Monday, August 21, 2017

Formal correction of Cardinal Raymond Burke needed : not reported by media

It has been repeatedly pointed out that the two popes and 'the dubbia cardinals' are interpreting the Nicene Creed, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS),Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with an irrational premise to produce a conclusion which is a rupture with Tradition. 1
There has been no denial from any of them.
The Rector of the Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit 

Msgr.Todd J. Lajiness agrees that there are no known cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) in 2017.This is common sense.The Rector and professors of theology and philosophy at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit agree here too.For professors Ralph Martin, Robert Fastiggi and Phillp Blosser references to BOD, BOB and I.I are references to hypothetical cases, theoretical possibilities known only to God.

So LG 16, LG 8, LG 14,AG 11, AG 7, NA 2, GS 22,UR 3  2 could not refer to known cases of particular people, saved outside the Church, present or past.So they are not exceptions to the dogma EENS.

This is also the message of Archbishop Thomas E. Gullickson, Fr. Stefano Visintin osb and the apologist John Martignoni.
They are saying that in principle these cases of invisible people cannot be visible exceptions to the de fide teaching on all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.
LG 16,LG 8, UR 3 etc do not contradict EENS as it was known to St. Maximillian Kolbe or the missionaries in the 16th century or the Church Councils and Church Fathers.
Yet for Cardinal Raymond Burke Vatican Council II is a rupture with Tradition and he will not affirm Feneeyite EENS.
So it means LG 16, LG 8, LG 14, AG 11,GS 22, UR 3, AG 11, AG 7  etc are exceptions to the dogma EENS for him.
So in principle these hypothetical cases are objective for Cardinal Burke.
People in Heaven are visible on earth for him. Or it means he would be able to judge that Jesus would judge someone in particular, who is presently outside the Church, who is going to  be saved.
How can invisible people be visible exceptions to traditional magisterial teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church? This is contrary to the Principle of Non Contradiction.Someone can be invisible or visible.Someone visible cannot be invisible too.
The media is not reporting this.
Since this is the error also of , for example, John Henry Weston, editor of LifeSites News.It is the same with 'New Catholic'  editor of the website Rorate Caeili.
So they are calling for a formal correction of Pope Francis but not of Cardinal Raymond Burke.
-Lionel Andrades

1.

AUGUST 20, 2017


Formal correction of two popes and three 'dubbia cardinals' needed on extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/formal-correction-of-two-popes-and.html
2.

LG 16( saved in 'invincible ignorance'), 

LG 8(saved with 'elements of sanctification and truth' in other religions),

LG 14 ( 'Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved...' and these are known cases for Cardinal Burke.

'Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own'  and these are known cases, particular people saved outside the Church for Cardinal Burke )

AG 11( 'seeds of the Word which lie hidden among their fellows' and which are examples of people saved outside the Church and without the baptism of water for Cardinal Raymond Burke)

AG 7( 'Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him' and these are known cases of people saved outside the Church without the baptism of water for Cardinal Burke but not for me.)


NA 2 (  'a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men' in known cases for Cardinal Burke but which are hypothetical cases for me) 

GS 22('all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way' and are saved allegedly outside the Catholic Church)

UR 3 ( 'For men who believe in Christ and have been truly baptized are in communion with the Catholic Church even though this communion is imperfect' and these people are personally known to Cardinal Burke but refer to hypothetical cases.If saved as such they would be known only to God and they would be members of the Catholic Church.

'separated Churches and Communities...have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation'  this is a speculative reference, a theoretical possibility known only to God. This is how I would interpret this passage.For Cardinal Burke this could be a reference to an explicit case, someone personally known who has been saved or will be saved outside the Church.This reasoning would be irrational for me.)

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NICENE CREED

JULY 4, 2017

FSSP priests need to interpret the Nicene Creed with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism.Bishops must be informed about the error

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/fssp-priests-need-to-interpret-nicene.html
JULY 3, 2017

The bottom line is that we are all reciting the Nicene Creed but there are two different interpretations
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/the-bottom-line-is-that-we-are-all.html


SEPTEMBER 10, 2016
The Vatican Curia interprets the Nicene Creed with irrational Cushingism : 'I believe in three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins.'
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/the-vatican-curia-interprets-nicene.html

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VATICAN COUNCIL II

 JUNE 21, 2014

The Grand Secret : Vatican Council II says all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Protestants etc are lost

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/the-grand-secret-vatican-council-ii.html


aPRIL 14, 2013
Since for Pope Francis LG 16 is visible, Vatican Council II is a break with the past, the past 'triumphalism'
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/04/since-for-pope-francis-lg-16-is-visible.html

 MARCH 27, 2013
All the Jews in Sydney and Boston are oriented to Hell according to Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/03/all-jews-in-sydney-and-boston-are.html

 OCTOBER 4, 2012

SSPX IDENTIFY THE FALSE PREMISE IN PUBLIC AND YOU WILL HAVE CREATED AN INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II IN ACCORD WITH TRADITION
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/10/sspx-identify-false-premise-in-public.html



CANON 915 ALSO APPLIES TO CARDINAL RAYMOND BURKE



NO MATTER HOW YOU INTERPRET DIGNITATIS HUMANAE IF VATICAN COUNCIL II AFFIRMS EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS RELIGIOUS LIBERTY IS TRADITIONAL
Christopher Ferrara, John Vennari and Fr.Nicholas Gruner express the new theology on Vatican Council II : it has a factual error, an objective mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/christopher-ferrara-john-vennari-and.html

 JULY 5, 2016

There is no reason to go into sedevacantism based on Vatican Council II( Cushingite) http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/07/there-is-no-reason-to-go-into.html

AUGUST 15, 2017

Vatican Council II is a legitimate,dogmatic,pastoral,exclusivist and traditional Council : it is a rupture with Schneider, Burke, Kohl and Kasper

