Dr Bobus
I understand what Bp Strickland is saying, but I think liturgy by definition is vertical--it inclines to upward or downward movement. What was called horizontal liturgy years ago was actually inclined downward.

Vat II has not been distorted. There are some very good (and much needed) texts in Vat II, but they are specifically undermined by other texts. In one place Vat II says one thing, in …More
I understand what Bp Strickland is saying, but I think liturgy by definition is vertical--it inclines to upward or downward movement. What was called horizontal liturgy years ago was actually inclined downward.

Vat II has not been distorted. There are some very good (and much needed) texts in Vat II, but they are specifically undermined by other texts. In one place Vat II says one thing, in another place it says something else.
Holy Cannoli
What's wrong with Vatican II?
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@ Dr Bobus
In one place Vat II says one thing, in another place it says something else.
Please provide an example and citation.More
What's wrong with Vatican II?
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@ Dr Bobus
In one place Vat II says one thing, in another place it says something else.
Please provide an example and citation.
Dr Bobus
101. 1. In accordance with the centuries-old tradition of the Latin rite, the Latin language is to be retained by clerics in the divine office. But in individual cases the ordinary has the power of granting the use of a vernacular translation to those clerics for whom the use of Latin constitutes a grave obstacle to their praying the office properly. The vernacular version, however, must be one …More
101. 1. In accordance with the centuries-old tradition of the Latin rite, the Latin language is to be retained by clerics in the divine office. But in individual cases the ordinary has the power of granting the use of a vernacular translation to those clerics for whom the use of Latin constitutes a grave obstacle to their praying the office properly. The vernacular version, however, must be one that is drawn up according to the provision of Art. 36.

2. The competent superior has the power to grant the use of the vernacular in the celebration of the divine office, even in choir, to nuns and to members of institutes dedicated to acquiring perfection, both men who are not clerics and women. The version, however, must be one that is approved.

3. Any cleric bound to the divine office fulfills his obligation if he prays the office in the vernacular together with a group of the faithful or with those mentioned in 52 above provided that the text of the translation is approv
Dr Bobus
The above is from Sacrosanctum Concilium, no 101. Note how it first insists Latin to be used in the Divine Office by clerics, then provide an out to clerics claiming "the use of Latin constitutes a grave obstacle".
Holy Cannoli
When I was a yut in High School I studied Latin and Caesar s Gallic Wars for 4 years. 😴 It was a good mental exercise but I remember nothing and have no Latin understanding except for liturgical Latin and even that is limited. 🤪 I am trying to make a case for getting rid of Latin entirely. It's no longer needed. The Catholic writings of the past Catholic doctors and fathers are all translated in …More
When I was a yut in High School I studied Latin and Caesar s Gallic Wars for 4 years. 😴 It was a good mental exercise but I remember nothing and have no Latin understanding except for liturgical Latin and even that is limited. 🤪 I am trying to make a case for getting rid of Latin entirely. It's no longer needed. The Catholic writings of the past Catholic doctors and fathers are all translated in whatever language we want so why deal with a useless boring language. 🤔 Even the Church has all but eliminated Latin yet there are those purists who want to continue to beat this dead horse. 😡 There would be more of a reason to study Greek or Aramaic but those are non starters.
Dr Bobus
I recommend Veterum Sapientia by John XXIII, which is on Latin. It is not long--a page of so.

Common in pre Vat II clerical education was the study of Greek.

I can see no reason to study Aramaic--Scripture is in Hebrew and Greek.
Holy Cannoli
One Cardinal and Four Bishops Teach Clearly that Catholics Must Refuse Vaccines Tainted by Abortion

On December 12, 2020, one Cardinal and four Bishops (including Joseph E. Strickland, Bishop of Tyler, Texas) released a statement to teach Catholics that they should refuse COVID vaccines derived from the cells of aborted children. Comparing the practice of making vaccines from aborted children …More
One Cardinal and Four Bishops Teach Clearly that Catholics Must Refuse Vaccines Tainted by Abortion

On December 12, 2020, one Cardinal and four Bishops (including Joseph E. Strickland, Bishop of Tyler, Texas) released a statement to teach Catholics that they should refuse COVID vaccines derived from the cells of aborted children. Comparing the practice of making vaccines from aborted children to cannibalism, these princes of the Church argue that accepting such vaccines willingly contradicts the Church’s unequivocal condemnation of abortion. The text is also reproduced in full below the video and audio podcast. Link