To begin with, something you should know, Marx was no german, was a jew. 2) As pope Leo XIII said, those "systems", capitalism and marxism, are twins and a plague for humanity, a plague of inmorality, materialism, an antropology of base passions, irrationality, etc. The claim of the bad ideas coming from Germany is childish, I already corrected that, Luther was an ockhamist, and Ockham was an oxoniensis, that is, from Oxford. Then, along came Wycliff. Last time, you told me that Ockham and Wycliff had nothing to do, since Luther was a monk and he was like an atom in space. OK, and the english and unitedstatetians that are protestant have no resposibility, according to you, it is all Luther... Oh, I get it, it's the german, no matter what. Even when the plagues coming from protestantism were spread through the entire world by England and the US. AND that includes drugs (opium wars, any one?), pornography, atheism, ETC. It's a shame and you should NOT speak like that of a country, especially, when yours is no innocent dove... Bonus: the US killed 3 to 5 million germans, from 1945 to 1948: in a country that had surrendered. And, then, gave away half Europe and China to the commies of Russia, which makes the US the main ally of satan in the spread of the errors of Russia. And the war was, supposedly, to save Poland from Hitler (only to give it away to Stalin, right?). Take that