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Judgment against Austrian Pro-Lifers

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On April 4, the single judge Erik Nauta, of the regional court of Graz, sentenced four pro-lifers to high penalties for stalking. They are charged with having repeatedly stalked the Graz-based aborti…More
On April 4, the single judge Erik Nauta, of the regional court of Graz, sentenced four pro-lifers to high penalties for stalking.

They are charged with having repeatedly stalked the Graz-based abortionist, Johannes Hanfstingl.

Judge Nauta also convicted the Austrian director of the pro-life organization Human Life International, Dietmar Fischer, for stalking in Graz – although the latter works in Vienna not Graz. His fine is 180 daily rates of 40 euros each totaling 7.200 euros. ($10,000.00 US Dollars)

Furthermore, the two activists who offered help on the sidewalks and one woman who worked as a consultant were sentenced to fines between 450 and 840 euros. ($600.00 - $1200.00 USD)

Gloria.tv is in possession of the contradictory reasons given for the judgment as well as the appeal made against the unjust verdict.

Nauta claims that the accused had deliberately planned to stalk the abortionist.

The pro-lifers responded by saying that in Graz – as in many other places around the world – they were trying to assist expectant mothers who were ready to abort their unborn babies.

Two pro-lifers were alleged to have handed the mothers brochures, flyers and plastic embryos with the aim of having the women “inform him [the abortionist] of these occurrences” – as the judgment repeats.

Then, judge Nauta claims that the pro-lifers had used the informative material in order to “get in contact with Dr. Hanfstingl”.

The alleged victim of the stalking responded to the question of whether the mothers wanted to bring him any message, “I don't think so, I think that the patients were primarily supposed to get information.”

Without exception, the eight witnesses for the prosecution all testified in favor of the pro-lifers. In addition, they all stated that they had not been bothered or harassed in any form whatsoever.

At court, they testified that they had “not been bothered” by the pro-lifers. Seven of the eight witnesses had never even been addressed by the pro-lifers. Only one of them received informative material.

Despite these testimonies, judge Nauta explains, in the reasons for his judgment, that the pro-lifers had sought to contact “all patients” of the abortionist.

The most bizzare of all the allegations is the stalking verdict against the Vienna-based director of Human Life International, Dietmar Fischer.

During the past years he rarely ever was to Graz and never worked in front of the baby-killing clinic of Hanfstingl.

In the case of Dietmar Fischer too, judge Nauta does sloppy work. For example, the judgment gives a wrong address for Fischer. Additionally, at one point instead of “Dietmar Fischer”, the judge calls him “Heinz Fischer” which is the name of the president of Austria.

The judge also considered the monthly prayer rallies, that were permitted by the police, as part of the stalking activities. During these rallies, 60 to 100 people legally walk through the city center of Graz.

For the judge, these legal processions indicate the intention of the accused to stalk the abortionist.

Yet, these rallies always take place on Saturdays and the abortionist does not work on Saturdays.
ACLumsden
Hi! I have listened to this broadcast, and yes, having considered the evidence, I think the judgement wrong. However, on the other hand, stalking anyone is quite irregular indeed; stalkers in any circumstance ought not to be treated well because I would say they are harassing their "prey".

Consider the situation from the other point of view, i.e. of pure law: regardless of reason, e.…More
Hi! I have listened to this broadcast, and yes, having considered the evidence, I think the judgement wrong. However, on the other hand, stalking anyone is quite irregular indeed; stalkers in any circumstance ought not to be treated well because I would say they are harassing their "prey".

Consider the situation from the other point of view, i.e. of pure law: regardless of reason, e.g. love, hate, mental illness, stalking of a citizen leads to all sorts of invasion of privacy, harassment, etc.

On the other hand, the abortionist doctors need to know that what they are doing is indeed wrong and is no less than murder. Therefore, what is one to do? The peaceful protesting within the confines of the law just might be the answer..... (?)

Siobhan
Email to Beatrix Karl sent, with the help of your details. Thanks for informing us of this - I hope the same as RevSpitz. Please God, guide and direct all thing to Your good purposes.
RevSpitz
Thank you for sending me the email. I will write Beatrix Karl: post@bmj.gv.at as you requested. I pray these innocent pro-lifers are vindicated and this evil judge will turn from his sins and accept Jesus Christ.
culturaldissident
The persecutions are well under way! Seek not the things of this world but focus on working out your salvation in fear and trembling. Ready your soul and the souls of those in your charge that you may stand upright on that great day!
AK
Peace! Good news when peaceful pro-life protesters are being subject to persecution. Sounds to me that the judge is not pro-life, hence the costly verdict despite the evidence for those keeping a regular peaceful protest. Possibly grounds for a counter-suit for harassment and violation of civil rights to peacefully protest an grievous injustice (unborn death penalty). Stalking has a broad …More
Peace! Good news when peaceful pro-life protesters are being subject to persecution. Sounds to me that the judge is not pro-life, hence the costly verdict despite the evidence for those keeping a regular peaceful protest. Possibly grounds for a counter-suit for harassment and violation of civil rights to peacefully protest an grievous injustice (unborn death penalty). Stalking has a broad definition - commonly used to refer to unwanted, obsessive attention by individuals (and sometimes groups of people) to others. In our country, we're required to stay at a goodly distance to lessen any feeling of being threatened by those entering clinics and they're at liberty to approach for information or not.
Eva
Send an English protest note to the Austrian Justice minster Beatrix Karl: post@bmj.gv.at
holyrope 3
May heaven Bless these pro-lifers...and may babies be saved through their intercession.

Like your necklace/medal of the Our Lady with St. John at the foot of the Cross...was surprised to see it! I use to give them out to those who wanted one. They are beautiful!
amiedetherese
A culture of death reigns in Austria, let us pray for these pro-lifers. May God bless them!
soundingjoy
Pray for the unborn that are aborted, for the first Face they see, is our Lord Jesus, bearing them in His arms, these are of the kingdom of heaven.
Thank and bless you for the post.
EBMANALANG
Prolifers sometimes need to suffer sweet persecution in the name of the unborn and our faith.Somebody must take Henry Kissinger to an International Court for trial being the Godfather of NSSM 200 and 201,the advocate low intensity conflict on mothers wombs..Eric Manalang Prolife Philippines
Rockford pro-life
Sad, God bless these pro-lifers.
louella
Austria is really in the grip of Satan. It seems to hate even its own children. There is no justice here.