“If Pope Francis truly feels honored to be criticized for perverting the Church’s teachings on homosexuality, Holy Communion, Marriage, and the doctrine of Hell, then he is only revealing his true …More
“If Pope Francis truly feels honored to be criticized for perverting the Church’s teachings on homosexuality, Holy Communion, Marriage, and the doctrine of Hell, then he is only revealing his true entrenchment into ideological falsehoods,” Hichborn continued.
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Pope Francis calls it ‘an honor’ to have Americans ‘attack’ him

'I think it’s an honor that Americans attack me.'
Those who join Bergoglio commit spiritual adultery by joining a false pope and a false concubine church. The false Pope Bergoglio does not even swear fidelity to the Church, so he is attacking the deposit of faith. Bergoglio is like a man who maliciously allegedly marries a woman with the intention of murdering her to seize her property. Bergoglio has never been a pope because he was already an …More
Those who join Bergoglio commit spiritual adultery by joining a false pope and a false concubine church. The false Pope Bergoglio does not even swear fidelity to the Church, so he is attacking the deposit of faith. Bergoglio is like a man who maliciously allegedly marries a woman with the intention of murdering her to seize her property. Bergoglio has never been a pope because he was already an apostate, heretic and cismatic in Argentina. The Church has had with Bergoglio 38 anti popes.
www.youtube.com/watch Bergoglio talking about his invalid election said: "And next, I do not know what happened," he continues. "They made me stand up. They asked me if I agreed. I said yes. I do not know if they made me swear something, I do not know do not remember."
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Like I said, please stop referring to Jorge el Loco Bergoglio as "pope." He's no more pope than my crazy Uncle Tony. Can a real pope faithful and true spend his entire 'papacy' trying to destroy Holy Mother Church? As Bergoglio has done the past six and one-half years!
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BrotherBeowulf the user Ultraviolet wrote a comment in an article of a scientific study that denies the existence of the Gay gene New Study Confirms No Gay Gene and Ultraviolet wrote that because they did not find it does not mean that it does not exist with that not only denies Catholic moral doctrine but blasphemes God. This user can not even be considered Catholic but apostate.
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@la verdad prevalece You are confusing a speculation with an assertion. You are also confusing reason with contradicting dogma, which I have not done.

So, no, I have not blasphemed God. Further, we are discussing the validity of Pope Francis' Papacy which has nothing to do with "gay genes". To accuse the Pope of not being Pope is just as heretical and, in truth apostasy as well. Lastly, you are …More
@la verdad prevalece You are confusing a speculation with an assertion. You are also confusing reason with contradicting dogma, which I have not done.

So, no, I have not blasphemed God. Further, we are discussing the validity of Pope Francis' Papacy which has nothing to do with "gay genes". To accuse the Pope of not being Pope is just as heretical and, in truth apostasy as well. Lastly, you are committing a serious logical fallacy (error in reasoning) known as a "genetic fallacy", i.e. something is false because you dislike the source.

One thing is for certain, you are one to carry a serious grudge, much like Francis himself does. Must be a Latin American cultural attitude... It is not my fault that you can not read English very well. I see no reason to silently tolerate your ignorance, or your spite, or your obvious stupidity (in whatever language). Charity only goes so far and for me it ends when a moron starts telling lies about me.

Before you spend another evening sulking because I made you look foolish again, please review Matthew 5 23-25
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_5%3a23%E2%80%9324
Ultra--"What if Benedict dies first!!" Heavens to Betsy--what a disaster! Not.

Let's wait til we get there. Benny ain't dead yet. And Bergoglio, Antipope Francis, George the Mad--or Jorge El Loco as I affectionately call him--God can sweep from the table at any moment.

You have a lot of if's. I'm just dealing with the current reality: Pope Benedict is Pope; The Pope of Stang Antipope Bergoglio …More
Ultra--"What if Benedict dies first!!" Heavens to Betsy--what a disaster! Not.

