While Rome Burns, Pope And Bishops Attack The Latin Mass And Traditional Orders
by Fr. Peter Carota With so many serious problems in the world today, any sane person has to ask; “why are the powerful people in the Catholic Church trying to destroy traditional orders, priests and …More
by Fr. Peter Carota
With so many serious problems in the world today, any sane person has to ask;
“why are the powerful people in the Catholic Church trying to destroy traditional orders, priests and purposely stopping the offering of the Latin Mass?”
Let us go over some of the real problems they should be contending with right now.
China just said it could put the electric grid of the USA out of existence.
1. 13,000 Catholics and Christians recently killed by muslims in Nigeria.
The Ebola outbreak.
2. Catholics and other Christians being tortured and murdered in muslim countries. 3. Millions of babies being murdered in their mothers wombs. 4. Dangerous and powerful drug cartels moving from Mexico, to all over the world. 5. The Church mortally bleeding of her members to other religions and atheism. 6. ISIS promising to march into Rome and use St. Peter’s as a stable. 7. 35 million people are slaves. 8. Millions in forced work camps in China and North Korea. 9. Drug and alcohol abuse …More
With so many serious problems in the world today, any sane person has to ask;
“why are the powerful people in the Catholic Church trying to destroy traditional orders, priests and purposely stopping the offering of the Latin Mass?”
Let us go over some of the real problems they should be contending with right now.
China just said it could put the electric grid of the USA out of existence.
1. 13,000 Catholics and Christians recently killed by muslims in Nigeria.
The Ebola outbreak.
2. Catholics and other Christians being tortured and murdered in muslim countries. 3. Millions of babies being murdered in their mothers wombs. 4. Dangerous and powerful drug cartels moving from Mexico, to all over the world. 5. The Church mortally bleeding of her members to other religions and atheism. 6. ISIS promising to march into Rome and use St. Peter’s as a stable. 7. 35 million people are slaves. 8. Millions in forced work camps in China and North Korea. 9. Drug and alcohol abuse …More
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The Prophet of Oregon, me, would like to thank Fr. Carota for spelling out my prophecy. What am I talking about? As a graduate student just after Vat II, but before the fateful enactments were imposed, I attended a Summer language school at a Woman's Catholic College in Oregon. It got around that the church services were in Latin and, before one knew it, many non-Catholic students wanted the "Latin …More
The Prophet of Oregon, me, would like to thank Fr. Carota for spelling out my prophecy. What am I talking about? As a graduate student just after Vat II, but before the fateful enactments were imposed, I attended a Summer language school at a Woman's Catholic College in Oregon. It got around that the church services were in Latin and, before one knew it, many non-Catholic students wanted the "Latin"-experience. The nuns got wind of it all and had the mass carried out, but not in Latin, rather in a direct translation into English. A disappointment for the students, though for me a traumatic event. (I am sure that Pope Francis has just the right derogatory appellation for my psychology.) Why? I sensed that something radical and very alien was happening, something that portended deep, profound changes of the Holiness in Catholicism as mediated liturgically through the traditional Latin Mass. Something destructive was loose. Away from the old, onward to the new!
As the "fruits of Vat II" became evident, my ominous feeling in Oregon seemed to cristalize as an unwelcome and disturbing foreboding of a plethora of things coming to be. So in a moment of narcissistic humor I appointed myself to the rank of "the Prophet of Oregon". Voilà, c'est moi, le prophète! For a long time my "prophecy" consisted of a vague "feeling of coming losses", losses foreshadowing, though not detailing all the 18 points (and more) made by Fr. Carota. Fr. Carota has evinced a marvelous conceptual grasp of the overall picture and has separated out and listed various concretizations for consideration. I am very grateful for the organized overview. Alas, I feel my self-calling to Oregonian prophecy to be confirmed.
Fr. Carota offers various theories of explanation and allows us to choose. Well, I take them all, i.e., as manifestations of a shift from a vertical to a horizontal orientation in Catholicism. David P. Goldman, a Modern Orthodox Jew, asserted, after Pope Francis' visit of the Holy Lands, that Pope Francis seems more interested in saving the world than saving souls. This thesis stikes me as plausible. At any rate, in shifting to the horizontal from the vertical the post-Vat II Church seems to have pushed to the sidelines a sense of the Holy, the mysterium tremendum, so well manifested by the Latin Mass. (And it was this "pushing away" that I sensed as an inkling that Summer in Oregon.) I suggest taking a glance at Rudolf Otto's The Holy, a best seller in 1917. Otto was a Lutheran scholar who has written effectively a phemenology of the Holy and its traits -- traits now evaporating by prelate command, e.g., the surpression of the Franciscan Friars. If the horizontal is the goal, all which communicates the vertical, viz., transcendent becomes an intolerable danger, even in the form of a successful order's project. Thus the dissolution of the Friars becomes a plus and is logically derivative from the horizontal orientation. No surprises, just sorrow! If time and energy permit, I might try latter today to outline some fundamentals that enable an acceptance of all of Fr. Carota's suggestios as manifestation of a central telos now stalking the Church with fateful damage.
As the "fruits of Vat II" became evident, my ominous feeling in Oregon seemed to cristalize as an unwelcome and disturbing foreboding of a plethora of things coming to be. So in a moment of narcissistic humor I appointed myself to the rank of "the Prophet of Oregon". Voilà, c'est moi, le prophète! For a long time my "prophecy" consisted of a vague "feeling of coming losses", losses foreshadowing, though not detailing all the 18 points (and more) made by Fr. Carota. Fr. Carota has evinced a marvelous conceptual grasp of the overall picture and has separated out and listed various concretizations for consideration. I am very grateful for the organized overview. Alas, I feel my self-calling to Oregonian prophecy to be confirmed.
Fr. Carota offers various theories of explanation and allows us to choose. Well, I take them all, i.e., as manifestations of a shift from a vertical to a horizontal orientation in Catholicism. David P. Goldman, a Modern Orthodox Jew, asserted, after Pope Francis' visit of the Holy Lands, that Pope Francis seems more interested in saving the world than saving souls. This thesis stikes me as plausible. At any rate, in shifting to the horizontal from the vertical the post-Vat II Church seems to have pushed to the sidelines a sense of the Holy, the mysterium tremendum, so well manifested by the Latin Mass. (And it was this "pushing away" that I sensed as an inkling that Summer in Oregon.) I suggest taking a glance at Rudolf Otto's The Holy, a best seller in 1917. Otto was a Lutheran scholar who has written effectively a phemenology of the Holy and its traits -- traits now evaporating by prelate command, e.g., the surpression of the Franciscan Friars. If the horizontal is the goal, all which communicates the vertical, viz., transcendent becomes an intolerable danger, even in the form of a successful order's project. Thus the dissolution of the Friars becomes a plus and is logically derivative from the horizontal orientation. No surprises, just sorrow! If time and energy permit, I might try latter today to outline some fundamentals that enable an acceptance of all of Fr. Carota's suggestios as manifestation of a central telos now stalking the Church with fateful damage.