Clicks434
We didn't get what we were promised. "Vatican II" was the bishops. The innovations were approved by the bishops or at the minimum not stopped by them.
Facts Not Lies
More of the results of inciting divergence within a cogent group and (successfully) reduce focus on the significant matters.

I was caught in it as well... so... I am as perfectly ME as I can be... improvement will always be needed to be 'perfect'.
Ultraviolet
The "Spirit of Vatican II" has much to answer for.
Facts Not Lies
I see reflections of Pope Pius XII in this one.
Ave Crux
Excellent summation.....