SSPX in Schism? No. Michael Davies proves that the SSPX is a perfectly legal Society of Common Life for Clergy in the catholic Church. He demonstrates that the penalties announced by the Vatican in …More
SSPX in Schism? No.
Michael Davies proves that the SSPX is a perfectly legal Society of Common Life for Clergy in the catholic Church. He demonstrates that the penalties announced by the Vatican in 1988 are null and void.
This is part of a debate given in 1995 or so, with the the editor of "Fidelity" magazine, Dr. E.M. Jones. Davies wins hands down. His books are available from Angelus Press, and much is free on-line at www.sspxasia.com
When Davies died in 2004, then Cardinal Ratzinger praised his contribution to the history of the current crisis. Davies was the official biographer of the late Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.
Get the whole debate via "www.keepthefaith.org"
Michael Davies proves that the SSPX is a perfectly legal Society of Common Life for Clergy in the catholic Church. He demonstrates that the penalties announced by the Vatican in 1988 are null and void.
This is part of a debate given in 1995 or so, with the the editor of "Fidelity" magazine, Dr. E.M. Jones. Davies wins hands down. His books are available from Angelus Press, and much is free on-line at www.sspxasia.com
When Davies died in 2004, then Cardinal Ratzinger praised his contribution to the history of the current crisis. Davies was the official biographer of the late Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.
Get the whole debate via "www.keepthefaith.org"
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Greg,
That is all good in Theory and is how it should work—but if you look at the fruits of New Mass and V2 it does not work out that way in reality----why else the rotten fruit and great of Apostasy of the average Joe Catholic today and their hierarchy if these two animals are the same and both blessing of the Holy Ghost? Two style of worship---two style of belief. 
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Greg,
That is all good in Theory and is how it should work—but if you look at the fruits of New Mass and V2 it does not work out that way in reality----why else the rotten fruit and great of Apostasy of the average Joe Catholic today and their hierarchy if these two animals are the same and both blessing of the Holy Ghost? Two style of worship---two style of belief.
For centuries the Mass was guarded and protected from all new novelties and radical changes and had only one form---but made organic growth through time. The N.O. Mass has more similarities to the Anglican and many protestant worship services than it does to the Latin Mass. Why is that?
The N.O. Mass is like an orphan; who is it parents?—where did come from?—from Freemason and heretic-- Annibale Bugnini in his Frankenstein Laboratory—bringing pieces and parts of different Mass throughout the ages together, along with protestant forms of worship and beliefs: demolishing the Sacrifice emphasis of the Mass and highlighting the assemble of the people, the Priest as the President of the assembly, gather of people for Last Supper memorial service on a table, a clay cup and not a chalices, man centered worship service, secular music, women acting the place of priest, for years—changing the words of Christ—from many to all, communion in the hand, priest facing the people instead of God, --everything new but yet very similar to protestant worship service---why is that?. Is this what the martyr died for??
Why the 500 years of fighting NOT to go along with the Protestant Reformers on the Mass—but yet the New Mass has many of the elements that for 500 years Church has fought against and condemned--but yet one?? What make them one if they do not hold to same Catholic Faith?
This is an interesting read; Questioning The Validity.
www.the-pope.com/qtv.html
Greg----please show me a time in the Church when the Roman Latin Rite---every had two forms of the Mass that were universally promulgated---where is the precedence for this?
If there is two forms under one rite---why is there two forms of faith for these two Mass, if all are one?
Go to any local parish that does the N.O. Mass and compare the priest and faithful to those of the Latin Mass or those of the teaching of the Church over centuries. The Latin Mass group is in very much in in line with previous Church teachings---but the N.O. group---is not. They have open gay priest, clown Masses, liberal parishes, pro-gay marriage parishes, do not believe in the true presences, use birth control, believe in heresy, live together before marriage or let their kids, divorce and remarry, use different form, intent and matter for sacraments, believe in one’s personal conscience to triumphs rules of faith and papal teaching, do not go Mass on Sunday, work on Sunday, etc.---a whole different animal—but yet they are the same. Sounds like the heresy of Americanism. But how did they get this way??---but by the way you worship is the way you believe. Two different ways of worship and two different ways the people of each group believes.
By their fruit you shall know them.
That is all good in Theory and is how it should work—but if you look at the fruits of New Mass and V2 it does not work out that way in reality----why else the rotten fruit and great of Apostasy of the average Joe Catholic today and their hierarchy if these two animals are the same and both blessing of the Holy Ghost? Two style of worship---two style of belief.
For centuries the Mass was guarded and protected from all new novelties and radical changes and had only one form---but made organic growth through time. The N.O. Mass has more similarities to the Anglican and many protestant worship services than it does to the Latin Mass. Why is that?
The N.O. Mass is like an orphan; who is it parents?—where did come from?—from Freemason and heretic-- Annibale Bugnini in his Frankenstein Laboratory—bringing pieces and parts of different Mass throughout the ages together, along with protestant forms of worship and beliefs: demolishing the Sacrifice emphasis of the Mass and highlighting the assemble of the people, the Priest as the President of the assembly, gather of people for Last Supper memorial service on a table, a clay cup and not a chalices, man centered worship service, secular music, women acting the place of priest, for years—changing the words of Christ—from many to all, communion in the hand, priest facing the people instead of God, --everything new but yet very similar to protestant worship service---why is that?. Is this what the martyr died for??
Why the 500 years of fighting NOT to go along with the Protestant Reformers on the Mass—but yet the New Mass has many of the elements that for 500 years Church has fought against and condemned--but yet one?? What make them one if they do not hold to same Catholic Faith?
This is an interesting read; Questioning The Validity.
www.the-pope.com/qtv.html
Greg----please show me a time in the Church when the Roman Latin Rite---every had two forms of the Mass that were universally promulgated---where is the precedence for this?
If there is two forms under one rite---why is there two forms of faith for these two Mass, if all are one?
Go to any local parish that does the N.O. Mass and compare the priest and faithful to those of the Latin Mass or those of the teaching of the Church over centuries. The Latin Mass group is in very much in in line with previous Church teachings---but the N.O. group---is not. They have open gay priest, clown Masses, liberal parishes, pro-gay marriage parishes, do not believe in the true presences, use birth control, believe in heresy, live together before marriage or let their kids, divorce and remarry, use different form, intent and matter for sacraments, believe in one’s personal conscience to triumphs rules of faith and papal teaching, do not go Mass on Sunday, work on Sunday, etc.---a whole different animal—but yet they are the same. Sounds like the heresy of Americanism. But how did they get this way??---but by the way you worship is the way you believe. Two different ways of worship and two different ways the people of each group believes.
By their fruit you shall know them.