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Anti-Semitism: Archbishop Denies That Christ Saves Jews

Jews don’t need Christ to be saved and thus the Council Church - which has stopped any missionary activity decades ago - should stop evangelising Jews, homosexualist Chieti Archbishop Bruno Forte, 72, said on April 4 at the Roman Angelicum.

For Forte, the conversion of Saint Peter and Paul must be a mishap. He came up with the tale of two coexisting covenants, one of Moses by which Jews are saved, and the other of Christ which saves the Christians. It can be presumed that in Forte's religion Moslems, Hindus, and Buddhist also don't need Christ.

The problem: The New Covenant is not a second covenant but the fulfilment of the Old Covenant which therefore doesn't exist in its unfulfilled form anymore.

A young man embarrassed Forte with the truism that Christ and the [Jewish] Apostles [who were evangelised by Christ] evangelised the Jews (video below). Having no arguments, Forte replied evasively. He said that "Christ is a Jew" and following Christ means loving his people and their way of life.

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la verdad prevalece
Bruno Forte is an apostate
Council of Florence (XVII Ecumenical)
No one living outside the Catholic Church, not even the Jews, can participate in eternal life
It firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart “into everlasting fireMore
Bruno Forte is an apostate

Council of Florence (XVII Ecumenical)

No one living outside the Catholic Church, not even the Jews, can participate in eternal life

It firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart “into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels” (Mt 25:41), unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock. (Denzinger-Hünermann 1351. Council of Florence. Bull Cantata Domino, February 4, 1442)

Saint John Chrysostom

The Jews when be forgiven neither by circumcision nor by other deeds, but only by Baptism

“For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins” (Rom 11:27). Not when they are circumcised, not when they sacrifice, not when they do the other deeds of the Law, but when they attain to the forgiveness of sins. If then this hath been promised, but has never yet happened in their case, nor have they ever enjoyed the remission of sins by baptism, certainly it will come to pass. Hence he proceeds, “For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance” (Rom 11:29). (Saint John Chrysostom, Homily XIX, Letter to the Romans, no. 6)

Saint Thomas Aquinas

It is a mortal sin to observe the old rites after the Passion of Christ

The Apostle says (Gal 5:2): “If you be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.” But nothing save mortal sin hinders us from receiving Christ’s fruit. Therefore since Christ’s Passion it is a mortal sin to be circumcised, or to observe the other legal ceremonies.
All ceremonies are professions of faith, in which the interior worship of God consists. Now man can make profession of his inward faith, by deeds as well as by words:
and in either profession, if he make a false declaration, he sins mortally. Now, though our faith in Christ is the same as that of the fathers of old; yet, since they came before Christ, whereas we come after Him, the same faith is expressed in different words, by us and by them. For by them was it said: “Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son,” where the verbs are in the future tense: whereas we express the same by means of verbs in the past tense, and say that she “conceived and bore.” In like manner the ceremonies of the Old Law betokened Christ as having yet to be born and to suffer: whereas our sacraments signify Him as already born and having suffered. Consequently, just as it would be a mortal sin now for anyone, in making a profession of faith, to say that Christ is yet to be born, which the fathers of old said devoutly and truthfully; so too it would be a mortal sin now to observe those ceremonies which the fathers of old fulfilled with devotion and fidelity. Such is the teaching Augustine (Contra Faust. XIX, 16), who says: “It is no longer promised that He shall be born, shall suffer and rise again, truths of which their sacraments were a kind of image: but it is declared that He is already born, has suffered and risen again; of which our sacraments, in which Christians share, are the actual representation.” (Saint Thomas Aquinas. Summa Theologica I-II, q.103, a.4, s.c. /co)

