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Schönborn on Gay-attraction
Sokrates  28/05/2012 11:38:37
EWTN-Video Cardinal Schönborn: his experience over many years is that “if a person with same-sex attraction discovers true, chaste friendship, this can be a real way out, a real way out of a situation that is very often a dramatic destruction of … [Plus]
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O-Ton: Schönborn auf Englisch über Homo-Lebensstil
EWTN-Video Kardinal Schönborn bezeichnet den Homo-Lebensstil als "zerstörerisch und unmenschlich".
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philosopher  04/06/2012 01:00:37
Here is the article on the controversy,
http://gloria.tv/?media=275058
And, here is the Cardinal in his own words, but again the question is not of charity but of Church teaching that a person who is engaging in an active mortal sin, and is public about it, and unrepentant should not be allowed to sit in good standing on a parish board or committee.
http://gloria.tv/?media=274081
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philosopher  03/06/2012 21:27:43
The problem is not that we shouldn't be charitable to people with same sex attractions- that is something we all agree on. The problem has been that Bishop Schönborn’s pastoral policy went so far as to allow an active gay man who was living with his gay partner, quite openly and publically, to remain on his parish board and in good standing as an active Catholic in that parish. This was over the objections of the parish priest. That seems to be practicing caritas sans veritas.
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tearlach  01/06/2012 04:55:27
To philosopher, and rhenes1582, do not misunderstand the Cardinal, you need to get some facts straight when emoting any kind of criticism or judgement

(1 Jn 1, 8)
I do not disagree with any of you regarding sin, and the eternal damnation of a soul, but you are missing the point, or you misread the posting where we mentioned about the Cardinal giving advice on pastoral matters regarding the practice and not the teachings, or to put it in other words, the teachings put into actual practice. The … [Plus]
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philosopher  30/05/2012 12:45:13
@tearlach- To be fair, I don't think any of our German Brüder were being harsh or Pharisaical. I lived in Regensburg Germany for 2 years, the heart of Catholic Germany, and I miss the Catholic expressions of faith that permeate the South German culture, something I don’t see among American Catholics. In addition, in many ways the Germans are even more tolerant of people, on the personal level, living alternative lifestyles than Americans are. What upsets many German Catholics is that some … [Plus]
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RomanCandle  30/05/2012 10:30:07
I daily encounter adulterers, fornicators and child killers,
occasionally a homosexual, and rarely a lesbian. If we
wish to seek the conversion of sinners we must fast
and pray under the patronage of Our Lady of Fatima.

I daily encounter priests, occasionally a bishop, and
rarely a cardinal. If wish to seek the sanctification of
priests we must fast and pray under the patronage
of Our Lady of La Salette for holy and faithful priests.

I daily encounter fathers and mothers who choose
to abort … [Plus]
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tearlach  29/05/2012 16:23:55
To all my German brethren, we are called to give life, as Jesus is "LIfe" (says the Lord); we are to build the kingdom of God on earth or put it in other words, in the hearts of people, as we were made out of the earth itself. So I wrote something for you in your language (put aside any pride please, so that you do not commit a sin of harsh judgement and criticism).

Für unsere deutschen Brüder Ich muss dazu sagen Lesen Sie diese drei Verse der Bibel (1 Joh 4, 19-20; 1 Joh 4, 8 und v7; Matth … [Plus]
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soundingjoy  29/05/2012 15:36:13
Very well said, dear Rhemes1582. Mercy, Jesus.
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tearlach  29/05/2012 13:44:25
I feel compelled to make a comment. And I do hope you finish reading the last line if yo start reading this post, but first I will start with 3 verses of the Bible (1 Jn 4, 19-20; 1 Jn 4, 8 and v7; Mat 5, 44)

The Cardinal talks about the relationship that we must have with Jesus, a true relationship he says. Then he talks how there's been many discussions of same sex attraction and where this attraction comes from, and he says that one thing is certain,

"it's a great desire, a great need of … [Plus]
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angelina  28/05/2012 16:28:14
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diana 1  28/05/2012 13:23:40
Brief des Paulus an die Galater 5,16-25.
Darum sage ich: Laßt euch vom Geist leiten, dann werdet ihr das Begehren des Fleisches nicht erfüllen.
Denn das Begehren des Fleisches richtet sich gegen den Geist, das Begehren des Geistes aber gegen das Fleisch; beide stehen sich als Feinde gegenüber, so daß ihr nicht imstande seid, das zu tun, was ihr wollt.
Wenn ihr euch aber vom Geist führen laßt, dann steht ihr nicht unter dem Gesetz.
Die Werke des Fleisches sind deutlich erkennbar: Unzucht, … [Plus]
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philosopher  28/05/2012 13:17:00
Lieber Bischof, bitte unterrichten mit Klarheit zu diesem Thema. Unsere persönliche Beziehung zu Christus in der heiligen Kommunion. Aber, wie kann die gleichen Geschlechts angezogen Person, die Ausagieren ist in der Lage, die Eurcharist würdig erhalten und persönlich, wenn sie nicht glaube, ihr Verhalten falsch ist?
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Ambrosius  28/05/2012 12:08:40
· Euer Ja sei ein Ja, euer Nein ein Nein; alles andere stammt vom Bösen.
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Sankt Michael  28/05/2012 11:41:36
Allmächtiger Gott im Himmel, befrei uns von diesem Schädling Schönborn.
Sende die Kraft des Heiligen Geistes, um gerade solche janusköpfigen Schlangen künftig von Ämtern der Kirche fernzuhalten.
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