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Francis: Christian and Muslims believe in the same God

On the eve of his visit to Morocco (March 30-31), Pope Francis said in a video message on VaticanNews.va that “as Christians and Muslims we believe in God, the Creator and Merciful”.

He added that this God created men and women so that they might live as brothers and sisters, “respecting each other’s diversity and helping each other in their needs.”

This message repeats Francis heretical
Abu Dhabi declaration according to which the diversity of religions that contradict each other and religions which deny the Trinity and Incarnation are willed by God.

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Jesus said in St. John 14:6 "I am the way and the truth and the life. NO ONE comes to the Father except through me. This Pope is off his rocker and needs to resign!
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NB. 1076 AD Pope St Gregory VII writing to King Anzir of Mauritania: "we believe and confess one God although in different ways. Accordingly, belief in almighty God, compassionate and merciful, is substantially different from the God if the bible and the doctrine of Christ.
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The present pontiff needs to read St John Damascene who understood the absurdities of the beliefs of the Ishmaelites (Muslims) in the seventh century when they conquered Syria, Palestine and Egypt. St John was the Doctor of the Church, the First Apologist to Muslims. His Catechesis and Theological treatises served to PROSELYTISE Muslims and shore up orthodox Catholic belief.
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This needs to stop, the lay people need to speak up and denounce the pope....He is not infallible and needs to be seriously corrected. i can assure you that a large portion of the Islamic world are 100 times more outraged about this than Traditional Catholics are. Pope is in the danger zone with this because Muslims already hate him and his life may be indanger...pray for Pope Francis, like you …More
This needs to stop, the lay people need to speak up and denounce the pope....He is not infallible and needs to be seriously corrected. i can assure you that a large portion of the Islamic world are 100 times more outraged about this than Traditional Catholics are. Pope is in the danger zone with this because Muslims already hate him and his life may be indanger...pray for Pope Francis, like you would for a family member who has fallen away...
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The overwhelming majority of Muslims who become Christians testify most assuredly that they worshipped a false god under islam.
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Do they believe The Father the Son and the Holly Spirit as one God in three ? Do they believe Jesus Christ is Lord that He died for us sinners and rose from the dead on the third day ? and He is seated at right hand of the Father ,that He started His church ,The [CATHOLIC CHURCH ]and nobody goes to the Father except by Him because he is The Way the Truth And Life
Pope Francis have you asked them…More
Do they believe The Father the Son and the Holly Spirit as one God in three ? Do they believe Jesus Christ is Lord that He died for us sinners and rose from the dead on the third day ? and He is seated at right hand of the Father ,that He started His church ,The [CATHOLIC CHURCH ]and nobody goes to the Father except by Him because he is The Way the Truth And Life
Pope Francis have you asked them these questions ? Did You ,?you Should have
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Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? Muslims say no. Allah is no God. Mohammed is no prophet.
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First: The Holy Father Pope Francis is our Only Pope. He is the true Pope and ........... he is truly a heretic.
Most Heretical POPES and Moooslimes believe that we have the same god.. Ok well maybe the POPE..... the rest of us believe in GOD! Jesus his son and the whole creed.
Remember when it was a sin to attend a protestant service?
We get the priests and Pope we deserve.
Hello Jim, are you seeing well? And when was the last time you visited an eye doctor?
Lost hopes.... Unfortunately
Hope is prayer for pope Benedict XVI as Francis has asked on February 20: "Pray for me and for my ministry — and also for Pope Benedict (XVI)" - said Francis
[w2.vatican.va/…/papa-francesco_…}
“A believer, even without theological competence, can and even must resist, by virtue of the sensus fidei, his or her bishop if the latter preaches heterodoxy.” —International Theological Commission, 2014
