@Ultraviolet lol, the Pope Francis gaslighting will be be on this one.
Honestly @philosopher and in all fairness to @thomasvalle I don't believe he's gaslighting. He seems to be a genuine, well-intentioned, (if horribly misguided) Francis apologist, and all-around modernist. Why on earth he's on GTV is entirely beyond my powers as a seer. At the risk of a motorcycle metaphor, if you ride a Suzuki, you don't join a Harley forum.