mystic
Bishop Tobin: If somebody converts on the last day of his life, he is saved. If someone sees the light in the last week of his life and discovers there is something wrong with the church, he is a sinner if he doesn't do anything about it. And if you do not believe those things you are not catholic. Saying "why did it take you years to do so" sounds like you trying to get the clappers on your …More
Bishop Tobin: If somebody converts on the last day of his life, he is saved. If someone sees the light in the last week of his life and discovers there is something wrong with the church, he is a sinner if he doesn't do anything about it. And if you do not believe those things you are not catholic. Saying "why did it take you years to do so" sounds like you trying to get the clappers on your hand and to isolate the subject.
tbswv
Good point!
stjoseph2
What a genius! Tobin literally confirmed Archbishop Vigano’s argument. “Vatican 2 is a parallel church “. Love how the “Vatican 2 church” denies any allegations that they have set up a new anti-catholic church, then publicly admit that they are fully aware of this fact.
Gesù è con noi
Exactly! Tobin openly admits that Vatican II created another parallel church by calling it himself the church of the Vatican II: "and crafted a rather prominent ecclesiastical career in the Vatican II Church"
Ultraviolet
It's a tweet, not a thesis for a degree. Bishop Tobin is using the phrase "Vatican II Church" not to describe a parallel Church as Gesu so stupidly describes it, but the same Catholic Church whose liturgy was changed and, sadly, the many cultural shifts that resulted from it. The Church is still the Church. This "parallel" idiom reeks of schismatics trying to justify themselves.
123jussi
Vatican II is harmful ,it took him 55 years how long will it take you?
F M Shyanguya
Alex A
The operative word being 'appears.'
F M Shyanguya
A Churchman who attacks a Church council and is in the circle of President Trump and Dr Marshall? It appears [legal sense] = it is evident.

A Churchman whose savior is a man Trump and not the LORD of the Church he claims to be a minister of.
Gesù è con noi
Roberto de Mattei : “There cannot be pastoral care that is in dissonance with the Church’s truths and morality, in contrast with Her laws and not oriented to the ideal achievement of the Christian life!” revealed Cardinal Velasio De Paolis, in his opening address at the Umbrian Ecclesiastical Tribunal on March 27th 2014.
Cardinal Sarah has repeatedly denounced proposals to liberalize Church …More
Roberto de Mattei : “There cannot be pastoral care that is in dissonance with the Church’s truths and morality, in contrast with Her laws and not oriented to the ideal achievement of the Christian life!” revealed Cardinal Velasio De Paolis, in his opening address at the Umbrian Ecclesiastical Tribunal on March 27th 2014.
Cardinal Sarah has repeatedly denounced proposals to liberalize Church discipline on marriage, homosexuality and Holy Communion as “a form of heresy, a dangerous schizophrenic pathology” “that would consist in placing the Magisterium in a nice box by detaching it from pastoral practice – which could evolve according to the circumstances, fads, and passions.”
Gesù è con noi
Vatican II, which is not dogmatic, divorced itself from the Church's dogma to contradict and nullify it. And it is used by modernist heretics like Bergoglio to attack and contradict the doctrine of the Catholic Church even to contradict Scripture, to contradict the Deposit of Faith.
Vatican II, which is not dogmatic, contradicts even dogmatic councils like Trent.
Gesù è con noi
El Vaticano II, que no es dogmático, se divorció del dogma de la Iglesia para contradecirlo y anularlo. Y es utilizado por herejes modernistas como Bergoglio para atacar y contradecir la doctrina de la Iglesia Católica incluso para contradecir las Escrituras, para contradecir el Depósito de la Fe.
El Vaticano II, que no es dogmático, contradice incluso concilios dogmáticos como el de Trento.
Gesù è con noi
Separar la "práctica pastoral" de la doctrina católica es una "patología esquizofrénica peligrosa"

Roberto de Mattei:
La pastoral se funda precisamente en la doctrina dogmática y moral. «¡No puede haber una pastoral en desacuerdo con las verdades y la moral de la Iglesia, en conflicto con sus leyes y que no esté orientada a alcanzar el idea de la vida cristiana!», declaró el cardenal Velasio de …More
Separar la "práctica pastoral" de la doctrina católica es una "patología esquizofrénica peligrosa"

Roberto de Mattei:
La pastoral se funda precisamente en la doctrina dogmática y moral. «¡No puede haber una pastoral en desacuerdo con las verdades y la moral de la Iglesia, en conflicto con sus leyes y que no esté orientada a alcanzar el idea de la vida cristiana!», declaró el cardenal Velasio de Paolis en su alocución al Tribunal Eclesiástico de Umbría el 27 de marzo de 2014. Para el cardenal Sarah, la idea de separar el Magisterio de la praxis pastoral, que podría evolucionar según las circunstancias, modos y pasiones, «es una forma de herejía, una peligrosa patología esquizofrénica» (La Stampa, 24 de febrero de 2015).
Gesù è con noi
In the western schism, Catholics lasted almost 40 years without knowing who the real pope was. Now what will we say about the heresies that the modernists introduced with a council that was not even dogmatic and that are leading people to apostasy.
Gesù è con noi
En el cisma occidental, los católicos duraron casi 40 años sin saber quién era el verdadero Papa. Ahora, qué diremos de las herejías que introdujeron los modernistas en un concilio que ni siquiera es dogmático y que están llevando a la gente a la apostasía.
Gesù è con noi
The Virgin de la Salette warned that the Church would be eclipsed.