Captatio benevolentiae

WhSt. Paul Apostle en he arrives at the Areopagus delivered himself of a justly celebrated speech. In accord with the old rhetorical device of captatio benevolentiae (capturing the goodwill of one’…
@W obronie Tradycji Kościoła What counterfeit bible are you reading from? This is what St. Paul says:
[22] Ye men of Athens, in al things I perceive you as it were superstitious. [23] For passing by and seeing your Idols, I found an altar also where upon was written: To the unknowen God. That therefore which you worship, not knowing it, the same doe I preach to you. [24] The God that made the …More
@W obronie Tradycji Kościoła What counterfeit bible are you reading from? This is what St. Paul says:
[22] Ye men of Athens, in al things I perceive you as it were superstitious. [23] For passing by and seeing your Idols, I found an altar also where upon was written: To the unknowen God. That therefore which you worship, not knowing it, the same doe I preach to you. [24] The God that made the world and al things that are in it, he being the Lord of Heaven & earth dwelleth not in Temples made with hand, [25] neither is he served with mens hands, needing any thing, whereas himself giveth life unto al, and breathing, and al things : [26] and he made of one, al mankind, to inhabite upon the whole face of the earth, assigning set times, and the limits of their habitation, [27] for to seeke God, if happily they may feele or find him ; although he be not farre from everyone of us : [28] For in him we live and move and be, as certain also of your own Poetes said, For of his kind also we are. [29] Being therefore of Gods kind, we may not suppose, the Divinitie to be like unto gold or silver, or stone, the graving of art and devise of man. [30] And the times truly of this ignorance whereas God dispised, now he denounceth unto men that al every where doe penance, [31] for that he hath appointed a day wherein he wil judge the world in equitie, by a man whom he hath appointed, giving al men faith, raising him up from the death. [Acts of the Apostles Chapter 17, Rhemes 1582]
Look at the comment: biblia.deon.pl/rozdzial.php
Yes, you said this already. This post insinuates that what JPII did is no different than what St. Paul did. This is false. There's a massive difference between participating in pagan rituals versus making a reference to their poem in a speech to evangelize them. The Bible verses you posted come from a counterfeit bible that make it sound like St. Paul speaks highly of pagans. As if he was …More
Yes, you said this already. This post insinuates that what JPII did is no different than what St. Paul did. This is false. There's a massive difference between participating in pagan rituals versus making a reference to their poem in a speech to evangelize them. The Bible verses you posted come from a counterfeit bible that make it sound like St. Paul speaks highly of pagans. As if he was speaking like a modernist!!

Correct Bible : "22] Ye men of Athens, in al things I perceive you as it were superstitious."

Garbage counterfeit : "People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious."
St. Paul quoted a pagan hymn to Zeus (Acts 17:28; look at the comment: biblia.deon.pl/rozdzial.php). Saint John Paul II did the same (captatio benevolentiae). There is no internal act of idolatry when it is not conscious and intentional.
Yes, you've said this too. There are great number of people with malformed conscious and nor can we read the hearts of men, but this doesn't excuse their heretical or apostate behavior.
Don't insult St. Paul, who quoted a fragment of the pagan hymn to Zeus (Acts 17:28). Do not insult holy Christians who have consumed food dedicated to idols (1 Corinthians 8, 1-13).
That comment wasn't directed at St. Paul! That was directed to JPII.
So Paul stood before the whole council of the Areopagus and made this speech: 'Men of Athens, I have seen for myself how extremely scrupulous you are in all religious matter, because, as I strolled round looking at your sacred monuments, I noticed among other things an altar inscribed: To An Unknown God (Acts of Apostles 17, 22-23; www.catholic.org/bible/book.php).
@W obronie Tradycji Kościoła Admitting and believing are two different things. You replaced admitting with believing! And look at the rest of the sentence. "or though admitting one true God, they do not believe in the Messiah,"
@mattsixteen24:

Pius XI:

72. But in this battle joined by the powers of darkness against the very idea of Divinity, it is Our fond hope that, besides the host which glories in the name of Christ, all those - and they comprise the overwhelming majority of mankind, - who still believe in God and pay Him homage may take a decisive part.

Source of text: Encyclical "Divini Redemtoris" 72; www.…More
@mattsixteen24:

Pius XI:

72. But in this battle joined by the powers of darkness against the very idea of Divinity, it is Our fond hope that, besides the host which glories in the name of Christ, all those - and they comprise the overwhelming majority of mankind, - who still believe in God and pay Him homage may take a decisive part.

Source of text: Encyclical "Divini Redemtoris" 72; www.vatican.va/…/hf_p-xi_enc_193…na
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Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos (# 2), Jan. 6, 1928:

"... that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy, ... Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little, turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which …More
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Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos (# 2), Jan. 6, 1928:

"... that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy, ... Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little, turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which it clearly follows that one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion."[85]
So it it was also fine to introduce Pachamama in St Peter's by Francis at the Pachamama Synod.
It is completely different to introduce an image of an idol (Pachamama) to the temple and take part in a pagan ceremony - this is idolatry
We do not name a devil (Pachamama) in any positive sense. Not Zeus and not Pachamama.
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St.Paul did not use name of Zeus claiming that Zeus was the name of varied and complex reality that reflected Divine Providence because he knew that gods of pagans were demons.And of course he did not dare to kiss any thing considered "sacred" in the false religion.
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www.drbo.org/chapter/51017.htm Catholics are supposing to be reading from the Doughy Rheims Bible. No other! The following comes from the Doughy Rheims Bible, Acts 17, 22-28:

[22] But Paul standing in the midst of the Areopagus, said: Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are too superstitious. [23] For passing by, and seeing your idols, I found an altar also, on which was writt…More
www.drbo.org/chapter/51017.htm Catholics are supposing to be reading from the Doughy Rheims Bible. No other! The following comes from the Doughy Rheims Bible, Acts 17, 22-28:

[22] But Paul standing in the midst of the Areopagus, said: Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are too superstitious. [23] For passing by, and seeing your idols, I found an altar also, on which was written: To the unknown God. What therefore you worship, without knowing it, that I preach to you: [24] God, who made the world, and all things therein; he, being Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; [25] Neither is he served with men's hands, as though he needed any thing; seeing it is he who giveth to all life, and breath, and all things:

[24] "Dwelleth not in temples": God is not contained in temples; so as to need them for his dwelling, or any other uses, as the heathens imagined. Yet by his omnipresence, he is both there and everywhere.

[26] And hath made of one, all mankind, to dwell upon the whole face of the earth, determining appointed times, and the limits of their habitation. [27] That they should seek God, if happily they may feel after him or find him, although he be not far from every one of us: [28] For in him we live, and move, and are; as some also of your own poets said: For we are also his offspring.
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For in him we live, and move, and are; as some also of your own poets said: For we are also his offspring (Acts 17:28; www.drbo.org/chapter/51017.htm).

For we are also his offspring - this is a fragment of the pagan hymn to Zeus (look at the comment: biblia.deon.pl/rozdzial.php).

The entire text of the pagan hymn: en.wikisource.org/wiki/Hymn_to_Zeus
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@hitherto
It's pointless. The guy thinks that blessed Paul Apostle compared God Almighty to pagan idol Zeus and it seems nothing can modify his daring, heresy-smelling opinion. You can only say: hi to him and shake the dust off your feet.
@hitherto Drbo.org is a counterfeit DR bible. Use the original: archive.org/search.php

Read this: realdouayrheims.com