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/vatican-council-ii-is.html

MARCH 10, 2017

University of Nottingham professor maintains invisible cases are visible : irrational inference not professional or ethical
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/university-of-nottingham-professor.html

EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

MARCH 10, 2017

For the English bishops and the Masons there is only EENS Cushingite.This is how they interpret EENS historically.They have created a new extra ecclesiam nulla salus

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/for-english-bishops-and-masons-there-is.html


MARCH 1, 2017

English Bishop interprets Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with irrational Cushingism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-bishop-interprets-vatican.html

MARCH 3, 2017
Gaudium et Specs 22 does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : English bishop tells a lie  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/gaudium-et-specs-22-does-not-contradict.html


MARCH 9, 2017
The dogma is absolutist and we do not know any one who is saved or going to be saved in another religion
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/the-dogma-is-absolutist-and-we-do-not.html

MARCH 8, 2017
English universities tell a lie and no priest objects
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-universities-tell-lie-and-no.html

MARCH 3, 2017
Adult Catholic tells lies on Internet

Theologians in Conversation; Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
https://youtu.be/HrEnMM6aAv0


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JUNE 7, 2011



CATECHESIS FOR CATHOLICS ONLY

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/06/catechesis-for-catholics-only.html

 Cardinal Raymond Burke approved Fr. John Hardon's error





Cardinal Raymond Burke interprets Church documents with an irrational premise and conclusion and offers the Traditional Latin Mass

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/03/cardinal-raymond-burke-interprets.html


Rome made a mistake in 1949 and Fr.John Hardon did not notice it
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/03/rome-made-mistake-in-1949-and-frjohn_3.html


The Catechumen you refer to is a hypothetical case for you and me. So it is not an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : Fr.John Hardon too did not notice this. http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/03/the-catechuman-you-refer-to-is.html 

For Cardinal Raymond Burke these hypothetical cases are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/03/for-cardinal-raymond-burke-these.html


VATICAN COUNCIL II SAYS 

JULY 25, 2017


To assume BOD, BOB and I.I are relevant or exceptions to the dogma EENS, is an objective error and so cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit in the Catechism of the Catholic Churchhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/to-assume-bod-bob-and-ii-are-relevant.html


Parish priests will not allow the Catechism to be interpreted with the theology of Feeneyism. They could be suspended or transferred.


JANUARY 24, 2017


CCC 846 and 1257 support the 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma EENShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/ccc-846-and-1257-support-rigorist.html

AUGUST 12, 2016

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1995) affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/vatican-council-ii-and-catechism-of.html

APRIL 2, 2016

The Catechism and Vatican Council II are not a break with the dogma EENS unless invisible and visible, hypothetical and objective cases are confused : how would Dr.Robert Hickson interpret CCC 1257 ?



http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/the-catechism1992-and-vatican-council.html

MARCH 31, 2015

Cardinal Raymond Burke approved the article. Fr.Hardon like Cardinal Marchetti makes this wrong inference in the article

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/03/cardinal-raymond-burke-approved-article.html

Cardinal Ratzinger, Fr.John Hardon and Robert Hickson were interpreting the Catechism and Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism as a theology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/cardinal-ratzinger-frjohn-hardon-and.html

Catechism of the Catholic Church affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus when the irrational inference is avoided
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/catechism-of-catholic-church-affirms.html


NO DENIAL FROM THE USCCB: IRRATIONALITY BEING USED IN ALL THE U.S DIOCESES IN THE INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II AND THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/no-denial-from-usccb-irrationality.html




OCTOBER 14, 2016



Politically correct catechism classes begin in Italy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/politically-correct-catechism-classes.html


JUNE 11, 2014

Vatican Council II and the Catechism are not in conflict : since there is no salvation outside the visible limits of the Church

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/vatican-council-ii-and-catechism-are.html

Catechetical programs of the USCCB in Boston, Worcester, Manchester are using a false premise
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/catechetical-programs-of-usccb-in.html
If Lancaster Diocese did not use this irrationality Bishop Michael Campbell would have to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus in accord with the Catechism (1993) and Vatican Council II   http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/if-lancaster-did-not-use-this.html
FEBRUARY 4, 2013

The Catechism and Vatican Council II are Feeneyite if you avoid the false premise
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/the-catechism-and-vatican-council-ii.html
Catechism of the Catholic Church affirms exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church : no contradiction
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/catechism-of-catholic-church-affirms.html
 MARCH 23, 2014
According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church all non Catholics in England are on the way to Hell unless they convert
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/according-to-catechism-of-catholic.html
 JUNE 25, 2013
Liberal dioceses and communities interpret the Catechism on morals and faith(salvation) with an irrationality
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/liberal-dioceses-and-communities.html
APRIL 6, 2013
Catechism of the Catholic Church can be interpreted in two ways. Choose one in Sydney
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/04/catechism-of-catholic-church-can-be.html
 MARCH 30, 2013
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/03/catechumenate-office-of-archdiocese-of.html
YEAR OF THE FAITH: VATICAN COUNCIL II SAYS OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION
THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AFFIRMS THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
Http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/12/the-catechism-of-catholic-church.html#links
NOVEMBER 19, 2012
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson has said that the Society of St.Pius X must know that adherence to Vatican Council II and the Catechism does not put them at odds with Tradition
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-has-said.html
 APRIL 15, 2014
Catholic bishops of Dallas, Fort Worth, Charlotte, Florida, USA approved a Mandatum to teach there is known salvation outside the Church and the dead-saved are visible to us http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/catholic-bishops-of-dallas-fort.html
APRIL 11, 2014
Same Catechism of the Catholic Church but different interpretations
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/same-catechism-of-catholic-church-but.html
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