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The Problem of the "Reverent” Novus Ordo “The concept of reverent Novus Ordo celebrations may come as a surprise, but I assure you they exist, though they are rare,” Unam Sanctam Catholicam blog …More
The Problem of the "Reverent” Novus Ordo

“The concept of reverent Novus Ordo celebrations may come as a surprise, but I assure you they exist, though they are rare,” Unam Sanctam Catholicam blog wrote in September. The reverent Novus Ordo contains elements such as Catholic preaching, Latin, the Roman Canon, veiled women, the Asperges, altar rails, and beautiful vestments. The blog insists “that it is possible to celebrate the Novus Ordo in a way that is reverent and dignified.”

Liturgically libertarian

In a surprising turnaround, the blog states that saying that it is possible to celebrate the New Mass reverently is “an awful defense of the Novus Ordo.” Yes, the rubrics of the Novus Ordo “allow” for a reverent celebration. But the word "allow" is the crux of the problem. It allows for reverence if the celebrant chooses to use all the most reverent options. However, the same rubrics allow just as easily for the most banal, goofy, or irreverent options if the celebrant so chooses.

Two Pastors, Two Liturgies

The blog’s author relates that his parish had a traditional pastor for over a decade. The pastor used the neo-gothic high altar and put the eucharistic table in storage. When the priest left, the temporary parish administrator immediately put the eucharistic table back. Both priests could cite documents in support of their decisions: the original pastor referred to the Missale Romanum which supposes a celebration towards God, and the administrator to the General Instructions of the Roman Missal which allow to preside away from God. So, it all depended on the preferences of a priest. Conclusion: The Novus Ordo is an exercise of the pastor's personal taste.

Simply Reverent

The blog compares this with the Traditional Latin Mass, where the celebrant becomes irrelevant. The reverence of the Traditional Latin Mass is not the product of subjective preference, but is built into the structure of the rite itself. The Traditional Mass does not have a contingent "allowance" for reverence. It simply is reverent.
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tbswv
The Novus Ordo liturgy simply follows a protestant model and therefore cannot be "reverent" since it promotes symbolism and not the real presence. Only the Traditional Latin Mass pre 1962 is reverent, and honors Our Lord. That is why the 'inovators" revised the rubrics of the liturgy and consulted with protestants.
rhemes1582
It Simply is Reverent. The Traditional Latin Mass.
shorts
I love going to the Trad Mass. I truly do because I feel as though I'm in God's house and not a community center.
Vincent Capuano
Absolutely true! But for the average priest in the average diocese or congregation it is the only option un less he wants to lose his faculties and takeaway from the faithful the last scrap of Catholic piety
Ultraviolet
"However, the same rubrics allow just as easily for the most banal, goofy, or irreverent options if the celebrant so chooses." One does not blame the rubrics if the celebrant chooses poorly.

"The blog compares this with the Traditional Latin Mass, where the celebrant becomes irrelevant."

The celebrant is never irrelevant in ANY Mass. *scowls*
mystic
What is meant is that in TLM, the celebrant can't be irreverent, if he does what the book says because there are no options. Or in other words,, the celebrant has no choice making into producing a clown's show. While in NO mass the celbrant can do as he wishes.
Ultraviolet
No offense, @mystic but... well... "Or in other words,, the celebrant has no choice making into producing a clown's show." is so convoluted, I honestly don't understand you. "Making into producing a clown's show"? Say what?

It's my understanding the TLM has rubrics for practically every gesture the celebrant makes from the moment he begins to the moment he ends. NO (there's an unintentionally…More
No offense, @mystic but... well... "Or in other words,, the celebrant has no choice making into producing a clown's show." is so convoluted, I honestly don't understand you. "Making into producing a clown's show"? Say what?

It's my understanding the TLM has rubrics for practically every gesture the celebrant makes from the moment he begins to the moment he ends. NO (there's an unintentionally funny abbreivation, eh?) Masses do not and allow the celebrant vastly more liberty for, uh... improvisation. Some celebrants don't abuse the privilege and give glory to God. Others... sadly, do not and, as you probably know, have literally turned the Mass into a clown show, complete with real clowns. Since an ordained priest is necessary for both forms of the Mass, without a priest there can be no Mass. That doesn't change if the priest is NO or TLM, devout or a buffoon.
mystic
"Clown show" is just quoted from the original article.
Unintentionally? No way.
No offense?
My Jesus says to me:
Political correctness unfortunately rewards and teaches people to be continuously in search for awareness on how they are being offended. Political correctness shortens the fuse of peoples and nations. And while people will always keep offending, consciously or by accident, it is just …More
"Clown show" is just quoted from the original article.
Unintentionally? No way.
No offense?
My Jesus says to me:
Political correctness unfortunately rewards and teaches people to be continuously in search for awareness on how they are being offended. Political correctness shortens the fuse of peoples and nations. And while people will always keep offending, consciously or by accident, it is just a matter of time before someone gets offended and the next war breaks out. Believe me it is the narrow gate to not get offended, because there is no reward for not getting offended, while there is a reward for getting offended. Therefore political correctness is sweet in the mouth, but bitter in the stomach, it is an invention of the adversary used to sow discord. I tell you this because I can already see the bitter fruits of it on a greater scale.
So you: do not get offended.
Ultraviolet
I was referring to the phrase "making into producing" and that wasn't in the original. ;-) Hey, it's simple. TLM or NO, devout or silly... no priest, no Mass. Period. That's a good thing. The Church's lengthy ordination process and the vows priests must take, it goes a long way to weeding out a lot of the idiots

As awful as some Catholic priest might become, hoo boy... one look at the ministe…More
I was referring to the phrase "making into producing" and that wasn't in the original. ;-) Hey, it's simple. TLM or NO, devout or silly... no priest, no Mass. Period. That's a good thing. The Church's lengthy ordination process and the vows priests must take, it goes a long way to weeding out a lot of the idiots

As awful as some Catholic priest might become, hoo boy... one look at the ministers over in Lutheran-Land shows how many of them live in Crazy Town. :P