Janko333
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There's one thing God can never do....❤️
It costs God a lot of effort, to do everything for me. There's one thing God can never do, he can't stop loving me and you.
This alone will never change in his heart. God is able to forgive even the biggest sin, for him there is no sin that he cannot forgive because he loves infinitely.There's one thing God can never do, he can't stop loving me and you.
No matter what we’ve done or how rebellious we’ve been, God offers to forgive us for only one reason: He loves us: in spite of all our sins, He loves us. The Bible says, “I have loved you with an everlasting love” (Jeremiah 31:3).
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123jussi

The problem is never that God stops loving us . The problem is ,was ,and always will be we not loving Him. It is the Protestant thing to worry about what God is doing rather than what we are doing.

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God demonstrates and proves his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:8

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123jussi

Yes even when you are in hell!

mariamilucka

“Satan Hates Mercy” Jesus said, Who God is in His Essence, no one will fathom, neither the mind of angels nor of man. Get to know God by contemplating His attributes' Jesus said: The devils glorify My Justice but do not believe in My Goodness” Saint Maria Faustina Kowalska.

123jussi

If Satan does not believe in Christs goodness how can he hate His mercy? Can you hate something you don't believe in? Devil is smarter than that......more Faustina nonsense.

Janko333

123jussi, satan hates the mercy of Christ, because he forgives people, and he laid down his life. Satan cannot understand this because he does not love.

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john333

Beyond sick. This is what our governments are supporting.

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chris griffin

I appreciate your sincerity, but you are sincerely wrong.

Alex A

As often you are Chris!

chris griffin

@Alex A
For equally hateful to God are the ungodly and their ungodliness; for what was done will be punished together with the one who did it Wisdom 14:9-10
For the most High hateth sinners, and will repay vengeance unto the ungodly, and keepeth them against the mighty day of their punishment. Sirach 12:6
Myself and other good Catholics have proven this post wrong 3 times now and you have nothing but ignorant insult which proves your ignorance of God and his Catholic church.

mariamilucka

@chris griffin, whether you are Catholic or Protestant, God's mercy knows no bounds, all Christians recognize that. But the problem is with you: you have a problem with forgiveness, am I right?

O Jesus, keep me in holy fear, so that I may not waste graces. Help me to be faithful to the inspirations of the Holy Spirit.

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123jussi

Faustina is a fake and yes Christs perfect love will send you to hell if you do not also love Him.

chris griffin

This is a false post that is in serious error about God's love.

Janko333

123jussi, If God is love, he cannot refuse forgiveness to those who repent! According to Matthew 6:14-15, a person who doesn't forgive others will not be forgiven by God!
Murderer on the cross -
What we learn from the saved thief on the cross is that we are all sinners in need of a Savior, and no matter the number of our sins. Jesus answered the repentant thief with the most hopeful words possible: “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43).

Denis Efimov

"as God (according to the words of Scripture, Wisdom 11:21: “Thou hast ordered all things in measure, and number, and weight.”) has fixed for each the number of his days, the degrees of health and talent which he will give to him, so he has also determined the number of sins which he will pardon; and when this number is completed, he will pardon no more. ... In one place the Lord says that he restrained his vengeance against the Amorites, because the numbers of their sins was not as yet filled up. “For as yet the iniquities of the Amorites are not at the full” (Genesis 15:16). In another place he says, “I will not add anymore to have mercy on the house of Israel” (cf Hosea 1:6). Again he says “All the men who have tempted land” (Numbers 14:22, 23). “Thou hast,” says Job, “sealed up my offenses as it were in a bag” (Job 14:17). Sinners keep no account of their sins; but God keeps an account of them, that when the harvest is ripe–that is, when the number of sins is completed–he may take vengeance on them. “Put ye in the sickles; for the harvest is ripe” (Joel 3:13). In another place he says, “Be not without fear about sin forgiven, and add not sin to sin” (Sirach 5:5). As if he said, O sinner! You must tremble even on account of the sins which I have forgiven you; for if you add another, it may happen that this new sin, along with those which have been pardoned, may complete the number, and then there shall be no more mercy for you. “The Lord waiteth patiently, that, when the day of judgment shall come, he may punish them in the fullness of their sins” (2 Maccabees 6:14). God waits till the measure of iniquities is filled up, and then he chastises the sinner." (St. Alphonsus Liguori, Preparation for Death).