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eticacasanova your judgment ["Of course, muslims, jews and the greek Philosophers, among others, believe in the One God."] is gravis haeresis (gravely heretical). Your basic premise lacks distinction between Trinitarian monotheism and anti-Trinitarian monotheism. For i.e. present pope Benedict XVI makes this clear distinction of Christian God and other gods. Whereas brotherhood is objectively "…More
eticacasanova your judgment ["Of course, muslims, jews and the greek Philosophers, among others, believe in the One God."] is gravis haeresis (gravely heretical). Your basic premise lacks distinction between Trinitarian monotheism and anti-Trinitarian monotheism. For i.e. present pope Benedict XVI makes this clear distinction of Christian God and other gods. Whereas brotherhood is objectively "illuminated in the Mystery of the Trinity" in contrary to other violent monotheism (islam & judaism). "Theology, in fruitful dialogue with philosophy, can help believers to become aware of and to testify that trinitarian monotheism shows us the true Face of God, and that this monotheism does not generate violence but is a force of personal and universal peace." (pp BXVI) Therefore refute your grave error professed publicly. Otherwise you will bear all consequences before only One and true Almighty Triune God - merciful and just.
If that's so, Saint Paul and Saint Thomas are a couple of heretics too
Ignorance is "free", they day mockingly
Since when are you Saint Paul and Saint Thomas?
They say, in the texts I copied beliw in my post read it in full[], that God is known by reason alone; but that some atributes are only known by Faith: the Trinity, the Encarnation. Therefore, according to them, you can know God and ignore or even reject His Trinitarian nature. So, there you go, Saint Paul -and, then, God- and Saint Thomas are, as they say in Spanish, par de herejes, a couple (…More
They say, in the texts I copied beliw in my post read it in full[], that God is known by reason alone; but that some atributes are only known by Faith: the Trinity, the Encarnation. Therefore, according to them, you can know God and ignore or even reject His Trinitarian nature. So, there you go, Saint Paul -and, then, God- and Saint Thomas are, as they say in Spanish, par de herejes, a couple (or a trio, counting the Holy Spirit) of heretics, like me...
1. Cite immediately text where the above mentioned Saints made identical to your heretical judgement: ""Of course, muslims, jews and the greek Philosophers, among others, believe in the One God."
2. Pope Benedict XVI cited above clearly contradicts such judgement distinguishing monotheism as such. Also Church teaching contradicts your anti-Trinitarian heretical judgement.
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1st Epistle of Saint John [2, 22-23]:
"Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father. He that confesseth the Son, hath the Father also."
Islam is a form of the ancient arianism supported by a false revelation of Muhammad. The Roman clergy, through the acceptance of …More
1st Epistle of Saint John [2, 22-23]:
"Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father. He that confesseth the Son, hath the Father also."
Islam is a form of the ancient arianism supported by a false revelation of Muhammad. The Roman clergy, through the acceptance of islam, converts to the arian confession.
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What absolute balderdash. Islam vehemently rejects our trinitarian God as blasphemy and does not accept Jesus as the unique son of God and Divine Saviour. Muslims don’t even believe he was actually crucified, much less redeemed us by his sufferings. This is heretical irenicism at its worst. The inverted miracle is that so many have not yet seen through the great imposture represented by this …More
What absolute balderdash. Islam vehemently rejects our trinitarian God as blasphemy and does not accept Jesus as the unique son of God and Divine Saviour. Muslims don’t even believe he was actually crucified, much less redeemed us by his sufferings. This is heretical irenicism at its worst. The inverted miracle is that so many have not yet seen through the great imposture represented by this sinister personage.
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It is obviously NOT the same God, since Christianity has been taught from the begining, that God sent His only begotten Son, to die on a Cross to save us from our sins. (He is called in John 1 "The Incarnate Word made Flesh" He is a Divine Being who is found in various places throughout the Tanakh ( Old Testament) and the ancient Aramaic Targums( see link below)

