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Cardinal Aveline: Latin Mass Catholics Must Accept Vatican II

The Mass in the Roman rite touches on the very idea of tradition in the Church, Cardinal Jean-Marc Aveline of Marseille, president of the French bishops, told KTO on April 5.

Bishops are called to show “pastoral solicitude” toward those Catholics: “First, to welcome them. It is not about judging them.”

He added that this welcome should not begin by trying to redirect them and “not to say: 'they should go elsewhere or do it differently'.”

At the same time, Cardinal Aveline emphasized that this welcome must remain within the framework of official Church structures: “Tradition goes all the way to the last council, including the Second Vatican Council.”

Cardinal Aveline added that the liturgy and Vatican II “is not necessarily irreconcilable” as there is “a hermeneutic of continuity”. Councils “do not abolish previous ones.”

On the announcement of episcopal consecrations by the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X., Cardinal Aveline spoke of “a cause of sadness.”

He believes: “It is not the first time in the Church that a council has been difficult to receive.”

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Cardinal Aveline: Latin Mass Catholics Must Accept Vatican II
The Feeneyite traditionalists at the St. Benedict Center in Richmond, New Hampshire, USA, who attend only the Latin Mass, accept Vatican Council II but interpret it rationally, unlike Cardinal Aveline. They also accept the Catechism of the Catholic Church rationally and traditionally unlike the French bishops. The French bishops and traditionalists in France should do the same. Vatican Council II irraitonal creates schism. Vatican Council II rational and ecclesiocentric has the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition.

john333

Vatican II is freemasonic take over of the church so go @#$% your self

Yes Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally is approved by the Masons. But Vatican Council II interpreted rationally could be considered Anti Semitic or fundamentalist by the political Left.

We will never betray the Most Holy Trinity; we will never obey heretics disguised as experts, the pseudo-Council Vatican II—which is not dogmatic—nor those who pose as popes and worship Pachamama.
Gregory Baum, architect of Nostra Aetate and a …

Vatican Council II interpreted rationally, is ecclesiocentric and traditional. It is aligned with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and an ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church, of the Syllabus of Pope Pius X. It is in harmony with all the Catechisms including the Cathechism of Pope Pius X and John Paul II, on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus etc.

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No one has ever been able to agree about what exactly we are required to accept from Vatican II. Even the particular innovations of it (such as religious liberty) are understood very differently by different theologians and bishops, with precious little indication of, or conflicting accounts of, the "correct" reading.

1266

When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally it is traditional and ecclesiocentric. It is aligned with the ecclesiology of the Papal States in Europe. So in harmony with Tradition, it is in harmony with the Catholic Church of the 1930's.So Collegiality, Liturgy, Ecumenism, Mission, Dialogue etc are no more controversial for conservative Catholics.

He is referring to Vatican Council II irrational and not Vatican Council II rational. The Council interpreted rationally supports the traditionalists and not the liberal French bishops conference.
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SEDEVACANTISM BASED UP0N VATICAN COUNCIL II IS NOW QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS (UPDATED)
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Dr Kwasniewski’s Interview with Matt Fradd
WHEN POPE LEO AFFIRMS VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONALLY HE AFFIRMS FEENEYITE EENS. THE COUNCIL IS ECCLESIOCENTRIC WITH NO EXCEPTIONS FOR TRADITION : 98 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS (UPDATED)
WHEN POPE LEO AFFIRMS VATICAN COUNCIL II …
Peter Kwasniewski on the SSPX consecrations
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POPE LEO AND ARCHBISHOP VIGANO ARE CUSHINGITES. …
Il Vaticano indaga sul caso dei Redentoristi …

Jeffrey Ade

I agree!

CatMuse

It’s traditional to condemn bad councils as well.

SonoftheChurch

Which ones would you say were “bad”?

CatMuse

I'm simply pointing out that councils can be bad and Catholics are not required to accept bad councils.

Scapular

There was definitely skulduggery at VII and the Vatican has to come to terms with the fact the Holy Ghost doesn’t come to the assistance of those not interested in the Divine Will.

This is why it is still worth praying for any Papal and bishop intentions that may be compatible with His Divine Will. If it doesn't fit it won't work.

mccallansteve

Never!!! Vatican II was inspired by Satan and has decimated the Church.

Irishpol

@Scapularmcallansteve You could not have said that any better and any more straightforward! Thank you.

Mike Paul Smith

They never talk about Quo Primum? The Novus Ordo ‘Mass’ is forbidden & not in union with Papal decree of Pope St PiusV.

Seabass

Quo Primum has never been revoked.

Since it was not dogmatic, V2 does NOT have to be accepted. It should just die.

Jeffrey Ade

Always in conformity with the Magisterium of the Catholic Church!

A heretical, non-dogmatic megacouncil that eliminated the Tradition of the Church and opened the doors to the current apostasy. No, thank you; we will never accept the apostate ecumenical heresy that violates the First Commandment.