Denis Efimov

"Some sinners say, "But God is merciful." "Who," I ask, "denies it?" The mercy of God is infinite; but though His mercy is infinite, how many are cast into hell every day! "The Lord hath sent me to heal the contrite of heart."--Is. Ixi. 1. God heals those who have a good will. He pardons sins, but He cannot pardon the determination to commit sin. These sinners will also say, "I am young." You are young; but God counts not years, but sins. The number of sins which God pardons is not the same for all; some he pardons a hundred; others a thousand sins; others he sends to hell after the second sin. How many has the Lord condemned to eternal misery after the first sin! St. Gregory relates that a child of five years, for uttering a blasphemy, was condemned to hell. The most holy Virgin revealed to that great servant of God, Benedicta of Florence, that a girl twelve years old was damned after her first sin. A boy of eight years died after his first sin, and was lost. In the Gospel of St. Matthew we find that the Lord instantly cursed the fig-tree the first time he saw it without fruit. "May no fruit grow on thee forever. And immediately the fig-tree withered away."--Matt, xxi. 19. Another time God said, "For three crimes of Damascus, and for four, I will not convert it."--Amos i. 3. Perhaps some daring sinner may have the temerity to demand an account of God why He pardons some three sins, but not four. In this we must adore the judgments of God, and say with the apostle, "O depth of the riches, of the wisdom, and of the knowledge of God! How incomprehensible are His judgments, and unsearchable His ways!"--Rom. xi. 33. The Lord, says St. Augustine, knows whom He spares, and whom He does not spare. To those who receive mercy He gives it gratuitously; from those who do not receive mercy, it is justly withheld.
The obstinate sinner may say, But I have so often offended God, and He has pardoned me; I also hope He will pardon me the sin which I intend to commit. But, I ask, must God spare you forever, because He has not hitherto chastised you? The measure shall be filled up, and vengeance shall come. Samson continued to allow himself to be deluded by Dalila, hoping that, as on former occasions, he would escape from the Philistines. "I will go out, as I did before, and shake myself"--Judges xvi. 20. But at last he was taken, and lost his life. "Say not, I have sinned, and what harm hath befallen me? "--Eccl. v. 4. Say not, says the Lord, I have committed so many sins, and God has not chastised me; "for the Most High is a patient rewarder; " (Ibid. ;)--that is, He will one day come and punish all; and the greater the mercy which He will have shown, the more severe shall be the chastisement which He will inflict. St. Chrysostom says, that God should be dreaded more when He bears with the obstinate sinner, than when He punishes him suddenly. Because, according to St Gregory, if they remain ungrateful, God punishes with the greatest rigor those whom He waits for with the greatest patience. And it often happens, adds the saint, that they whom God has borne with for a long time, die unexpectedly, and without time for repentance" (St. Alphonsus Liguori, On the Number of Sins You Commit).

Denis Efimov

"For God loveth none but him that dwelleth with wisdom" (Wis. 7, 8).
"Nothing prevents one and the same thing being loved under one aspect, while it is hated under another. God loves sinners in so far as they are existing natures; for they have existence and have it from Him. In so far as they are sinners, they have not existence at all, but fall short of it; and this in them is not from God. Hence under this aspect, they are hated by Him." (St. Thomas Aquinas, ST, 1, 20, 2, 4).

123jussi

Precisely!

123jussi

Proverbs,"I love them that love me,and they that in the early morning watch for me shall find me."

chris griffin

What is being promoted in this post is called: "Universal Love" ie God loves everybody all the time no matter what.
This is not true because the Church has never made it a formal teaching because the Bible says exactly the opposite...
"For equally hateful to God are the ungodly and their ungodliness; for what was done will be punished together with the one who did it" Wisdom 14:9-10
"For the most High hateth sinners, and will repay vengeance unto the ungodly, and keepeth them against the mighty day of their punishment." Sirach 12:6
and about 30 other passages if I had the time.
Yet, I will give you the proof positive from the mouth of Jesus himself...
"If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love." John 15:10
Jesus says he could have lost his Fathers love.

mccallansteve

Since God is love, he cannot stop loving us else He will cease to be what He is.

chris griffin

@mccallansteve...The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion. Psalm 11:5. Get a grip man

Janko333

@chris griffin, Does God intend this passage to be taken literally, or metaphorical? Some people prefer a literal interpretation of the Bible and defend it to extremes. I will ask you a question, if God is love, how can he hate?

chris griffin

@Janko333... Because God said "Hate what is evil" Romans 12:9 and He is perfect and hates with a perfect hatred.
What you are doing is promoting a theology that is never taught by the Catholic Church and denies the bible.

Janko333

@chris griffin, answer the question. If God is love, how can he hate?

