No, I'm sorry your Eminence, you are in error on this point. The mandate of Heaven delivered by Our Lady of Fatima on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity was very clear on this point. THE CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA [JUST RUSSIA AND ONLY RUSSIA] TO THE IMMACULATE HEART BY THE POPE TOGETHER WITH ALL THE CATHOLIC BISHOPS - NOTHING MORE. Therefore, the additions in the consecration of "ourselves, …More
No, I'm sorry your Eminence, you are in error on this point. The mandate of Heaven delivered by Our Lady of Fatima on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity was very clear on this point. THE CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA [JUST RUSSIA AND ONLY RUSSIA] TO THE IMMACULATE HEART BY THE POPE TOGETHER WITH ALL THE CATHOLIC BISHOPS - NOTHING MORE. Therefore, the additions in the consecration of "ourselves, the Church and all humanity, especially Ukraine" will not do at all.

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DrMaria
You are totally right, Live Mike! Certainly the individual prayers of faithful Catholics, who got caught up in this delusion, were not wasted. However, the Consecration Our Lady asked for was not accomplished. There has been no conversion of Russia to the Catholic Faith. Furthermore, the world and Church situation have gotten worse since the bogus-cration. A true, faithful Catholic pope will yet …More
You are totally right, Live Mike! Certainly the individual prayers of faithful Catholics, who got caught up in this delusion, were not wasted. However, the Consecration Our Lady asked for was not accomplished. There has been no conversion of Russia to the Catholic Faith. Furthermore, the world and Church situation have gotten worse since the bogus-cration. A true, faithful Catholic pope will yet do the Consecration - however, Our Lord said to Sr. Lucia, "it will be late!" The question is how late -- how much damage to the Church and the world will have gone on at that point - all because of disobedience and apostasy from the top of the Church? We are now living through that time - let's keep praying the Rosary and keeping the First Saturdays, as Our Lady asked. As She has told us, "in the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph!" Our Lady always keeps Her Promises!
Malki Tzedek
Live Mike I think you are entirely correct. With all due respect to Cardinal Burke this appears to be the same kind of fudging of carrying out a pretty straight forward task given by our Lady which has been the case every time it has been claimed to have been done in the past. Why this is so difficult to acknowledge baffles me. Those who purport to disbelieve in the Fatima appearances won't care …More
Live Mike I think you are entirely correct. With all due respect to Cardinal Burke this appears to be the same kind of fudging of carrying out a pretty straight forward task given by our Lady which has been the case every time it has been claimed to have been done in the past. Why this is so difficult to acknowledge baffles me. Those who purport to disbelieve in the Fatima appearances won't care if it is done, and those who are rankled by it being done merely serve to confirm it's authenticity.
Live Mike
God hears and answers every prayer, but because of the failure to do precisely what God wants - no one should think the answer could be "yes"
SHJ-IHM
He said the prayer will be heard. He didn't say the prayer fulfilled Our Lady's request at Fatima.
mccallansteve
Our Lady was quite specific on how the consecration was to be done. No popes have obeyed her command to do it but a future one will.
Rafał_Ovile
Which future pope you prophesize to do so and given what percentage of probability to be really elected? Or may be is it like the sede-vacantists waiting since 1958 for election of a potential future Catholic pope and risk sleeping through the Apocalypse?
Veritas Imperat
It seems that those 'conservative' DUBIA Cardinals... have totally lost it! They should just unvest themselves from "grandmother's lace" and follow, instead, the "spirits that Bergoglio was invoking in Canada! DUBIA cardinals, alright! 🤔
Rafał_Ovile
Did Cardinal Burke see present pope Benedict XVI do consecration of Russia? : Surgent enim pseudochristi, et pseudoprophetae : et dabunt signa magna, et prodigia, ita ut in errorem inducantur ( si fieri potest) etiam electi. Mt 24:
Russia has already been consecrated by Pius XII and John Paul II what s. Lucia confirmed satisfied Heaven during the latter's pontificate. After JP II's consecration …More
Did Cardinal Burke see present pope Benedict XVI do consecration of Russia? : Surgent enim pseudochristi, et pseudoprophetae : et dabunt signa magna, et prodigia, ita ut in errorem inducantur ( si fieri potest) etiam electi. Mt 24:
Russia has already been consecrated by Pius XII and John Paul II what s. Lucia confirmed satisfied Heaven during the latter's pontificate. After JP II's consecration Soviet Union collapsed and turned away from atheistic communism... Now world seems to be going (or is) into Apocalypse after which Immaculate Heart will Triumph...
Just me
@Rafał_Ovile How can you fool yourself so badly? Where is our peace? The fall of the soviet union meant nothing. Because it didn't stop communism from spreading throughout the world. Where is our peace? When did you see it all happen? Did I sleep through it? No! I did not. Because there never has been peace. The world has gotten so evil, that there is hardly any good left in it. Boys being …More
@Rafał_Ovile How can you fool yourself so badly? Where is our peace? The fall of the soviet union meant nothing. Because it didn't stop communism from spreading throughout the world. Where is our peace? When did you see it all happen? Did I sleep through it? No! I did not. Because there never has been peace. The world has gotten so evil, that there is hardly any good left in it. Boys being forced and talked into being girls and girls being talked and forced into being boys. You call confusion and illness peace?

