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Vatican may prohibit female alter (sic) service

Vatican may prohibit female alter (sic) service

Published:
Tuesday, October 14, 2003
Updated: Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Only nine years after the Vatican gave women permission to serve beside their male counterparts at the altar, a new proposal threatens to force them back into the crowd.

On Sept. 23, the Italian Catholic monthly, "Jesus," released advanced text of an article featuring excerpts from a draft document, or directive, written by the Vatican congregations for Divine Worship and the Sacraments and for the Doctrine of the Faith. Distributed on June 5, the document was an expansion on the papal encyclical published in April that cut down on abuses during Mass, specifically during Communion.

According to reports, in addition to banning applause and dancing at Mass - both of which often occur at papal services - the document specified that the use of female altar servers should be avoided "unless there is a just pastoral cause," and that "priests should never feel obliged to seek girls for this function."

However, both the Catholic News Service, the media extension of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), and the National Catholic Reporter (NCR) stated that the directive was almost immediately sent back for revisions.

"There are apparently still many chauvinists in the Vatican who think that males are inherently superior to females in the eyes of God," said Father Richard McBrien, professor of theology and Crowley-O'Brien Chairman of Theology at Notre Dame.

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On Guard
Be careful..... don't go overboard about the REASONS that woman do not belong in the Sanctuary of our Churches. It is NOT because they are inferior to men in intellect etc., it is like Bishop Sheen has said, "Neither are inferior or superior...they just have different rolls to play".
Yes, they should have children, be home for them etc., but they need not be considered mentally inferior for …More
Be careful..... don't go overboard about the REASONS that woman do not belong in the Sanctuary of our Churches. It is NOT because they are inferior to men in intellect etc., it is like Bishop Sheen has said, "Neither are inferior or superior...they just have different rolls to play".
Yes, they should have children, be home for them etc., but they need not be considered mentally inferior for doing so.
Our Blessed Mother is a prime example of a Woman being Extremely capable without being publicly demonstrative.
Should we not try to emulate her?? Let us encourage Altar Boys and vocations to the priesthood. We need good Priests more that anything right now. Let us hope and pray they have better "examples" now.
Saraash
Personally, I'm against women who serve at the altar at all in any way, some of them dress provocatively, and some look even like prostitutes, and I'm sorry to say that but it is the truth. Unfortunately, some women do not have the sense of respect for the priests or the Lord in the tabernacle, it is horrible to see women dressing so seductively and walking on high heels in the church, and …More
Personally, I'm against women who serve at the altar at all in any way, some of them dress provocatively, and some look even like prostitutes, and I'm sorry to say that but it is the truth. Unfortunately, some women do not have the sense of respect for the priests or the Lord in the tabernacle, it is horrible to see women dressing so seductively and walking on high heels in the church, and wearing tight pants or tight dresses with cleavage.

I only saw once a priest who was around his 70's and during the homily he yelled at them, and he even told them that he would not tolerate women dressed as prostitutes 🤦 ; he was very, very upset, and entirely correct. he was a true priest, a true son of God , and a true man, a very inspiring person.

In a way we were all shocked, but nobody dare to go say anything to the priest after mass because HE WAS RIGHT. You looked at them (These women) and the first thought that came in my mind was, and the mind of other people was....??? do they have any shame at all?

I mean their dresses were very nice, and in a way elegant, but very inviting to men; all men were cheeking them out as they walked in the church. I can tell you this for sure, that this priest does not have any women, nor "altar girls" as they called them today, ... gosh... serving in the altar AT ALL. 🤬 🤬 🤬

This is something that some rebel, liberal or feminist women do not like, but in order to keep the church clean of immoralities I think is best that someone (men and women) speak up the TRUTH instead of preaching a NEW GOSPEL of mediocrity based on human love, or let those people be Anathema as Saint Paul declared.

I do hope the Church gets back on its feet again, and more priests behave like sons of God and not otherwise. I will pray so that the church makes this announcement and I will ask other people to pray for it, it's time to clean the church of all the filth. God Bless.