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It is obviously NOT the same God, since Christianity has been taught from the begining, that God sent His only begotten Son, to die on a Cross to save us from our sins. (He is called in John 1 "The Incarnate Word made Flesh" He is a Divine Being who is found in various places throughout the Tanakh ( Old Testament) and the ancient Aramaic Targums( see link below)

The Muslims have another being they have been introduced to - called"Allah, "whom can be found being mentioned at some juncture in one of the writings of the Jewish Apocrypha. Allah is not termed "God" in Hebrew Apocryphal Scriptures, he is referred to once somewhere (if I can find the link I'll post) as having been a demonic spirit linked with sorcery and occultist practices.
View Sam Shamoun and David Woods youtube videos - they are fully informed as to the huge differences between "Allah" and Yahweh. In Islam Allah terms himself "The Great Deceiver" To say he is the same God as ours would be blasphemy since there is only perfection, innocence and purity in Our Lord Jesus Christ whom revealed to us the contrary to what "Allah" stated

"I AM The Way, The TRUTH and the Life! There is NO WAY unto the Father apart from through Me!" Whereas Allah says of himself "I am The Great Deceiver" There is never anything but TRUTH in Yahweh!

If Jorge Bergoglio tells us publicly, that he believes "Allah" to be the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, he is foolish blasphemer! Clearly not preaching sound doctrine, ie a heretic who is likely to be thrown into Hell.
Seriously people! With such an obvious apostate leading the Church, we should be doing all we can to throw him out. Like King Solomon, he is allowing false worship to become equated with Roman Catholicism, not only that, he is guilty of "dissolving Christ" St John said

"And every spirit that dissolves Jesus, is not of God: and this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh, and he is now already in the world."
[ 1 John 4: 3 ]

Keep your Allah - BerGOGlio - we've got Jesus. The Incarnate Word

THE TRUE REALITY OF "JESUS THE WORD"

oneinmessiah.net/TargumMemraTheWordOfGod.htm

www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-g…
www.layevangelism.com/qreference/chapter10e.htm
juchre.org/articles/word.htm
juchre.org/targums/comp/gen01.htm
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Say thanks to the LUCIFERIAN CONFUSION OF PAPA BERGOGLIO. NICE JOB FRANCIS.!
Novus Ordo Watch commented that Bergoglio is Worried about spreading germs but not about spreading heresy.
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@paul grech, and all the rest of you, very respectable people: Of course, muslims, jews and the greek Philosophers, among others, believe in the One God. God can be known by reason (vid. CG. I,3,2; Rom. I,20, Sap. 13,1 y ff.). But some of His attributes are only known in this life by Revelation. So, they know God, but not those "aspects" that are beyond the power of natural reason, that need …More
@paul grech, and all the rest of you, very respectable people: Of course, muslims, jews and the greek Philosophers, among others, believe in the One God. God can be known by reason (vid. CG. I,3,2; Rom. I,20, Sap. 13,1 y ff.). But some of His attributes are only known in this life by Revelation. So, they know God, but not those "aspects" that are beyond the power of natural reason, that need the action of God Himself, Who is the only one that can reveal His intimate Life. I copy below the original texts, so you can check them out and see the truth about the matter. The problem is not that people can know God; it is indiferentism, because Christ established one Church, salvation is only by grace, Christ is God encarnate that died for our sins and, resurrecting, gave us Life, He is the only Way and God gave us the full revelation of His Being and His life and His Love, by Jesus. That's the real problem: islam and all the other religions aren't the way to Salvation and don't give us grace and justification...

"There is a twofold mode of truth in what we profess about God. Some truths about God exceed all the ability of the human reason. Such is the truth that God is triune. But there are some truths which the natural reason also is able to reach. Such are that God exists, that He is one, and the like. In fact, such truths about God have been proved demonstratively by the philosophers, guided by the light of the natural reason" (Contra Gentiles, I,3,2).

"since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse" (Romans, 1,20).

Foolish by nature were all who were in ignorance of God, and who from the good things seen did not succeed in knowing the one who is, and from studying the works did not discern the artisan (Wisdom, 13,1-2).
@Rafa Orville, it's here, read the whole thing
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As Muslims do not believe in a Trinitarian God we do not believe in the same God. Obviously Bergoglio is deliberately disseminating error to continue to cause confusioin.
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Erring is human element. However, if pertinacious and parallel with others being silently complicit in error at top hierarchy then it is grave diabolic delusion.
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This Pope teaches error.
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Just say it: Heretic!
One who kills infidels and one who loves them. Wonder which is which??
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Wow! I never knew that. So the muslins believe in Jesus Christ. But why do they hate the cross and murder Christians?
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