Denis Efimov

"God loves all men and all creatures, inasmuch as He wishes them all some good; but He does not wish every good to them all. So far, therefore, as He does not wish this particular good - namely, eternal life - He is said to hate or reprobated them" (St. Thomas Aquinas, ST, 1, 23, 3, 1).
"Thus with us it is usual for an angry man to punish, so that punishment becomes an expression of anger. Therefore punishment itself is signified by the word anger, when anger is attributed to God" (1, 19, 11).
"How the devil must chuckle over the mushy charity held out as a bait to abet his own cause! To smother evil under an abundance of good is the tainted Catholic's favorite maxim... From the Gospel he is careful to cite only those texts flavored with milk and honey. The terrible invectives of Our Lord against Pharisaism astonish and confound him; they seem to be an excess of language on the part of our Divine Saviour" (Dr. Don Felix Sarda y Salvany).

Janko333

Denis Efimov, It is clear that God loves all people. If God does not grant someone some good, it is only because it would not be beneficial to his salvation. But let's get down to the nitty-gritty: @chris griffin has a misguided biblical concept of God.
He claims that God hates, even with a passion. God hated the practices of the prodigal son, but he still loved his person.
He retaineth not His anger for ever, because He delighteth in mercy. And Thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. Micah 7:18. So I ask: If God is love, how can he hate?

Denis Efimov

It seems to me that Chris never claimed that God hates passionately. As to the question of how God hates, if He is love, St. Thomas, in my opinion, has given an exhaustive answer in the passages I have quoted.

Janko333

Denis Efimov, @Chris didn't understand God's love, I think he has trouble forgiving. God only hates sin! But as he judges sin – as he must! – the judgments terminate upon the person.
What this means in sum is this: God can both love and (hate) the same person, and in different ways. As Augustine said, “in a wonderful and divine manner, even when He hated us, He loved us; for He hated us, in so far as we were not what He Himself had made; and because our own iniquity had not in every part consumed His work, He knew at once both how, in each of us, to hate what we had done, and to love what He had done” (Lectures on…John, 2:461).
Naturally, when a person comes to faith they are no longer (hated) in any way, shape, or form.
God will necessarily hate the sin in the believer, but he cannot hate the believer.
Again, Augustine: “Seeing, then, that He hates nothing that He has made, who can worthily describe how much He loves the members of His Only-begotten?” (2:461). To hate the believer God would have to hate his Son, which is an ontological impossibility.
Our Love and Hate

As for our own reception of persons, we can also aim to both love and hate depending upon the person and the context.
Consider, for example, the attitude of the Psalmist (see also 139:19–22)
“I hate those who pay regard to worthless idols, but I trust in the LORD” (Psalm 31:6).
“I hate the assembly of evildoers, and I will not sit with the wicked” (Psalm 26:5).
We can and must hate persons sin, but must exercise love towards a specific person. If I am in direct (or immediate) contact with an enemy, I have a duty to love him:
“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you” (Luke 6:27–28). God only hates sin!
Who is a God like unto Thee, who pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of His heritage? He retaineth not His anger for ever, because He delighteth in mercy. And Thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. Micah 7:18-20

Denis Efimov

It seems to me that we have neither the opportunity nor the necessity of avoiding the assertion that God hates both the sinner and his sin. For, firstly, Holy Scripture in several places directly affirms this. Secondly, the holy Doctors of the Church have spoken of this.
This is how Saint Alphonsus Liguori expresses it:
"The Lord does not hate any of his creatures: he does not hate the tiger, the viper, or the toad. ”For thou lovest all things that are, and hatest none of the things which thou hast made." (Wis. xi. 25.) But he necessarily hates sinners. ”Thou hatest all the workers of iniquity." (Ps. v. 7.) God cannot but hate sin, which is his enemy and diametrically opposed to his will; and therefore, in hating sin, he necessarily hates the sinner who is united with his sin. “But to God the wicked and his wickedness are hateful alike.” (Wis. xiv. 9.)" (St. Alphonsus Liguori, Sermons for all the Sundays in the year, 5).