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wirewrapper
Good! We need priest are young boys and girls don't naturally get along with one another. It is not until puberity that you have to keep them seperated, before that they mostly tend to mix like oil and water. Allowing girls in this function only drove out many boys. Hopefully the Church can make a recovery.

Now I will say that knowing the good old USCCB and I wonder how obediant they would actua…More
Good! We need priest are young boys and girls don't naturally get along with one another. It is not until puberity that you have to keep them seperated, before that they mostly tend to mix like oil and water. Allowing girls in this function only drove out many boys. Hopefully the Church can make a recovery.

Now I will say that knowing the good old USCCB and I wonder how obediant they would actually be to such a thing. They will probably say, "We are Americans, and As Americans we need to vote on the matter." THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR DEBATE AND DUE PROCESS! The USCCB needs to learn to DO AS IT IS TOLD!
Temperance
I say kick all women out of the Sanctuary!!! Unless your a man get away from the alter!!! Do NOT enter!
Lol, did I offend any Feminists?! I pray I did! 😜
franciscaa
Lesbians don't have anything with not serving in the altars. I think is good if only men or boys serve at the altar.

I say it would be excellent! 👏
JimmyG
Is it any wonder these girls are turning into lesbians,..when you even have the Church allowing them to do what has always been the male's position and role in assisting. Teach your daughters to cook, clean, sew and everything else that God intended a woman to be. And maybe even Remain a Virgin until she's married?? think thats a possiblilty?? Stay home with your children.
pimienka
,,,, banning applause and dancing at Mass - both of which often occur at papal services ""
would Jesus bann to be joyfull near Him???
I doubt that strongly.

Pater Marcelo Rossi is example of real joy from Jesus presence.. 😜

,,,,use of female altar servers should be avoided "unless there is a just pastoral cause," and that "priests should never feel obliged to seek girls for this function.""""

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,,,, banning applause and dancing at Mass - both of which often occur at papal services ""
would Jesus bann to be joyfull near Him???
I doubt that strongly.

Pater Marcelo Rossi is example of real joy from Jesus presence.. 😜

,,,,use of female altar servers should be avoided "unless there is a just pastoral cause," and that "priests should never feel obliged to seek girls for this function.""""

Old testament says about women not allowed in temple while menstrual cycle and fourty days after birth giving...

but also says to eat ,,unleaven'' bread during Easter pascha

do we accept all Gods word or just what we pick as convenient to us, I wonder... ☕
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It does not inspire confidence when the headline has misspellings.
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"unless there is a just pastoral cause,"

At first I was very excited to read this, then I saw we have the usual open-ended escape clause.
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The Catholic Church is being subverted by Marxist ideology-—the “Social” Justice crew-—…More
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It does not inspire confidence when the headline has misspellings.
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"unless there is a just pastoral cause,"

At first I was very excited to read this, then I saw we have the usual open-ended escape clause.
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The Catholic Church is being subverted by Marxist ideology-—the “Social” Justice crew-—they injected women into traditional male roles——inside the Church-—to emasculate the traditionally very masculine Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church is about doing Battle-—the Battle for Souls against Satan. They need males for this role.

Masculine traits like that in St. Paul-—are necessary for survival of the Church—if you feminize boys-—blur male/female roles (women in combat/firefighters, altar girls, etc)-—boys learn to NOT put women on a pedestal and be the “protector”-—the “Fighter” willing to sacrifice for family which is needed for survival of cultures and maturity in males.

Truth (which the Catholic Church is always supposed to be for) states that there is a different role for males and females (biology proves it, too). Marxists want to erase the differences and confuse the children so anything becomes “right”——the Catholic Church is infiltrated.

Blurring the roles of males and females ruins Catholic Theology, which refers to the “Bride” of Christ, God the Father, etc. It makes it hard for children to understand the underlying meaning of Catholic Theology.

Men are not “growing up” (no decent role models and healthy male bonding (like in Boy Scouts and as altar boys) ... it is intentional...the Leftist plan to collapse Western Civilization and they need to destroy Christianity to do it.