Either that woman whom you call Sister Lucia is a liar, or you are saying Our Holy Mother and Christ is a liar. Which is it? If Russia was consecrated To The Immaculate Heart of Mary, "We would not have The Great Chastisement"! There would be peace instead. As The Mother of GOD and Christ said there will be.

"God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The [First World] war is going to end; if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that He is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the communion of reparation on the first Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace. If not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world."

If it is done.... many souls would be saved? I think many souls are have and still are being damned because communism is all throughout the world now. Even in America! And let's not forget China either. There has been nothing but unrest. antifa and blm with them burning and destroying everything in sight. and all the masons and evil that are causing nothing but sickness and death with many people throughout the world. Or do you deny this? And why is The Catholic Church being persecuted more than ever now? How many Priests and religious and lay people have been murdered this year alone? Too many to count I am sure. Many people are without hope and many in despair. Abortions have been too many. When there should have been none for decades now. Not have gotten worse. Some states refuse to acknowledge the over turning or roe and wade. And they will set up their states where other states prohibit it. Where is the peace of all these unborn how have been and still being murdered?

She said, "If" Russia would be converted, there will be peace. But if not, then comes The Great Chastisement. You have it all backwards. And jpll even admitted he never did it. That it was not fulfilled. Yet you keep insisting it was done? Are you trying to convince yourself? Because most of us know it has never been done. Pay close attention to what Our Holy Mother said to Sister Lucia. It was never ever accepted. Again, even jpll admitted it was not done. I wonder why Our Saintly Little Lucia would lie like that? Because I know Our Holy Mother and Christ would not. When they say Russia would be converted and the world would have peace, It would be immediately. Not after The Great Chastisement. Because there would be no Great Chastisement. Consecrating Russia will prevent it. Not cause it.
Credo .
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Live Mike
@Rafał_Ovile "Has Russia been converted to Catholicism?"
Just me
@Credo . I think we have a lot in common on many things.
But this is one thing I am not on board with. Well two actually. This person "tries" hard to reach for straws. Many of those things prevented or stopped was by The Holy Rosary. Not by any Consecration to Russia. Look around you. The full picture. Not little things here and there that were stopped. But the full picture.
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@Credo . I think we have a lot in common on many things.

But this is one thing I am not on board with. Well two actually. This person "tries" hard to reach for straws. Many of those things prevented or stopped was by The Holy Rosary. Not by any Consecration to Russia. Look around you. The full picture. Not little things here and there that were stopped. But the full picture.

As I told Rafai_Ovile There is no true peace. No where can I find it. Our Holy Mother said, "If" The Consecration is "Not" done. Then there will be wars, persecution of the Church and so on. "If" it is "Not Done"! And so, it is obvious it is not done. Or we would not have any Chastisement at all. When Our Holy Mother speaks of Conversion, She is referring to The Conversion of The Holy Catholic Church. There is no other meaning. People can't make up or see what they want. It is what it is. Not want we want to see or believe.

What Christ and His Holy Mother said to do, was never ever done. No matter how much we try to make it our way. Consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart. Period! No more, no less. When Heaven says something, it is what they are saying. They are not asking anyone to add or remove a thing. But just as they say. None of these so called Popes have done exactly as Heaven ordered it to be done. Once Russia is converted to The True Faith of The Holy Catholic Church, then Our Mother's Immaculate Heart will triumph. Not until then.

“In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph and there will be a period of peace.”

In the end, meaning even though it will not be done as they are told or should do it. It will be done anyhow..... in the end! It is also said, that the consecration will be done in the middle of the war. There is no war right now. But there will be soon enough. It will hit us out of nowhere. It is said Putin has cancer and is very sick. I hope it is not true. But that is what they say. If he dies, that is when it will happen for sure. Why? Because Putin has great patients. He knows he can destroy whole countries. If he wishes to do so. But he does not. Many have said, he has all the rights in the world to call war. But still he hasn't. I hope this rumor is not true. I hope he is doing good.

I guess for some who still think it is done, they will find out it was not when they are, "hopefully" in Heaven. Or even better, very soon!

The Holy Rosary is very powerful. there are many stories since The Holy Rosary was given to St. Dominic, many wonderful things have happened. But this is much more serious. This is a full country to be converted. And very specific things were told in order to have it done. No one can deviate from any of it. Nor add to it.

