SSPX in Schism? No
Quo Primum     19/06/2008 15:27
Michael Davies proves that the SSPX is a perfectly legal Society of Common Life for Clergy in the catholic Church. He demonstrates that the penalties announced by the Vatican in 1988 are null and void.
This is part of a debate given in 1995 or so, … [More]
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Ben Martin         17/07/2012 18:34
Greg, nice u know all that about Luther--do you think he would like the N.O. Mass too? For Luther had a problem with the Latin Mass. Maybe this would be a point that all could come together and unify and not divide each from other, but dialogue. Yes dialogue—talk and talk -- we all have so much more in common with each other now that our worships services is so similar. We can now have interfaith communion services and marriages.
I know the Lutherans hated the Latin Mass---but many in the last … [More]
Ben Martin         17/07/2012 18:06
You are right St Ben--keep up the great work
My apologizes
Holy Cannoli         17/07/2012 17:42
Benny wrote:
"I truly have given up on this site [], which gets more and more anti-Catholic by the day."
And yet, the contentious, insulting, perpetual whining neo-Catholic remains at Gloria.
I wonder why that is? [More]
Ben Martin         17/07/2012 17:32
Yep you are right--no differences in the Latin and N.O. Mass. All is ok. They are so similar and both provide the same fruit. Full steam ahead with the Spirit of Vatican II and the New Mass---the fruit is so wonderful to smell.
Go back to the N.O. Opium Den of Illusion--you buddies are calling you--they are having a pig roast.
Holy Cannoli         17/07/2012 17:20
Calling Benny a swine would be an insult to swine.
Ben Martin         17/07/2012 16:40
None of this addresses the problem with the N.O. Mass or the V2 problems---it is like a drop in a bucket and actually acts like an opium to those demanding the return and restoration of the Faith—keep them in check. The Great Latin Mass is put on equal status with that of the hobo orphan N.O. Mass---this radical Mass will be corrected in the next century by the Church or officially declared invalid, once the ship of modernist move on. Church has always corrected herself in the past in … [More]
Ben Martin         17/07/2012 16:39
St. Ben you give no proof that supports your claims--you only think a protestant services are Catholic because your local parish says it is. Good luck--it not worth me wasting my time--if this basic element does not make sense to you. That N.O. Mass and Latin Mass do not give the same fruit. What good is it for me to throw my pearls.
RomanCandle         16/07/2012 13:41
I do not believe in corporal punishment for children but do realise that a father can become so grieved by a child’s wilful and ongoing disobedience that that child must regrettably be taken to their bedroom for a sound spanking. A disobedient child that cannot be reasoned with can cause great disruption to a family. Whenever the Society of St Pius comes before me, I see disobedience dressed up in fine religious garb.
At the very heart of the rift between the Vatican and the Society of St Pius … [More]
tbswv         12/02/2012 09:21
Vatican II was a Pastoral Council and not a Dogmatic Council, therefore what you need to believe to be a Catholic are the dogma's defined in previous councils: Council of Trent, Vatican I. The very pope who called the Council Pope John XXIII never, never desired Vatican II Council to subvert the doctrines of previous councils. As a matter of fact he desired the mass to be said in Latin. These misconceptions that are floating around only hurt the Church. Marcel Lefevre only rejected the abuses … [More]
Herdewelle         11/02/2012 18:44
Oh wait... XD
Herdewelle         05/02/2012 17:16
We don't reject Vatican II.
woody437         05/10/2010 14:48
Michael proves nothing if you reject the Vatican 2 and the popes authority. Your outside the church
holyrope1         22/02/2010 19:32 the middle of this video, priest speaks of the SSPX
How Do You Respond To God In The Way You Live Your Life
Here is another novus ordo priest who interviews the Superior General, Bishop Felley of the SSPX.
Miss Maria         13/01/2010 14:51
@kfarley.....what a great response! Love it.
kfarley         13/01/2010 14:45
Bless you holyrope1 !
holyrope1         13/01/2010 14:33
kfarley         06/01/2010 23:12
This video is hillarious! Please everyone watch it! This is pro-SSPX and the speaker is making jokes and when the crowd applaudes he says, "you should not applaud somebody being schismatic!" It is like watching a pervese puppet show out of a childhood nightmare!
holyrope1         05/01/2010 15:37
REVTHREEVS21         26/11/2009 18:34
holyrope 1: Miss Maria: First of all, this is the position of the Church. When you have 1 priest such as I have, actually 2 but they don't work together, at the same mass. And a very full Church, because, they have brought numerous diocese together, because of the shortage of priests. There really is not much they can do. Because 1 priest cannot handle all the souls, that want the mass. I have no problem, with what Holyrope 1 is stressing. Holyrope 1 feels, as she expresses, its just because … [More]
holyrope1         26/11/2009 15:41
There are many people I've talked with regarding receiving in the hands. Many there are who do agree and say, "I would rather receive on the tongue, because I think it is more reverent and that's how we were taught for centuries. Reason why they'll still receive in their hands? Because they want to be like everyone else. So if someone jumps off the cliff, you going to join them?
If any person who feels and believes that God would want to be received on the tongue and by consecrated hands only,… [More]
Miss Maria         26/11/2009 13:21
I am a little torn on this one, when I go to Mass I am so involved in the fact that we are about to receive the Eucharist that I am not sitting there wondering who is going to administer it to me. Sure, I rather go to the priest and receive the Eucharist from him, but I just can't fill my mind with thoughts of doubt and wonder if lay persons can or should administer while my mind and soul is focused on Mass.
What is the official word from the Vatican in regards to lay persons administering … [More]
REVTHREEVS21         26/11/2009 11:04
Holyrope 1: I recieve the Eucharist, from unconsecrated hands, only when absolutly necessary. The Lord has told me, he can concecrate the Host from the floor, if he wants to. You have to be careful Holyrope 1 not to fall into the trap Martin Luther fell into. And that was he didn't like one thing, so he threw the baby out with the bathwater! We have to remember Holyrope 1, in the history of our beloved Church, we have had many schizms, and the new mass, is just another one, that will be … [More]
woody437         25/11/2009 18:34
holyrope1         03/10/2009 22:48
REVTHREE.....You mean you would still take communion from UNCONSECRATED HANDS??? After what you wrote, it is somewhat bewildering why you would settle to go with a lay person, when you can receive from CONSECRATED HANDS. Doesn't matter where you sit, come now....The Eucharist was NEVER MEANT TO BE HANDLED BY LAY PEOPLE. There is nothing to fear in crossing into another line or walking around in order to receive from a priest. Did you check out the names/addresses I gave you with Latin Masses … [More]