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Lionel L. Andrades
TRIDENTINE RITE MASS UN-AVAILABLE EVEN IN THE USA
The Latin Mass is available in Rome but not the Tridentine Rite Mass.That has been effectivly prohibited by the contemporary magisterium and the political Left.It is not there even at the SSPX chapel.
The Latin Mass is available in Rome but not the Tridentine Rite Mass.That has been effectivly prohibited by the contemporary magisterium and the …More
TRIDENTINE RITE MASS UN-AVAILABLE EVEN IN THE USA

The Latin Mass is available in Rome but not the Tridentine Rite Mass.That has been effectivly prohibited by the contemporary magisterium and the political Left.It is not there even at the SSPX chapel.

The Latin Mass is available in Rome but not the Tridentine Rite Mass.That has been effectivly prohibited by the contemporary magisterium and the political Left.It is not there even at the SSPX chapel.
The Tridentine Latin Mass has the ecclesiology of the old pre Council of Trent Mass while the Latin Mass today is offered with the New Theology.
At the centre of the Tridentine Rite Mass ecclesiology was the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( EENS Feeneyite).While at the centre of the Latin, Italian or English Mass is the ecclesiology of EENS Cushingite.It is not the original dogma.

When the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary attend the Latin Mass they affirm EENS ( Feeneyite) but they also support Vatican Council II ( Cushingite).This is a negation of the old ecclesiology( EENS Feeneyite).It is a rupture with the ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass offered over the centuries.
Similarly for the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter ( FSSP) and the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest (ICKSP),Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) is a rupture with the old ecclesiology of EENS, which does not mention any exceptions.
Even the SSPX offers the Latin Mass and not the Tridentine Rite Mass since their ecclesiology considers hypothetical cases as being non hypothetical. Then then conclude that this is an explicit exception to the old ecclesiology, to EENS ( Feeneyite).So they proclaim a Nicene Creed, Vatican Council II,EENS and Letter of the Holy Office Cushingite.This is a doctrinal mess. It is far from the theology of the Tridentine Rite Mass.
When they offer Holy Mass the vestments and liturgical rituals are those of the Tridentine Rite Mass but the ecclesiology, is the general innovation accepted by liberals and heretics.
Perhaps there could be traditionalist priests who subjectively, in secret, offer the Tridentine Rite Mass with the old ecclesiology.However it is secret. He does not express these doctrines during the homily.In general it is assumed it is the New Theology which is there in his mind.

Recently Archbishop Guido Pozzo referred to accepting Dominus Iesus, which says there is no salvific way independent of Christ.Yes - but he means that there is salvation outside the Church. So if there is salvation outside the Church then a person can be saved without being a member of the Catholic Church.So outside the Church there is salvation.This is the New Theology. It is not the theology of the Tridentine Rite Mass.

Dominus Iesus was Cushingite since Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was a Cushingite.It is Christocentric and not ecclesiocentric. There is no traditional exclusivist ecclesiology.
Officially the exclusivist ecclesiology is rejected by Pope Benedict XVI and the Internatonal Theological Commission.Hypothetical cases are assumed to benot hypothetical.The baptism of desire is not hypothetical.There explicit exceptions to the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.The Tridentine Rite Mass ecclesiology has exceptions.
But all is not lost.
In future we can still have a priest or lay writer interpret Vatican Council II ( LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc) with hypothetical cases being hypothetical and not explicit in our reality.So in Vatican Council II there would be no explicit examples of salvation outside the Church. There is no known salvation outside the Church.There is no known Christian, for example, who is saved outside the Church.There is no Anonymous Christian in reality.And for there to be an exception to EENS ( Feeneyite) there must be an exception in reality(2016).
This puts Fr. Karl Rahner's new theology aside when interpreting Vatican Council II.
However no one as yet has said this in public.Archbishop Pozzo is still selling the New Theology.
They are all offering the Latin Mass with the Rahner-Ratzinger new theology.
For any of them to speak this truth in public, it seems, as if they would have to be 'outside the system'.For many years I slept at night alongside the front door of a Church in central Rome.Presently I have a place to stay.However in this way I had the freedom to write. More important for me, I could clear up this whole issue in mind.Writing on this blog helped.At least for me, on a personal level the work is finished.The loose ends have been tied up. It's clear now.
In future there can be a Tridentine Mass Rite Mass available in Rome.We have found the missing link.We now know what caused the problem.
-Lionel Andrades

