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The truth about the false apparitions of Medjugorje/ The final report of Bishop Pavao Zanic

Thanks for finally providing us with the "whole truth". It a shame that hundreds of bishops, tens of thousands of priests and millions of the faithful that have been there missed it! It certainly cleared things us when Bishop Zanic condemned the apparitions (Oh wait! he never did condemn them as the local bishop!) He must have been doing a great job however for the Vatican to remove Medjugorje …More
Thanks for finally providing us with the "whole truth". It a shame that hundreds of bishops, tens of thousands of priests and millions of the faithful that have been there missed it! It certainly cleared things us when Bishop Zanic condemned the apparitions (Oh wait! he never did condemn them as the local bishop!) He must have been doing a great job however for the Vatican to remove Medjugorje from his jurisdiction. Maybe it was because he was imprisoned by the communist atheistic government authorities. No that was the local parish priest in Medjugorje. It seems the bishop got along fairly well with the government officials (go along to get along!)

Seems to me that we should ALL wait for the church to make its final determination and accept that determination in holy obedience.
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Archbishop Hoser: New Mostar Bishop Will Help Recognize Medjugorje

@Alex A - Is your research more comprehensive and accurate then the multi-year research that the 17 member commission established by Pope Benedict conducted. They found overwhelmingly that the first 10 days of the apparitions in Medjugorje were supernatural and the following apparitions undetermined at this time. They did not find any of them - "not supernatural" and did not condemn any of them.…More
@Alex A - Is your research more comprehensive and accurate then the multi-year research that the 17 member commission established by Pope Benedict conducted. They found overwhelmingly that the first 10 days of the apparitions in Medjugorje were supernatural and the following apparitions undetermined at this time. They did not find any of them - "not supernatural" and did not condemn any of them. If you think its about the money then you CLEARLY have never visited Medjugorje. While the number of visits may be irrelevant, trying to speak with authority about a place you have never been to, is relevant. The church has put restrictions on Medjugorje and the seers and priests have obeyed those restrictions. (no church sponsored pilgrimages or activities related to the apparitions in the parish church for example). Be careful of second hand internet "research". For example you can find countless sites that "prove beyond a doubt" that the Pope is the antichrist and the church has tons of gold in the basement.
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Archbishop Hoser: New Mostar Bishop Will Help Recognize Medjugorje

@Ultraviolet - you have still not disclosed how you obtained the transcript of the conversation between Ivan and his prefect in the 1980's that you reference above. Do you reject the finding of Pope Benedicts commission that overwhelmingly found the first 10 days of the Medjugorje apparitions supernatural? If you reject an apparition because it is not Church approved and you also reject it if it …More
@Ultraviolet - you have still not disclosed how you obtained the transcript of the conversation between Ivan and his prefect in the 1980's that you reference above. Do you reject the finding of Pope Benedicts commission that overwhelmingly found the first 10 days of the Medjugorje apparitions supernatural? If you reject an apparition because it is not Church approved and you also reject it if it is approved then are you setting yourself up as the ultimate authority?
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First Time: Francis Intervenes at Medjugorie Festival

No bad fruits at Lourdes or Fatima? Clearly you have not visited either. I am a regular visitor to both Fatima and Lourdes and while I love the spirituality, the commercialism and the scammers outside the gates of the shrines are appalling. Of course the same can be said of the the area outside the Vatican. Not wanting to travel to Medjugorje or make it part of your devotion is clearly your …More
No bad fruits at Lourdes or Fatima? Clearly you have not visited either. I am a regular visitor to both Fatima and Lourdes and while I love the spirituality, the commercialism and the scammers outside the gates of the shrines are appalling. Of course the same can be said of the the area outside the Vatican. Not wanting to travel to Medjugorje or make it part of your devotion is clearly your right and your choice. Private revelations are not required belief for faithful Catholics. Denouncing an apparition especially with incorrect or incomplete information prior to the final decision of the Church on a worldwide forum is another matter. As I know you are aware, final church approval has often in the past has taken a very long time. The recently approved apparition in Champion WI took 140 years! Would you have publicly denounced Lourdes or Fatima prior to their final approval based on second hand information? Lots of spiritual responsibility for leading others astray.
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First Time: Francis Intervenes at Medjugorie Festival