1 Corinthians 16:22 If any man love not our Lord Jesus Christ, let him be anathema, maranatha.
Jeffrey Ade
But that's the old theology:)
DrMaria
Too bad we live in a time when such heretical thought is not punished - and such clergy aren't defrocked! This so-called bishop represents the spirit of anti-Christ.
Alex A
@Paul Higgins-All traditionalists? You know that to be true because of???
Alex A
@Paul Higgins
It's a danger of all, who perceive their point of view is the only one. For Traditionalists, they are absolutely correct in adhering to the Church's magisterium when following edicts on faith and morals, such edicts come to us via Christ himself. Should one then 'accuse' the very founder of the Catholic faith of being, what ever it is, that you perceive 'traditionalists' are.......…More
@Paul Higgins
It's a danger of all, who perceive their point of view is the only one. For Traditionalists, they are absolutely correct in adhering to the Church's magisterium when following edicts on faith and morals, such edicts come to us via Christ himself. Should one then 'accuse' the very founder of the Catholic faith of being, what ever it is, that you perceive 'traditionalists' are.......zealots? Weren't the Apostles also called 'zealots' by their detractors? Such a word is banded around with little, if any, thought given to its original meaning or context.
Ultraviolet
It came from modernists @Paul Higgins A modernist traditionalist is a contradiction in terms. :P
Alex A
As per usual, Ultraviolet is succinct in his comment. Stupid, he is not. However, if by a stretch of one's imagination he is, as you assert, being stupid, then, where does that leave you and me?
Ultraviolet
@Paul Higgins Your "point" is your usual traditionalist bashing as a post-hoc justification for the Novus Ordo. You're a textbook example of the "catholic" it created: Loud, opinionated, ignorant of your own faith, dabbling in pagan faiths (dat karma). resentful of tradition, a follower of a religion where dogma is whatever YOU decide, absent any proof beyond your big mouth.
Ultraviolet
Those are examples of your "point", not the point itself. Try again, slugger. That pop-tart diet is leaving you winded.
"Jesus said there would be bad people in the Church."
Did He? Quote Scripture. Let's see if Jesus said what Jimmy said. :D
"So when I say all are prone to it, I'm not accusing Jesus of anything, I'm echoing him."
Catholics capitalize the pronoun "Him" when referring to Jesus …More
Those are examples of your "point", not the point itself. Try again, slugger. That pop-tart diet is leaving you winded.

"Jesus said there would be bad people in the Church."
Did He? Quote Scripture. Let's see if Jesus said what Jimmy said. :D

"So when I say all are prone to it, I'm not accusing Jesus of anything, I'm echoing him."

Catholics capitalize the pronoun "Him" when referring to Jesus. Typical Novus Ordo disrespect.

"And many traditionalists are anti-Semitics."

Prove it. A poll would be nice. Otherwise, it's more of your "because I said so" problem.

Most sexually abusive priests are Novus Ordo. Funny how that doesn't factor into your Novus Ordo perception of "bad people in the Church".

...as I said, your "point" is the same old traditionalist bashing you do around here.
mccallansteve
Vat II church believes that everyone goes to Heaven.
James A Mitchell
Though VII is misleading on the possibilities for salvation outside the church, VII does not teach universal salvation. Before going trad, I was a Novus Ordite for many years and no priests were teaching universal salvation in any of the parishes I attended in different dioceses.
sahmommn
Yes this is antisemetic - denying them the need of the Catholic faith for their salvation
V.R.S.
It is also anti-semantic: either Christ is the Savior or He is not.
V.R.S.
Time has come for the conciliar church to assume that all Apostles plus St. Paul were converted illicitly, illegitimately & invalidly and to apologize its elder bruders in faith for all inconvenience and inappropriateness.
Jeffrey Ade
I think they actually believe it! The rest is the old theology:)
HerzMariae
The only conversion permitted by Vatican II:
John A Cassani
@Chat Chartreux They don’t really want to convert us. Liberal (c)atholics have reserved belief in Hell, just for Trads.
J G Tasan
I believe in Him! 😇
Roberto 55
This guy called himself a theologian and christian (not catholic) etc. He is not catholic bishop and his answer is like marxist ideologist.
Alex A
Who are you referring to when you write "This guy....>
Roberto 55
To abp.
Louis IX
All are apostates.
Werte
Cardinal Marx says the Church must accept homosexual sex acts
Archbishop Bruno Forte says the Jews don't need to convert to Christ to be saved
The Superior General of the Jesuits Father Arturo Sosa says the devil doesn't exist
DrMaria
None of these folks you listed above are Catholics - they are not even Christians! They are all apostates!