You both are wrong and sound like the idiots. What Bkuhl is trying to say is the law will recognize a pregnant women’s fetus as an individual human being, whether the mother is early or full term, when prosecuting someone for the murder of a pregnant women. Thus charging them with a double murder. But when it comes to abortions they completely contradict themselves, changing how or when they consider the fetus to be a child. We live in a country that offers and allows us to use many different forms of contraception. There’s no excuse.