynamic today … [More]

So Mark, how realistic is it that Mother Teresa would go to a country with so many Hindus and expect to make them better Catholics? Our world is comprised of a different dynamic today and one has to live out and share their beliefs differently than in times of the past. I don't believe Mother's first thoughts in going to India was to convert all those nonbelievers; rather she mainly recognized a call that had more to do with the many poor and miserable souls that were dying in the street … [More]