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“All Darkness” – Unknown Revelations of Padre Pio

“All Darkness” – Unknown Revelations of Padre Pio Tempi di Maria, a respected Gloria.tv user, published on Italian Gloria.tv some unknown revelations of Padre Pio referring to impeccable sources. …More
“All Darkness” – Unknown Revelations of Padre Pio
Tempi di Maria, a respected Gloria.tv user, published on Italian Gloria.tv some unknown revelations of Padre Pio referring to impeccable sources. Padre Pio was made a saint by John Paul II in 2002. One revelation, Padre Pio made in 1968, only month before the start of the 1968 Student Protests. Padre Pio was after Holy Hour as usual on the veranda of the Capuchine monastery in San Giovanni Rotondo together with his spiritual sons and daughters for a short meeting.
We Cannot Say Anything
The spiritual sons and daughters were talking about the outcome of the Second Vatican Council, and were exposing different opinions and expectations. The post-conciliar euphory was running high. Strangely, Padre Pio did not intervene in the discussions as he would usually have done, although the group expected it. Eventually, he turned to a layman next to him and whispered something in his ear. He told him - quote, “All is darkness, but we cannot say …More
None of St Pios observations are of value because they lack detail and specifity.
Thechurchs primary problem is it’s acceptence of an antipope who is a formal heretic and an apostate from the Roman Catholic Faith.
It does not require spiritual insight to recognize this merely an examination of the true Pope Benedict’s defective resignation speech.
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frjimanderson
Padre Pio reportedly wrote: "Certainly, it's true." Pilgrimages are allowed.
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Prayhard
Garabandal was not approved, but also the local Ordinary found nothing wrong with its message, even if he could not approve it.
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frawley
Was Garabandal actually condemned or just not approved by the church?
Live Mike
There are 3 possible forms of declaration:
1) Approbation: “Constat de supernaturalitate”
2) Condemnation: “Constat de non supernaturalitate”
3) Neither Approbation nor Condemnation: “NON CONSTAT DE SUPERNATURALITATE”
THIS WAS THE OFFICIAL DECLARATION OF THE LOCAL ORDINARY OF THE DIOCESE OF SANTANDER. The "Alleged Appearances" are pending approval by the Church, pending new results …More
There are 3 possible forms of declaration:
1) Approbation: “Constat de supernaturalitate”
2) Condemnation: “Constat de non supernaturalitate”
3) Neither Approbation nor Condemnation: “NON CONSTAT DE SUPERNATURALITATE”
THIS WAS THE OFFICIAL DECLARATION OF THE LOCAL ORDINARY OF THE DIOCESE OF SANTANDER. The "Alleged Appearances" are pending approval by the Church, pending new results or the reopening of the case.
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BrTomFordeOFMCap
The problem with such unknown revelations is knowing how trustworthy they are. Who or what are the sources? Are there any corroborating witnesses? Just because these alleged statements of St Pio may fit with our present situation does not make them worthy of belief. We must always be wary of the devil's deceptions.
The seer Concita is my mom's friend's friend.
frawley
All of todays major apparitions of Our Lady (Fatima, Lourdes ect.) were at one time "Not Approved". If not "Condemned" by the Church, we ignore Our Lady's urgent warnings at great peril! Had we heeded the message of Garabandal in the 60's we would not be in the position we now find ourselves.
BrTomFordeOFMCap
My query was about a claim that Padre Pio had said something. I am not concerned with Garabandal, with whether it is true or not.
AJPM
Something we need to know: Padre Pio supported Garabandal's false appearances. This fact alone, in a normal time, would have prevented his canonization. Indeed, in this time of apostasy, they canonize anyone.
Oh, yeah! And what about the trustness of those who decided about the falsehodd of Garabandal locutions?!
Saint John Vianney did not believe in La Salette and spoke ill of one of the seers, for about ten years. While he did eventually see he was wrong in this, it was not an obstacle to his canonization. What is true or not at Garabandal is one thing, but that a local bishop who approves an apparition or not, is a heretic or not, must be taken into account before discounting an apparition that he …More
Saint John Vianney did not believe in La Salette and spoke ill of one of the seers, for about ten years. While he did eventually see he was wrong in this, it was not an obstacle to his canonization. What is true or not at Garabandal is one thing, but that a local bishop who approves an apparition or not, is a heretic or not, must be taken into account before discounting an apparition that he discounts for unsound reasons. I would trust Padre Pio more than a local bishop, not on the grounds that Padre Pio has more authority in the Church, but on the grounds that Padre Pio had more experience in supernatural things, while most bishops know something only about money or management.
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Live Mike
@AJPM By what authority do you make the claim that Garabandal is a false apparition? You appear to have arrogated to yourself the authority of the local bishop of the Diocese of Santander who has NEVER made such a declaration. Perhaps you can provide the precise statement made by any Bishop of Santander that back up your erroneous claim.
Sincerely and respectfully yours in the Passion of the …More
@AJPM By what authority do you make the claim that Garabandal is a false apparition? You appear to have arrogated to yourself the authority of the local bishop of the Diocese of Santander who has NEVER made such a declaration. Perhaps you can provide the precise statement made by any Bishop of Santander that back up your erroneous claim.
Sincerely and respectfully yours in the Passion of the Church,
AJPM
1- I know Garabandal like the back of my hand, having read all the books that talk about him, and I was therefore able to get a precise idea of him;
2- The Church, when she has regained her legitimate authority, will judge this false apparition, as she will judge the other false apparitions of San Damiano, Medjugorje, the Escorial, etc... which I also know as my pocket.
Live Mike
Thank you for admitting your erroneous claim was false. May Our Lord and Our Lady have mercy on your soul for such an apparent prideful statement.
AJPM
I don't respond to malicious answers.
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Live Mike
You don't respond to legitimate questions either that expose your claim to be incorrect, wrong, erroneous, fallacious, faulty, flawed, distorted, inaccurate, inexact, imprecise, invalid, unfounded, fictitious, concocted, fabricated, invented, made up, unreal, fraudulent, misleading, deceptive and untrue.