Factual mistakes in Vatican Council II are not noted on the SSPX website

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Lionel L. Andrades
SSPX AGREES WITH ME
Today morning (SUNDAY, AUGUST 28, 2016)
I went to the SSPX chapel in Rome. The prior and the regular priests were not there.There was a new priest not from Albano who offered Holy Mass.Last week Fr. Aldo Rossi offered the Mass and he had no comment on my report saying that the SSPX has changed Catholic dogmas and doctrine.It was sent to him and others in Italian and English.It …More
SSPX AGREES WITH ME

Today morning (SUNDAY, AUGUST 28, 2016)
I went to the SSPX chapel in Rome. The prior and the regular priests were not there.There was a new priest not from Albano who offered Holy Mass.Last week Fr. Aldo Rossi offered the Mass and he had no comment on my report saying that the SSPX has changed Catholic dogmas and doctrine.It was sent to him and others in Italian and English.It could also be read on the media.
Last Sunday I wrote that I met Fr. Rossi, the SSPX Prior at Albano and he had nothing to say. It's now some three years and even the District Superior, Fr. PierPaolo Petrucci does not want to respond to this issue.Last week I sent them the follow up reports on this blog.
Basically what I have been saying is that :
1) the SSPX and their lay supporters ( Lake GardaStatement signatories) assume hypothetical cases are not hypothetical.Then they interpret Vatican Council II with this irrationality to reach a non traditional conclusion.
2) I assume hypothetical cases are hypothetical and interpret Vatican Council II with this rationality and so reach a traditional conclusion.
Regarding Point One the SSPX will not admit their error and state that they were wrong.
Regarding Point Two the SSPX will not correct me and show me how I am wrong and neither will they admit that I am correct.

If they admit that I am correct and they were wrong then it means that all their theories about Vatican Council II over the last 50 years were wrong.Archbishop Lefebvre along with Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger made an objective mistake.The baptism of desire is a hypothetical case.It is not an objectively known case so it was not relevant to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).The magisterium made a mistake on ' a faith' issue.The SSPX has been supporting the heresy.
Fr. Pierpaulo Petrucci at a conference in Rimini made an objective mistake when he cited a reference from Vatican Council II, which for him contradicted the dogma EENS ( Feeneyite).
Similarly Bishop Bernard Fellay made the same mistake in a Letter to Friends and Benefactors:It can still be read on line.

I have mentioned this so many times. Why do they not just come out and say,"We were wrong all these years". Why does Chris Ferrara, John Vennari, Michael Matt, John Salza and the others simply say that their interpretation of Vatican Council II is 'now obsolete'.Since their premise and conclusion were wrong.
Once they admit this they are in a position to ask Rome to come back to the Faith.
Ask Rome to interpret Vatican Council II as I do. Or ask Rome to comment on my interpretation of Vatican Council II.

Instead Don Aldo Rossi didn't show up today and if he did he probably would say nothing, out of obedience to Fr. Peirpaolo Petrucci or who knows who.
I know that the SSPX priests agree with me personally.The last three years at their chapel, whenever I go there, they have told me that there are no known cases of the baptism of desire in the present times. Nothing spectacular.This is common sense."They are invisible cases. This is something obvious", said Fr. Don Rossi.
So they agree that invisible cases cannot be exceptions or relevant to EENS Feeneyite.But how can they admit that Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops made a mistake ?
So the District Superior is saying nothing.Neither is there any written apologetics refuting me in general or point by point.

If in their defense they would say that they are following the contemporary magisterium,I would agree with them and point out that the magisterium is also making a factual error.We cannot physically see people saved in Heaven with the baptism of desire and then assume that these cases are explicit exceptions on earth in 2016 to all needing faith and baptism for salvation; all needing to be formal and visible members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.
Even the Auxiliary Bishops in Rome know that the Vatican Curia has made a mistake.They will not comment.I have spoken to officials at the Rome Vicariate's Departments for Ecumenism, Inter-Religious Dilague and Mission.The religious there are perturbed on seeing me and knowing what I have to say.
Bishop Williamson has formed a new traditionalist organisation to accommodate all those who do not want talks with Rome until Rome comes back to the Faith. Bishop Williamson does not realize that he also interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational premise and conclusion as does Rome and Bishop Fellay.All sides are so fixed in their false doctrinal position.It is as if it is their political position and they cannot budge.Even the traditionalists the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary are being prudent.They will not comment.
-Lionel Andrades
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