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Pope: "The Earth is NOT a Valley of Tears"

With Christmas approaching, Pope Francis focused on the great “gift” of God in sending his Son, who came humbly as a baby in Bethlehem. “In Christmas, God reveals himself not as one who stands above …
The quote comes directly from the National Catholic Register.

“Think carefully about this: God comes to live with men; he chooses the earth as his dwelling in order to ... find where man passes his days in joy or in sorrow. Therefore, the earth is above all not a ‘valley of tears,’ but a place where God himself has pitched his tent,” Pope Francis said.

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The quote comes directly from the National Catholic Register.

“Think carefully about this: God comes to live with men; he chooses the earth as his dwelling in order to ... find where man passes his days in joy or in sorrow. Therefore, the earth is above all not a ‘valley of tears,’ but a place where God himself has pitched his tent,” Pope Francis said.

If you don't like it, take it up with them and lose your sarcastic attitude.
ACLumsden
You have misquoted the Holy Father! He said, "Therefore, earth is no longer only a valley of tears; rather, it is the place where God himself has pitched his tent,”. Earth can be both a 'vale of tears' AND where God has pitched His tent.

Sigh, yet again, sensationalising a simple Papal comment.......
sheepette
I spent a lot of my life in a valley of tears, when I was away from God.

Is that a rosary hanging from his ear? Why?
G.Taylor
Say yes when you mean yes and no when you mean no.
What a foolish Pope we have!
I am confused. I presume that the pope meant solidarity with WOMEN and men. Just a poke of fun. Not so fun filled is what is meant, even presuming '"men" has a generic meaning? I presume that solidarity with "men'" means ALL men, not just some. In what consists this solidarity with (all) men? Was God in solidarity with Himmler's Auschwitz and all the men and women, boud together in Nazi …More
I am confused. I presume that the pope meant solidarity with WOMEN and men. Just a poke of fun. Not so fun filled is what is meant, even presuming '"men" has a generic meaning? I presume that solidarity with "men'" means ALL men, not just some. In what consists this solidarity with (all) men? Was God in solidarity with Himmler's Auschwitz and all the men and women, boud together in Nazi solidarity, actively murdering there? Was God in solidarity with Stalin and his countless gulags, with all the men and all the women, bound together in communist solidarity, torturing the inmates? Is God in solidarity with the abortionist doctor as he crushes the head of a fetus to be removed?

Absurd questions, one might think and rightly so. Why rightly so? Simply because God has no solidarity neither with the Nazi nor with Communist men and women because they were sinning greviously. Ah, then it seems that God is not PER SE in solidarity with all men in women. Agreed? If one agrees, then one must distance oneself from the Pope's claim or, at least, demand a clarification. That God's salvational love is directed at all humans seems evident, but not all human behave in accordance with this love, i.e., they sin and often most seriously. So, this means that not all "men" are going to heaven, some (just a tiny few to almost all?) are destined for hell. "Hell", however one may wish to conceive it, entails an alienation from God from the point of view of "men" and God's withdrawal of "solidarity" with those not saved from the point of view of God. Agreed? If I am wrong here, I pray that some "one" will clarify matters for me. But, presuming agreement, what is to be said of the words of Pope Francis?

Perhaps, Pope Francis was preaching, so-to-speak, "off the cuff"!?! Often enough Pope Francis' words remind me of those of a coach trying to spur the losing team on. But any coach is not a pope and the coachie words will not be published worldwide influencing the religious belief of millions. And that is what worries me. Just what do such words reveal about Pope Francis?

In my preliminary judgment we have an insight into the fundamental attitude of the Pope towards life in this world. Life in this world is, perhaps, not a bowl of cherries with whip cream on top, nevertheless, said life is distinctly NOT a valley of tears, rather a place (e.g., perhaps a beach resort in Hawaii) where man (oops, and woman) meet God (via the sacraments of the Church or, perhaps, otherwise???). I am heading towards a reductio ad adsurdum which I will now persue.

Living here in Germany and watching the endless hours of German tv on the Nazi time or visiting Russia (just after the fall of the Soviets) or just whiling away the day reading the statistics on abortion, just in American, it being more aborted since 1973 to now than all the dead in WW II and for that matter in the Korean War, doing all this I reflect. Just saw a documentary on the demise of Hitler's 300,000 man 6th Army at Stalingrad with its canabalism, mass freezing, rotting, 15 years in a gulag from which only 4 or 5 thousand returned to Germany. Personally some tears of mine fell for the men of an enemy army. Or consult sometime P. Sorokin, a superlative Russian theorist of cultre, and dig out the statistics of all the wars through history (compared with Hawaii vacation like times of peace) and then, I dare you, let not any tears fall. Who wants to clutter up the valley of life with, ugh, tears? On the contrary, all the tears spilt then and now would turn any valley into a giant lake. I hesitate, but I have the impression that, like one of those famous three monkies, the Pope cannot really see evil.

I become unabashedly angry. SUFFERING flows not like tears rather like a torrent through human history and even today in the rich countries, not to mention poor countries and klepto-countries like Argentina. In the world I know, personally, historically and reflectively, suffering is there, sin is there, vileness is there! Such a world is worthy of tears!!!

Two points are established, I hope. 1. Divine solidarity with ALL men (and women) is an overstatement and, unless clarified, wrong. 2. A blank rejection of life as a "valley of tears" implies willy/nilly blindness to evil by anyone who believes that. Am I claiming that there is no meeting place between man and God? No!!! The meeting with God in this world is a meeting according to the functioning of this world, with all its joys, sex, fun, love, hate, killings, murder, mistreatment, fully ruined lives, etc., etc. etc. and even unmurdered children. God meets man and woman as an infinitely wonderous "Father" (a relation God chose for the 1st Person of the Trinity) who accepts the sacrifice of his innocent Son for human sins and then by mediates the Good News of salvational love through the Holy Spirit; "not" FOR this world, rather FOR Eternity. That is a meeting worthy of the highest joy and praise. The Epic of epics!

Bp Fellay (?) has argued that Pope Francis is a modernist. One thing is sure, Pope Francis has affirmed the modern world, denying the antagonistic tension between the Church as the spender of the sacraments and the ongoing life in a technologically advanced world. The Catholic Church (Protestant ones too) are losing believers or believers are being diluted in belief. That is a FACT (one completely outlined by Micahel Voris and his "ChurchMilitant" tv, i.e., "The Vortex"). No tears here? If none, absurd!

I end my reflections. I have the impression that the papal Coach Francis simply has directed his missionary game to emotionally affirming THIS world in the name of God and that he thereby misses the real drama going on. From my point of view (and it is my soul), Pope Francis has failed to address my pastoral needs. Amen!
Hail, Holy Queen

Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, hail, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve: to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this vale of tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus, O merciful, O loving, O sweet …More
Hail, Holy Queen

Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, hail, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve: to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this vale of tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus, O merciful, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary! Amen.
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