I do not understand your question. Can you explain
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First Time: Francis Intervenes at Medjugorie Festival

Non constat de supernaturalitate means not certain that it is supernatural. Constat de nonsupernaturalite means that is certain that it is not supernatural. Non constat de supernaturalitate is not by any means a condemnation. The Commission established by Pope Benedict in 2010 (17 members and chaired by Cardinal Camillo Ruini) Declared overwhelmingly that the apparitions in Medjugorje from June …More
Non constat de supernaturalitate means not certain that it is supernatural. Constat de nonsupernaturalite means that is certain that it is not supernatural. Non constat de supernaturalitate is not by any means a condemnation. The Commission established by Pope Benedict in 2010 (17 members and chaired by Cardinal Camillo Ruini) Declared overwhelmingly that the apparitions in Medjugorje from June 24 until July 3 of 1981 to be Constat de Supernaturalite (certain to be supernatural) and the subsequent apparitions to be Non Constat de Supernaturalitate (not certain to be supernatural). Our Ladys message from day one has been prayer, penance, confession and Euchristic adoration. This message has not changed. The fruits cannot be denied. Millions have found the faith, returned to the faith, or been strengthened in their faith. Thousands of new vocations have been found. Per scripture can a bad tree bear good fruit? If satan is leading all of these people to conversion and love of the Euchrist then he needs to do more of it.
I find that most people who seem to be very critical of Medjugorje have never been there, never read Our Ladys messages and seem to focus on the human faults of the visionaries. They seem to have their own idea of how, where and to whom Our Lady should appear.
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First Time: Francis Intervenes at Medjugorie Festival

How in the heck did you get a transcript of a conversation that Ivan had with his prefect at Visoko? Was this in the 1980's? Is it an audio recording?

In your detective work did you consider motive? Can you give me a plausible motive for the children to invent the story of a visit by Our Lady and then stick with it knowing full well the wrath of the communist government that would and in fact …More
How in the heck did you get a transcript of a conversation that Ivan had with his prefect at Visoko? Was this in the 1980's? Is it an audio recording?

In your detective work did you consider motive? Can you give me a plausible motive for the children to invent the story of a visit by Our Lady and then stick with it knowing full well the wrath of the communist government that would and in fact did descend upon them and their families?
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First Time: Francis Intervenes at Medjugorie Festival

@philosopher - now that I have posted the actual text of the message (Oct 1 , 1981) do you not have a moral obligation to retract and apologize for publicly claiming that Our Lady said that all religions are equal?
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First Time: Francis Intervenes at Medjugorie Festival

@philosopher - Making the statement that something is common knowledge is often the tactic of those who cannot defend their position with facts and evidence.
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First Time: Francis Intervenes at Medjugorie Festival

The Oct 1, 1981 message

Are all religions the same? "Members of all faiths are equal before God. God rules over each faith just like a sovereign over his kingdom. In the world, all religions are not the same because all people have not complied with the commandments of God. They reject and disparage them."
Are all churches the same? "In some, the strength of prayer to God is greater, in other…More
The Oct 1, 1981 message

Are all religions the same? "Members of all faiths are equal before God. God rules over each faith just like a sovereign over his kingdom. In the world, all religions are not the same because all people have not complied with the commandments of God. They reject and disparage them."
Are all churches the same? "In some, the strength of prayer to God is greater, in others, smaller. That depends on the priests who motivate others to pray. It depends also on the power which they have."
Why do You appear to us so often and to others who do not follow God's path?* "I appear to you often and in every place. To others, I appear from time to time briefly. They do not yet follow the way of God completely. They are not aware of the gift which He has made them. That, no one deserves. with time, they also will come to follow the right way."