Russia gets converted, the whole world will have peace. Not in a hundred years, not in 10 nor even 5. But immediately. Like the stories of healing and calming of seas and storms, ending of wars and converting many people at one time, etc. That is how Heaven works.
la verdad prevalece
Bergoglio is an apostate who is challenging God and the Church. A Promoter of gender ideology and abettor of predatory homosexuals. And does anyone still believe that a soul-slaying apostate can make a valid consecration? That means that Burke believes Bergoglio's deception and the Bible warns of the seductive power of the son of perdition who makes people believe his deception.
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Bergoglio is an apostate who is challenging God and the Church. A Promoter of gender ideology and abettor of predatory homosexuals. And does anyone still believe that a soul-slaying apostate can make a valid consecration? That means that Burke believes Bergoglio's deception and the Bible warns of the seductive power of the son of perdition who makes people believe his deception.
John 9:31 Now we know that God doth not hear sinners: but if a man be a server of God, and doth his will, him he heareth.
Into The Desert
I am surprised that John Henry Westen did not object to this, as he was strongly against the efficacy of the consecration from the beginning.
Just me
And that is just another reason why I don't bother to listen to Burke. Haven't in a very long time. Most of the time, he doesn't know what he is talking about. Just like he insists the SSPX is in schism. And he is suppose to be a Canon Lawyer? I don't think so. berogoglio is not the Pope. He is not Catholic. How can a non Catholic imposter Pope Consecrate anything? He can't. Yes, Our Lord will …More
And that is just another reason why I don't bother to listen to Burke. Haven't in a very long time. Most of the time, he doesn't know what he is talking about. Just like he insists the SSPX is in schism. And he is suppose to be a Canon Lawyer? I don't think so. berogoglio is not the Pope. He is not Catholic. How can a non Catholic imposter Pope Consecrate anything? He can't. Yes, Our Lord will respond with hurrying in The Great Chastisement. Which is a good thing. But not for bergoglio and his people. And I wish he would stop calling that man Holy! There is nothing Holy about him.
Strong and Steadfast
God hears all our prayers. This one will be heard, too, as long as there wasn't an idolatrous inclusion.
That still doesn't mean that it did or did not fulfill Our Lady of Fatima's request.More
God hears all our prayers. This one will be heard, too, as long as there wasn't an idolatrous inclusion.

That still doesn't mean that it did or did not fulfill Our Lady of Fatima's request.
petrus100452
Amen. Personally I do not believe that it fulfilled Our Lady's request because Our Lady wanted the consecration (of Russia!) to avoid that Russia would spread it's errors all over the world (her own words). The consecration pope Francis did had not this intention. The opportunistic intention of the consecration of pope Francis was to end the war between Russia and Ukraine. But even if it was '…More
Amen. Personally I do not believe that it fulfilled Our Lady's request because Our Lady wanted the consecration (of Russia!) to avoid that Russia would spread it's errors all over the world (her own words). The consecration pope Francis did had not this intention. The opportunistic intention of the consecration of pope Francis was to end the war between Russia and Ukraine. But even if it was 'valid' in the eyes of Heaven, it still is too late. Russia has already spread it's errors all over the world and we are living in a world dominated by cultural Marxism. The consecration should have been done 60 years ago. God does not let himself be mocked. I believe, of course, that every sincere prayer is heard. Like the consecration of John Paul II in 1984, Although imperfect, it is generally believed that it obtained the fall of Communism in the end of the 80's.
la verdad prevalece
It's a joke right! Precisely the one who has spread communism and the anti-Catholic atheist ideology is the one who is going to consecrate Russia.
Strong and Steadfast
@la verdad prevalece That is the way God seems to work. St. Paul, who had previously been one of the greatest persecutors of Christians, became one of the greatest apostles. There are numerous examples of this throughout all of history.
There is still a chance for Francis to become a holy saint. God has worked greater miracles than that.More
@la verdad prevalece That is the way God seems to work. St. Paul, who had previously been one of the greatest persecutors of Christians, became one of the greatest apostles. There are numerous examples of this throughout all of history.

There is still a chance for Francis to become a holy saint. God has worked greater miracles than that.
la verdad prevalece
In 2012 Father Kramer and Father Guner warned that an anti Pope was not the one who was going to do the consecration but a true Pope after Pope Benedict XVI.
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la verdad prevalece
A counterfeit "consecration" made by a blasphemous satanist apostate who is corrupting young people with the satanic gender ideology. When Moses interceded for the people who worshiped the calf, Moses did not participate in the worship of the false idol. The Satanist worshiper of the Pachamama Bergoglio who disguises himself as the Pope to attack and contradict Catholic doctrine and defy the …More
A counterfeit "consecration" made by a blasphemous satanist apostate who is corrupting young people with the satanic gender ideology. When Moses interceded for the people who worshiped the calf, Moses did not participate in the worship of the false idol. The Satanist worshiper of the Pachamama Bergoglio who disguises himself as the Pope to attack and contradict Catholic doctrine and defy the laws of God has no spiritual authority to intercede for any human being, much less so that his parody is considered in heaven as a true consecration.