Strange Logic: Communion in the Hand Is Only Sinful If Forbidden by Vatican - Bishop Schneider

Communion in the hand is "not sinful" in itself, because the Church "allows" it, Bishop Schneider claimed during a Q&A session at the Rome Life Forum (May 22). He only called it "less expressive …
Rafał_Ovile
The spreading of Communion on the hand throughout the Church is due to growing protestantization of Roman - Catholic Church and thereby false ecclesiology, with new liturgy, implemented after last VII 'Council' based on decentralization of the Church. The Petrine Primate was weakened by growing influence of collegial bodies (national conferences) to which Vatican passed more power over pastoral …More
The spreading of Communion on the hand throughout the Church is due to growing protestantization of Roman - Catholic Church and thereby false ecclesiology, with new liturgy, implemented after last VII 'Council' based on decentralization of the Church. The Petrine Primate was weakened by growing influence of collegial bodies (national conferences) to which Vatican passed more power over pastoral practice which had disastrous implications on matters of Catholic doctrine. Many Bishop conferences have been allowed to vote and demand practices contradictory to the Church normative derived from doctrine, including dogmatic teaching. Changes were made to i.e. normative distribution of Communion kneeling and on the tongue which is logical and practical consequence of Eucharistic Doctrine on the Real Presence formulated in five canons in the Council of Trent.

"During the 1500's, a form of Christianity developed that was consciously not Roman Catholic. This form of Christianity withdrew six whole nations from the Catholic Church and has determined the culture of most of North America, including the United States. Moreover, this form of Christianity, on principle, denies that Christ, at the Last Supper, instituted the priesthood and empowered ordained priests to offer the Sacrifice of the Mass - at which bread and wine are changed into the living Flesh and Blood of Christ. Consequently, it is imperative to know what the Catholic Church taught as infallible doctrine during this most divisive era of Christian history. The main source of information is found in the Council of Trent, which met for eighteen years from 1545 to 1563. Council called to defend and declare as defined doctrine on the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. There are five canons specifically defining the Catholic Church's faith in the Real Presence.

In the present dispute over the form to receive Holy Communion there are differences in interpretation of the order of doctrine and pastoral practice between Catholics and modernists/ apostates occupying Catholic Church. The following quote deepens knowledge of the deepening chaos after Vatican II on this topic.

"... many innovations that seemingly give them an infallible and unchanging character, and consequently create contradictions in the area of faith and reason. Now a simple Declaration establishes the fundamental principle of the new ecclesiology, based on the whims of exuberant barbarians who use praxis to circumvent doctrine. But Catholic doctrine and discipline are a prerequisite for an authentic encounter with Christ. Again, it should be remembered that the (pastoral) practice (i.e. receiving Holy Communion) should be characterized by the correct order resulting from the doctrine (Five dogmatized Canons) , and therefore only the proper practice (normative kneeling and on the tongue) takes into account the correct doctrine. Negating this order inevitably leads to the statement that a new false doctrine can be worked out in new pastoral practice."
Claudius Cartapus
For those who are allergic to Maria Simma, do not read this… but the lighting given here is very interesting. Translated from the french page: Maria Simma - Revelations of Souls in Purgatory. (Chapter: The Bishops and the Pope). The interresting text here (Translated):
Maria, have bishops ever appeared to you?

Oh! Yes, many. An Italian and an American, whose names I could not find, appeared to …
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For those who are allergic to Maria Simma, do not read this… but the lighting given here is very interesting. Translated from the french page: Maria Simma - Revelations of Souls in Purgatory. (Chapter: The Bishops and the Pope). The interresting text here (Translated):
Maria, have bishops ever appeared to you?

Oh! Yes, many. An Italian and an American, whose names I could not find, appeared to me. And a soul told me about a German cardinal who lived here very close to our home. The German and Italian bishop must remain in Purgatory until the day when communion in the hand is prohibited in their diocese, the American will remain there until it is prohibited in all the United States and that communion on the language is restored. I then requested the names of the other two, but I did not receive a response.


With regard to the German cardinal, I learned from Father Matt that, on his deathbed, he had said that he had made a serious mistake in promoting communion in the hand. As often happens, these facts are never made public, and the damage was done.

We can alleviate their Purgatory, but they cannot be delivered from it.

Among the cardinals and bishops who have, you say, succeeded in obtaining communion in the hand from the Pope, are some now in Hell?

Yes, some are there; but I won't say they got lost just because of it. I know it was mixed with other things that, combined with that, were the cause. But I cannot say that this act alone caused the loss of their soul.

You talked about Freemasons in the Vatican. Among the many cardinals who surround the Pope, how many are Freemasons?


I do not know the exact number, but many were when John Paul II became Pope. Since then, the Holy Father has appointed many new cardinals, who were certainly not Freemasons, so that they are fewer today; but there are still some, and very close to the Holy Father.
adeste fideles
Signorelli,1512
eticacasanova
Well, Christ gave communion in the hand, so... Of course it is not sinful in itself. You have to know the proper distinctions: there are rules that come from the nature of things directly, others are conclusions and, still, there are others that are determinations of the authority. These last ones can be demanded by the institution interested, I mean, its nature, of by order in general, etc. …More
Well, Christ gave communion in the hand, so... Of course it is not sinful in itself. You have to know the proper distinctions: there are rules that come from the nature of things directly, others are conclusions and, still, there are others that are determinations of the authority. These last ones can be demanded by the institution interested, I mean, its nature, of by order in general, etc. Communion in the hand is permisible, though there are important reasons of reverence and "safety" (of the Sacramento itself) that advice not to do that. But you can't tell a person that receives communion in the hand, when allowed by the competent authority, that they are sinning, because they're not. So, there you go: you have to go back to communion in the tongue, communion in the hand is not sinful in itself and its not recommendable...
Rafał_Ovile
eticacasanova did Christ - God give Communion to consecrated or laymen at the Last Supper Mass? And only to men or both genders?
eticacasanova
At Emaus, He did, for sure... And, in the first century, for sure, they did that
laurelmarycecilia
I'm as old as dirt and becoming weary, many times have thought: How long O Lord ! how long ! (Psalm 13)

But, now I am beyond the impatient and merely weary state and am thinking: And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened. (Mt24:22)
De Profundis
First communion at ICKSP Brussels
Eva
If the Vatican allows adultery, then it is not sinful (Amoris Laetitia).
eticacasanova
Not the same, you have to do the propper distinctions