Let's wait til we get there. Benny ain't dead yet. And Bergoglio, Antipope Francis, George the Mad--or Jorge El Loco as I affectionately call him--God can sweep from the table at any moment.

You have a lot of if's. I'm just dealing with the current reality: Pope Benedict is Pope; The Pope of Stang Antipope Bergoglio is not. Let God sort it out after that--or Our Lady of Fatima, the Immaculate Heart.
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Yes, I do. The "if's" are designed to prevent situational relativism, one of the most obvious failings of the ideologically near-sighted. That's not me taking a shot, either. A sound theory doesn't need retroactive corrections or an endless series of exceptions.

e.g. "Discrimination is bad." --except for all the thousands of instances when the Left does it to 'balance' inequali…More
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Yes, I do. The "if's" are designed to prevent situational relativism, one of the most obvious failings of the ideologically near-sighted. That's not me taking a shot, either. A sound theory doesn't need retroactive corrections or an endless series of exceptions.

e.g. "Discrimination is bad." --except for all the thousands of instances when the Left does it to 'balance' inequalities they dislike. "Separation of Church and State" --except for halal meals in schools for muslims, vegetarian meals in schools for buddhists, 'cultural' visits from imams, and literally countless other offenses against Christians in general.

Benedict resigned. He said so, he resigned in practice, and left the leadership of the Church to another. That's the current reality. I don't like it either. But I refuse to pretend otherwise. He did what he did. See my point about why things happens. God allowed Benedict XVI to resign so he could exercise free will.

There have been bad popes before, Francis is nothing new in that. What -is- new is Francis' motivation. Again, however, God allows bad things to happen, even in His Church.

Also, and this is a bit more of a mystical reason, ultimately the prophecies in Revelation will happen. There will be an evil Church, led by evil men. I'm beginning to honestly suspect we're seeing one of them knowingly laying the foundations.

Saying Francis isn't really Pope is like saying Judas wasn't really an apostle. We may not like what Judas did but it was necessary for Scripture to be fulfilled.
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Custody of the mouth please.
I bet he will be greatly honored in hell.
Repent while there is time.
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This American would take it an honor for Antipope Francis to excommunicate me. Bring it on, Jorge El Loco!

Please, dear Tesa, stop referring to Francis as Pope. He is not the Pope; he's the Antipope. Pope Benedict is the one and only pope, even if he has relinquished the tiller to the Homosexual Network Strangling the Church, in the immortal and liberating words of Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano'…More
This American would take it an honor for Antipope Francis to excommunicate me. Bring it on, Jorge El Loco!

Please, dear Tesa, stop referring to Francis as Pope. He is not the Pope; he's the Antipope. Pope Benedict is the one and only pope, even if he has relinquished the tiller to the Homosexual Network Strangling the Church, in the immortal and liberating words of Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano'!
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Tesa is correct BrotherBeowulf . Francis is still Pope, even if he is a bad Pope. Consider the following...Many here, like you, claim Francis is the antipope and Benedict is the legitimate Pope.

Let us suppose you are correct. What happens when Benedict dies? If Francis is an antipope the way you claim and was invalidly chosen then he can not ever be pope regardless of whether Benedict is …More
Tesa is correct BrotherBeowulf . Francis is still Pope, even if he is a bad Pope. Consider the following...Many here, like you, claim Francis is the antipope and Benedict is the legitimate Pope.

Let us suppose you are correct. What happens when Benedict dies? If Francis is an antipope the way you claim and was invalidly chosen then he can not ever be pope regardless of whether Benedict is alive or not. Who, in your opinion, is pope then? Or is there none?

Even if, somehow, Francis expired tomorrow, the next pope will be chosen by the supposedly invalid cardinals appointed by a supposedly antipope Francis. By your reasoning then, this next hypothetical pope will also be an antipope since Benedict XVI would still, miraculously, be alive.

But at some point Benedict XVI simply will not be here anymore and the Church will be left with... who? Who is the valid Pope then? Or will the Church have no Pope at all?