Denis Efimov

Concerning our love for our neighbors, St. Thomas explains:
"By the commandment of God (Exodus 20:12) we must honor our parents—as united to us in nature and kinship. But we must hate them in so far as they prove an obstacle to our attaining the perfection of Divine justice" (ST, 2, 2, 34, 3, 1).
"Two things may be considered in the sinner: his nature and his guilt. According to his nature, which he has from God, he has a capacity for happiness, on the fellowship of which charity is based, as stated above (Article 3; II-II:23:5), wherefore we ought to love sinners, out of charity, in respect of their nature.
On the other hand their guilt is opposed to God, and is an obstacle to happiness. Wherefore, in respect of their guilt whereby they are opposed to God, all sinners are to be hated, even one's father or mother or kindred, according to Luke 12:26. For it is our duty to hate, in the sinner, his being a sinner, and to love in him, his being a man capable of bliss; and this is to love him truly, out of charity, for God's sake.
The prophet hated the unjust, as such, and the object of his hate was their injustice, which was their evil. Such hatred is perfect, of which he himself says (Psalm 138:22): "I have hated them with a perfect hatred." Now hatred of a person's evil is equivalent to love of his good. Hence also this perfect hatred belongs to charity." (ST, 2, 2, 25, 6).

Janko333

He retaineth not His anger for ever, because He delighteth in mercy. And Thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. Micah 7:18-20. I will ask you a question: Is there a sin that God could not forgive?

Denis Efimov

Yes, "Or will God forget to shew mercy? or will he in his anger shut up his mercies?" (Ps. 77:9). With due repentance, the Lord will forgive any sin.

Janko333

Yes, there Is No Forgiveness Without Repentance. The unrepentant rich man found himself in the torments of hell.
But there is Vicarious Repentance and National Sins. What is vicarious atonement?
It insinuates that we bare the burdens. Christ is our example.
He asks the Father to forgive those who don't understand their sin, for they know not what they do.
Even in the Old Testament, prophets such as Isaiah spoke of the Messiah’s taking the penalty for sin on our behalf (Isaiah 53:5).
Intercessory Prayer - The Power of Intercessory Prayer. Through intercessory prayer, you can subdue the forces of hell and render Satan powerless.
First, then, BY WAY OP COMMENDING THE EXERCISE, let me remind you that Intercessory prayer has been practised by all the best of God's saints.
The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working” (James 5:16, ESV). God manifests Himself in many ways when praying together and for each other.17. 6. 2021
Elijah was a human being, even as we are. He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years. Again he prayed, and the heavens gave rain, and the earth produced its crops. James 5:17
Intercessors can become God’s channels of blessing to others. Abraham was called of God not only to be blessed but also to be a blessing. No man liveth unto himself when once he has the love of Christ in him. It is enough for them if they hear the Word, if they be saved, if they get to heaven.
The first martyr, Stephen, followed His Lord example when, as he was being stoned to death, also prayed that God would forgive his murderers.
Moses changed God’s mind. (Ex 32:32, Ps 106:23)
If the nation intercedes with repentance, God will forgive the nation and heal the land. (2 Chr 7:14)
The Bible commands us to pray for one another, “Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed.
In her diary, St. Faustina speaks of praying for her own country of Poland and calling upon Jesus’s mercy to hold back the hand of his justice. She says, “I often pray for Poland, but I see that God is very angry with it because of its ingratitude. ... I constantly remind God of promises of His mercy. When I see His anger, I throw myself trustingly into the abyss of His mercy, and I plunge all Poland in it, and then He cannot use His justice.” (Paragraph 1188) 4 Ways St. Faustina Shows Us How to Pray for Our Country
Our Lady Of Fatima said: “Many souls go to Hell because there are none to sacrifice themselves and to pray for them.
As a Catholics,we are obliged to pray, fast, make sacrifices for the salvation of the Souls. Before we pray, we are to forgive.
O JESUS, it is for love of Thee, for the conversion of sinners
and in reparation for the sins committed against
the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
EUCHARISTIC PRAYER
MOST HOLY TRINITY, I adore Thee! My God, My God,
I love Thee in the Most Blessed Sacrament

Denis Efimov

Vicarious repentance for another person will not in itself bring a person to heaven if that person does not repent. However, by our prayers we can, firstly, reduce the debt of temporary punishment of another person, and secondly, ask for the grace of repentance and conversion for him. If after this, that person does not reject these graces by his own will, he will repent and will be able to get to heaven.

Janko333

sure, we can ask God for the grace of repentance, and the final and free decision must be made by man.
First Peter 4:8 says, “Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.” The best example of a love that covers sin is Jesus’ sacrificial death on our behalf.
Our Lady Of Fatima said: “Many souls go to Hell because there are none to sacrifice themselves and to pray for them.

Denis Efimov

Yes, of course, our prayers are very, very important not only for ourselves, but also for other people, for nations and countries, and for the whole world. As St. Augustine and St. Alphonsus Liguori said, the Lord wants to give grace, but He gives some graces only through prayer. Thank you for the conversation. May the Lord bless you, and may you always be accompanied by the motherly love and help of the Virgin Mary!