No, Rob, not the Vatican. It was that sorry excuse for a shepherd you have in Austin

The spineless jellyfish who was "just following orders" like a good little minion... he's to blame... Bishop Joe Steve Vásquez (Bishop of Austin & Apostolic Administrator of Tyler, Texas) twitter.com …More
The spineless jellyfish who was "just following orders" like a good little minion... he's to blame... Bishop Joe Steve Vásquez (Bishop of Austin & Apostolic Administrator of Tyler, Texas)
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Slave of the Immaculata
Recognize and Resist is a heretical stance. If you believe this bishop to be the valid authority of the diocese of Austin, you must obey his directives. If you claim that Francis is the pope of the Catholic Church, there is no higher authority and his directives must be submitted to. Stop this absolutely pathetic and effeminate hand wringing and read some documents on the Papacy. Your R&Rs stance …More
Recognize and Resist is a heretical stance. If you believe this bishop to be the valid authority of the diocese of Austin, you must obey his directives. If you claim that Francis is the pope of the Catholic Church, there is no higher authority and his directives must be submitted to. Stop this absolutely pathetic and effeminate hand wringing and read some documents on the Papacy. Your R&Rs stance is not Catholic. Be men, educate yourselves and please stop whining.
The Wandering Recluse
I take it you see Vatican II as a good thing and the Novus Ordo as the true Church.
V.R.S.
No, it is a Catholic stance. Sedevacantists also use it when it suits them as in case of liturgical reforms of Pope Pius XII.
Slave of the Immaculata
@TheWandering No, quite the contrary.
The Wandering Recluse
@Slaves Then you would know that if the Pope is an anti-pope, a heretic, we are not obliged to --as you say -- "submit to him".
Slave of the Immaculata
Indeed.
Ivan Tomas
He who does not resist surrenders.
He who surrenders without a fight is a loser even before the challenges come.
How can such a person be considered a defender of the Faith and a guardian of the flock entrusted to him?
We will recognize such people by the fact that they always keep telling their sheep, keep bleating and grazing, but they themselves do not actively do their job.
Let alone proactively!
V.R.S.
Exactly. Today Vatican has no power whatsoever to take away the ancient liturgical rite of the Holy Roman Church.
Slave of the Immaculata
A true Pope cannot be judged by anyone and his directives must be submitted to. As Catholics we cannot sift things the pope decrees for things we agree with. Since the things Francis has decreed are against Catholic teaching, he is clearly a false pope.