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James Martin SJ: "Leo XIV Wants Continuation of Francis’ Legacy"

"It was very consoling and very encouraging," homosexual activist James Martin SJ told Reuters.com about the meeting with Pope Leo XIV on September 1.
"I heard the same message from Pope Leo that I heard from Pope Francis about welcoming LGBTQ people", he said.
Father Martin added that the meeting with Leo XIV lasted about a half-hour: "He wants everyone in the church to feel welcome."
And: "His approach to LGBTQ Catholics is a continuation of Pope Francis' legacy."
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In Principio

Just a thought about Leo XIV - was the election/conclave valid? When you ask for indulgencies /quarantines for the souls in Purgatory you have to some prayers for the pope or for the intentions of the pope. What if he is not a pope? The answer - I pray for Leo XIV and just in case for the Angelic Pontiff, who will fix all that immense mess. Hopefully, the Poor Souls get their indulgencies.

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This is not the first time that antipopes have usurped the papacy, although it is the first time that they are at the same time heretics and apostates who defy God and the Church.

In Principio

It's quite possible that he is not a pope, I prefer to pray for him , not his intentions. We do not know for sure if Prevost is the pope or not. What a mess we are in!

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For almost 40 years during the Western Schism, Catholics didn't know who the Pope was. Do you think Catholics couldn't pray for the souls in purgatory for 40 years?

In Principio

The rules for indulgences/quarantines are very specific - you have to pray for the pope or his intentions. Is it possible that no one obtained them during that span of time you mentioned? Now the situation may be the same. If that's then case - what a waste of effort.

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Scripture teaches that we can pray for men who sin against men, but no man can intercede for a man who sins against God (1 Samuel 2:25; Jeremiah 7:16-19; 1 John 5:16). After the resurrection of the only Messiah (ONLY INTERCESSOR), who deliberately sins against God tramples the Blood of Christ underfoot.

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Do you think you can pray for someone who rebels against God?

In Principio

Definitely yes. 'Love your enemies.'

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YOUR ENEMIES NOT THE ENEMIES OF GOD.

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Read the scripture.

In Principio

So you say that heretics/infidels/atheists are beyond mercy, i.e., chance for Salvation?

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(1 Samuel 2:25; Jeremiah 7:16-19; 1 John 5:16, Hebrews 10:29) These are a few examples.

In Principio

I do not agree with you. God is Justice AND Mercy.

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It is a heresy to think that a heretic an apostate can be pope.

In Principio

I know that we are in a much bigger mess than you claim - that's why the Chastisement must happen.

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Scripture says it is impossible for an apostate (one who rebels against God) to be restored, so it compares him to a dog that eats vomit or a pig that wallows in the mud. The same thing happened with the apostate angels.

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Saint Alphonsus Maria de Liguori explains that when a priest falls into apostasy, he sins against God like the apostate angels.

In Principio

Angels were not given second chance since they SAW and KNEW God. Humans are in different situation. About Alphonsus - would you have the quotation? And if it does say if this priest can be forgiven.

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CHAPTER IV. GRIEVOUSNESS AND CHASTISEMENT OF SIN …

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CHAPTER IV. GRIEVOUSNESS AND CHASTISEMENT OF SIN IN A PRIEST
Every sin of a priest is a sin of malice; it is like the sin of the angels that sinned in view of the light, says St. Bernard, speaking of a priest; hence he adds, “He has become an angel of the Lord, and sinning as a priest he sins in heaven.”1 He sins in the midst of light, and therefore his sin, as has been said, is a sin of malice: he cannot allege ignorance, for he knows the great evil of mortal sin: he cannot plead weakness, because he knows the means by which, if he wishes, he can acquire strength; if he is unwilling to adopt the means, the fault is entirely his own. He would not understand that he might do well.2 According to St. Thomas, the sin of malice is that which is committed with knowledge.3 And in another place he says: “Every sin committed through malice is against the Holy Ghost.”4 We know from St. Matthew that the sin against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven, neither in this world nor in the world to come. 5 That is, on account of the blindness caused by sins of malice they shall be pardoned only with great difficulty.
Our Saviour prayed on the cross for his persecutors, saying, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.6 But for bad priests this prayer was a source rather of condemnation than of salvation: for they know what they do. 7 Jeremias said with tears, “How is the gold become dim, the finest color is changed” 8
1 “Angelus Domini factus est. In clero quippe, tanquam in cœlo gerens iniqua.” Declam. n. 24.
2 “Noluit intelligere, ut bene ageret.” Ps. xxxv. 4.
3 “Scienter eligitur.” i. 2, q. 78, a. i.
4 “Omne peccatum ex malitia est contra Spiritum Sanctum.” De Malo, q. 3, a. 14.
5 “Non remittetur ei, neque in hoc sæculo, neque in futuro.” Matth. xii. 32.
6 “Pater, dimitte illis; non enim sciiint quidfaciunt.” Luke ,xxiii. 34.
7 “Sciunt quid faciunt.”
8 “Quomodo obscuratum est aurum, mutatus est color optimus !”

“The gold which has been obscured,” says Cardinal Hugo, “is the sinful priest who ought to shine forth with divine love; but by committing sin he becomes black, and an object of horror even to hell, and becomes more hateful to God than other sinners.”
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In Principio

Amazing work. Thank you. I am still not sure if the priests that are committing grave sin are without hope of salvation (that is what you have suggested?). Let me present here a quote from 'The Dialogue' of Saint Catherine of Siena about similar problem - sinful priests (I have a friendly exchange with Mrs. Ann Barnhardt back in 2019 when I pointed the same thing - do not attack the priests but pray for them, because they can be forgiven):
'Quote from “The Dialogue” of St Catherine of Siena; God the Eternal Father speaking:
“Because of the dignity and authority I have give them [priests], it never has nor ever will be my will that the hand of civil law should touch them for any sin of theirs. To do so would be a wretched offense against me. No, it is my will that they be held in due reverence, not for what they are in themselves, but for my sake, because of the authority, I have given them. […] You ought to despise and hate the ministers’ sins, and try to dress them in the new clothes of charity and holy prayer, and wash away their filth with your tears. In other words, you should hold them out to me with tears and great desire, so that I in my goodness may clothe them with the garment of charity. […] But you are not to judge them. Leave the judging to me, and I, because of your prayers and my own desire, will be merciful to them. If they will not change their ways, the dignity they have will be their destruction." pp. 229-231
What do you think?