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WALSH: Yoga Is A Pagan Ritual. Maybe Christians Should Find A Different Workout Routine.

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Don Reto Nay
I agree with Dr Bobus. I do not know what Yoga is in India but I suppose that it is something that cannot be easily reconciled with the true religion. In the West, “Yoga” became known as a set of physical exercises of which I do not believe that they would do a great harm, on the contrary.
Uncle Joe
Your pants say yoga, but your rear end says McDonalds. 😀
Dr Bobus
A distinction must be made between Hatha Yoga and Mantra Yoga. The former is a system of exercises, mostly stretching, to relieve stress of the body.
Mantra Yoga is a system of meditation, much like TM, in which a person meditates on a word that usually has no literal meaning to the person. Its lack of content means the person is opening his mind without knowing to what it is being opened.More
A distinction must be made between Hatha Yoga and Mantra Yoga. The former is a system of exercises, mostly stretching, to relieve stress of the body.

Mantra Yoga is a system of meditation, much like TM, in which a person meditates on a word that usually has no literal meaning to the person. Its lack of content means the person is opening his mind without knowing to what it is being opened.
BrTomFordeOFMCap
Klaus Gamber Right I shall take it but I will reiterate my argument: there is no solid evidence of a connection between yoga done for health and demonic possession. I would suggest that such ideas are theologically dubious (and at that I am being charitable).
BrTomFordeOFMCap
Wow there's a response! Klaus Gamber "Ouja boards, or ‘Tumbler talking’ are not sins per se, and neither are reading Tarrot cards or soothsaying" - well actually they are sins because they are occult practices, attempting to consult the 'dead' or 'spirits.' I also know priests involved in dealing with the effects of evil spirits and the one I know best is not against yoga done properly. As for …More
Wow there's a response! Klaus Gamber "Ouja boards, or ‘Tumbler talking’ are not sins per se, and neither are reading Tarrot cards or soothsaying" - well actually they are sins because they are occult practices, attempting to consult the 'dead' or 'spirits.' I also know priests involved in dealing with the effects of evil spirits and the one I know best is not against yoga done properly. As for the Irish priest who spoke about possession I commented on him (I hope not uncharitably) when it was posted here on GTV.

As for victim souls, I would suggest that technically they are not in the same class as those who are possessed by their own fault. Some souls seem to have become the victim of demonic attack by means of a magical assault by a Satanist (see the book 'Evidence of Satan in the Modern World' where such a case is described). The mysterious vocation of such persons puts them in a different category.

Dr Stuart Reiss Part of the problem in this discussion within the Church (not just here on GTV) is that most of it is conducted on the basis of anecdote and a lot of that is hearsay. I could quote horror stories of students that suddenly 'lost it' that taken at face value would indicate that doing a doctorate is bad for your health. As a doctor you will know better than I that there are many factors that might drive someone over the edge into serious mental illness and almost anything could trigger such an event if someone is susceptible. The only Church document I have come across (rather than the opinions of individuals) is the one by Cardinal Ratzinger when he head of the CDF (remember those happy days?) and it only mentions yoga as a means of prayer for which it should not be used, especially by Christians. I suppose that what is needed is a serious, scientific investigation of the matter.
Fischl
The resulting conversation could be very helpful for my granddaughter who uses Yoga as nice healthy bodywork
Joseph a' Christian
Many wise points in this artikle. Jesus' Apostle Paul strongly instrukts us, do not be yoked with unbelievers. (epistles)
Witthin The Vatican ll false bishops' document, nostre aetate, they praise the demonic hindu cult.
Christ Jesus Is The Singular Way to Life, Almighty GodMore
Many wise points in this artikle. Jesus' Apostle Paul strongly instrukts us, do not be yoked with unbelievers. (epistles)
Witthin The Vatican ll false bishops' document, nostre aetate, they praise the demonic hindu cult.

Christ Jesus Is The Singular Way to Life, Almighty God
BrTomFordeOFMCap
Klaus Gamber Thanks for the references and I have read Fr Amorth. There are two dangers when dealing with Satan and his minions: underestimating and overestimating. I find the idea that "countless bodies are possessed by demons through willing or sometimes unwitting participation in demonic activity and often by invitation through many different means" to be very strange if not unorthodox. How do …More
Klaus Gamber Thanks for the references and I have read Fr Amorth. There are two dangers when dealing with Satan and his minions: underestimating and overestimating. I find the idea that "countless bodies are possessed by demons through willing or sometimes unwitting participation in demonic activity and often by invitation through many different means" to be very strange if not unorthodox. How do you know?

Possession is a particular state that can only be discerned by the proper authority (bishop or his representatives) and the devil is not in the habit of putting a visible 'brand' on his acquisitions. So forgive me if I am sceptical here.

I do not deny that there are dangers but if you reread Card. Ratzinger's article his mention of yoga is in reference to it as a form of prayer which it is not of itself. Using yoga or zen meditation for prayer is in effect not praying since in order for it to be (Christian) prayer it must be the lifting up of the heart and mind to God. Note how brief and to the point is the Church's own traditional definition of prayer and yet how very broad.

Intention is at the heart of the matter even when it involves the evil one. He cannot gain control of anyone unless we persist in serious sin. I suggest that yoga does not fall into that category and after all these years of contact with India and Hinduism the Church has never pit it there.
BrTomFordeOFMCap
Klaus Gamber Are you suggesting that God created the human body in such a way that they can, merely by taking up a particular pose, contact a demon? The Church has never taught this. It strikes me as a rather gnostic idea.
Yoga was a set of techniques used by yogis to prepare for long periods of meditation. The danger in yoga, if there is any, is that of adopting other practices such as Ayurvedic …More
Klaus Gamber Are you suggesting that God created the human body in such a way that they can, merely by taking up a particular pose, contact a demon? The Church has never taught this. It strikes me as a rather gnostic idea.

Yoga was a set of techniques used by yogis to prepare for long periods of meditation. The danger in yoga, if there is any, is that of adopting other practices such as Ayurvedic philosophy and beginning a slow slide into eclecticism.

As for Hinduism some think that it was invented by the British in the 18th c., from the many religions on the Indian subcontinent to allow them to rule it more effectively.