Your position (shared by others here) is nothing less than perpetual sedevacantism kept at bay only by the failing health of a 92 year old man.

My position resolves that problem. Benedict resigned, he himself has made that clear, therefore Francis is the Pope. He may be a bad Pope. This is nothing new. There have been many other bad Popes before him. He may even be the worst Pope ever since he passionately believes in Marxism, something that hasn't happened before in the entire history of the papacy. But he's still Pope.

This avoids two very troubling viewpoints. Firstly, I don't like second-guessing God. All things happen for one of two reasons: 1.) God either causes them to happen or 2.) allows them to happen. Nothing could force God to appoint Francis as Pope. Francis is sitting on the Throne Of St. Peter for either reason #1 or reason #2.

Secondly, it avoids what seems to be a popular yet silly outlook on GTV, I call it The Finicky Little Catholics: "I don't like Francis, therefore he is invalid." Typically backed by some very contrived interpretations of Church tradition/ or canon law.

If Benedict had resigned and his successor was a hard-line extremely tradition-minded Pope, the Finicky Little Catholics would all be silent.

They would casually ignore any issues of supposedly questionable resignations, weird conspiracy theories how Benedict was "forced" to resign, or any of their other false concerns about canon law/ the Magisterium. The successor would be legitimate because they like him.

But now, instead, they act much like children at the dinner table. "Billy, I told you to eat your vegetables!" "Mommy, I don't like asparagus so it isn't a vegetable."

Sadly, the grown-up world and the Church simply doesn't work like that.
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My Dear Ultra-V--It is not Finicky Little Catholics who raise the alarum when the so-called 'pope' appears at a Mass for youth wielding a black-magic occult witchy stick, called a Stang. Antipope Francis has spent his whole career trying to destroy Holy other Church. I for one will not let him without a fight.

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My Dear Ultra-V--It is not Finicky Little Catholics who raise the alarum when the so-called 'pope' appears at a Mass for youth wielding a black-magic occult witchy stick, called a Stang. Antipope Francis has spent his whole career trying to destroy Holy other Church. I for one will not let him without a fight.

You are quite right--we have had bad popes before. You neglect that we have also have had Antipopes--34 until 2013, and now 35. Why is Francis as Antipope so hard for you to grasp? The only difference is that almost all prior Antipopes--unlike Francis--have been Catholic.

We don't get to determine who dies first, or what happens next. All we can do is deal with the current situation--two men in white; two popes; each apparently accepting the co-existence of the other--which is the really unprecedented thing in this whole affair; one Catholic, one not.

Francis has declared publicly who his master is, and it is not Christ. The Stang tells us who. Has he ever genuflected before the Most Blessed Sacrament? Muslim Convict Transvestites, yes. His Lord and God--No.

Has he defended the Homosexual Network Strangling the Church, in the immortal words of Archibishop Carlo Maria Vigano'? Yes. He is the chief of the Network.

Has he denied the need for Sanctifying grace? Yes, more so than Luther. Attacked the Sacraments of Holy Orders, Penance, and Holy Matrimony? Yes of course, that is what Amoralis Laetitia is all about, and its promulgation in the AAS.

Antipope Francis is in a word, an Apostate. He is not only Antipope, but more likely than not the False Prophet Forerunner of the AntiChrist.

Benedict's resignation was of the Ministry, not the office. He abandoned the tiller; but he's still the skipper. All I can advise is pray for discernment, and fast for the triumph of the Immaculate Heart.

"Rejoice O Virgin Mary, alone thous hast destroyed all heresies throughout the world."
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OUR LADY IN GARABANDAL TOLD US THERE WOULD BUT THREE MORE POPES BENEDICT XVI IS THE LAST ONE.
CLEAR NEITHER BERGOGLIO NOR PAROLIN OR THE ONE PROMOTED BY THE LOBBY GAY IN VATICAN WOULD BE A POPE A POPE DEFENDS JESUSCRIST AND HUS CHURCH AND IS ELECTED BY THE WHOLY GHOST.
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