Notice the question mark. Our Lady is responding to questions and does not say that all religions are the same. Amazing how much damage a misreporting of a message can be. As far as historians and clerics with a "strong theological backgound" is concerned, I can find one of those to support almost any position possible.
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First Time: Francis Intervenes at Medjugorie Festival

philosopher - As of 2020 there are a little over 5500 bishops worldwide of the Latin and Eastern rites. "3 bishops reject Medjugorje as authentic." I would not exactly call that a slam dunk. Could you provide the date and the specific visionary that said that Our Lady stated that "all religions are equal"? I have been following Medjugorje since approximately 1985 and have visited twice. I have …More
philosopher - As of 2020 there are a little over 5500 bishops worldwide of the Latin and Eastern rites. "3 bishops reject Medjugorje as authentic." I would not exactly call that a slam dunk. Could you provide the date and the specific visionary that said that Our Lady stated that "all religions are equal"? I have been following Medjugorje since approximately 1985 and have visited twice. I have never seen a message from any of the visionaries that Our Lady made that statement. Do you have any firsthand knowledge of Medjugorje? As we all know there are good and bad Bishops. I can find far more than 3 that reject the basic tenants of our faith.
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My Time in Prison by George Cardinal Pell | Articles

Somewhat of a cheap shot to cast suspicion on someone but then not disclose any details that would allow them to defend themselves or to allow others to verify the information.
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Trump to mobilize military to deliver COVID vaccine to millions ‘very, very quickly’ | News

Not mandatory unless you want to travel, go to work, attend school, eat at a resturant, enter a government building ect!
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Os Três Pastorinhos

been to fatima a couple of times and have seen the above statues but do not remember seeing an obelisk. Do you have a photo that shows it?
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Fr. Longenecker against Catholics who receive Communion on tongue kneeling

jmy1975- "pretend to be pious, receive on the tongue and then judge others and live a selfish life" Isn't that judging???
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Fr. Longenecker against Catholics who receive Communion on tongue kneeling

Virtue always seems to make those who chose to act without virtue uncomfortable. I guess all those who dress modestly for mass, genuflect, kneel for the consecration, wear a scapular ect. are just full of self righteousness and need to repent!
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Polonia Semper Fidelis!

Of course they are comparable. He spends his time carrying a cross and you spend your time posting. If his time could have been better spent earning money to feed the hungry then your time could also have been better spent earning money to feed the hungry.
(side note: I spend a fair amount of time in Europe and have not seen many people dying of hunger. Here at home the number one health problem …More
Of course they are comparable. He spends his time carrying a cross and you spend your time posting. If his time could have been better spent earning money to feed the hungry then your time could also have been better spent earning money to feed the hungry.
(side note: I spend a fair amount of time in Europe and have not seen many people dying of hunger. Here at home the number one health problem with our poor is obesity.)
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Polonia Semper Fidelis!

I recommend that you immediately stop using your time to display your religiously themed ideas on the public stage of this website and get a second job to earn more money to buy food for your local food bank.
Give the guy a break.
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Polonia Semper Fidelis!

Jesus could have fed every hungry person on the planet and healed every sick person on earth, but he did not. The eternal is always more important than the temporal. Maybe a little more research on why he flt led to do what he did before slamming him. I respect the man in the fight far more than the critics in the bleachers.
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Polonia Semper Fidelis!

@Ultraviolet I tend to agree with most of your posts on this site but I have to strongly disagree with you on this one. Following your logic we should not have public Euchristic processions or public celebrations of Holy Days or any public display of our faith. The world needs his rosaries and acts of penance and reparation far more than it needs more canned goods at the local food pantry. …More
@Ultraviolet I tend to agree with most of your posts on this site but I have to strongly disagree with you on this one. Following your logic we should not have public Euchristic processions or public celebrations of Holy Days or any public display of our faith. The world needs his rosaries and acts of penance and reparation far more than it needs more canned goods at the local food pantry. Should priests and nuns not wear their habits in public? Should we not pray our rosaries outside of abortion clinics? Our faith should not be shuttered behind closed doors! It is not a matter of spiritual pride but a matter of witnessing to a world that is dying spiritually and needs to turn back to God. I am reminded of China where today all outward signs of the faith must remain inside the church building without even a cross on the exterior. It breaks my heart when I see our own bishops in public tucking their pectoral crucifixes inside their suitcoat pockets or even worse wearing lay clothing. We need more brave souls like this man in Poland!