Revelation 3:16

Revelation 3:16 So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth. For all you lukewarm Catholics taking up space in church. Chew on this verse for a moment …More
Revelation 3:16
So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

For all you lukewarm Catholics taking up space in church. Chew on this verse for a moment and realize that you will most certainly end up like this, if you do not become a RADICAL CATHOLIC!!!!!!
Let no one presume that they have the courage to be a Catholic martyr. If God asks it of us, He will give us the strength to endure it. Let us not forget that Peter thought he would follow Christ to the death at the , Last Supper.
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Lalanz
Well spoken!!! Hopefully God will give us Americans that Grace when our end comes!!!
Lalanz
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I could be wrong, but you seem to be the type that may view martyrdom as a fanatical action.

Let me ask you a question are you at a point in your spiritual life, that you are willing to become a real martyr? Can you right now get down on your knees and let ISIS Cut your head off for Jesus??? If not,

You will never see the face of God!!!!

Others reading this message chew on the …More
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I could be wrong, but you seem to be the type that may view martyrdom as a fanatical action.

Let me ask you a question are you at a point in your spiritual life, that you are willing to become a real martyr? Can you right now get down on your knees and let ISIS Cut your head off for Jesus??? If not,

You will never see the face of God!!!!

Others reading this message chew on the same question. You can go to mass and become as religious as you want, but if you do not reach a point of dying on cross like Christ,
You are wasting your time and are taking up space in church!!!

True charity is telling like it is!!!!!
Yes, you are wrong, Lanlanz.

Re-read my previous comments on this post. I said nothing about martyrdom, literally zero about the subject until now. God knows all things and only He can follow the tortured path of non-logic that led you to draw such a conclusion about what "type" I am.

Likewise, you don't speak for God, nor are you The Almighty's assistant judge, nor has He given you infallible…More
Yes, you are wrong, Lanlanz.

Re-read my previous comments on this post. I said nothing about martyrdom, literally zero about the subject until now. God knows all things and only He can follow the tortured path of non-logic that led you to draw such a conclusion about what "type" I am.

Likewise, you don't speak for God, nor are you The Almighty's assistant judge, nor has He given you infallible knowledge on who will or won't see His face.

To answer your question, the man who martyrs me will do so either with an explosive device or only after I've run out of ammunition. Any such possible martyrdom will occur while I'm trying to stab him to death. No man takes the life God has given me without a mortal fight for it. So, no, I'm NOT going to "get down on my knees and let ISIS" cut off my head. I'm not going to let ISIS do anything of the sort. If ISIS wants a piece of me, they're going to pay for it with plenty of their own blood.

ISIS, like most contemporary muslim jihadists are essentially cowards whose notion of "bravery" involves planting bombs at crowded public sporting events, hijacking planes filled with disarmed civilians, and public stabbing sprees in areas where they know the public has been disarmed by their own government.

Happily, through God's Grace, I live in an American state that has arguably the least restrictive laws in the entire country when it comes to being armed and lawful self-defense. Unsurprisingly, ISIS finds far easier and (for them) safer target-areas than where I live.
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Lalanz
Amen 🙏 great response!!! Fellow brother in Christ!!!!
Well, to their credit, the "lukewarm Catholics taking up space in church." at least ARE still taking up space in church. Would you rather they lapse into apostacy? Before you answer that, ask yourself what Jesus' answer would be if He were asked.
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Jesus was and still is a stern Master!!!
Although God is Merciful, his image by watered down Catholicism, has been misrepresented. People need to understand that Jesus is merciful, but he is and was Perfectly JUST!!. To carry the label as being Catholic, a person Is radically for Christ or not! It is really just that black and white. The Bible is Black and white and must be taken …More
Ultraviolet

Jesus was and still is a stern Master!!!
Although God is Merciful, his image by watered down Catholicism, has been misrepresented. People need to understand that Jesus is merciful, but he is and was Perfectly JUST!!. To carry the label as being Catholic, a person Is radically for Christ or not! It is really just that black and white. The Bible is Black and white and must be taken literally. Jesus clearly stated, “ your either with me or against me” no negotiation. The lesson of the rich man is perfect example, here we see Jesus telling the rich man leave everything and follow me, The rich man was a lukewarm, therefore did not follow him!!! The message is don’t be a Luke warm Catholic...

And yes people who are lukewarm are taking up space and must not enter into the church. The lukewarms are the ones talking during mass, dressing inappropriately, receiving communion without confession.

Let me ask you a question, is it better to have a lukewarm in mass who does not take the sacraments (confession.etc..) seriously and risk eating his or her own condemnation????
No one is contesting the justness of The Lord, Lalanz. You were griping about luke-warm Catholics "taking up space" (your words) in Church.

Your argument that "lukewarm are taking up space and must not enter into the church." violates Canon Laws 1246-1248. All Catholics are obligated, on pain of grave sin, to attend Mass every Sunday and on all Feast Days, whether they are "luke-warm" in your …More
No one is contesting the justness of The Lord, Lalanz. You were griping about luke-warm Catholics "taking up space" (your words) in Church.

Your argument that "lukewarm are taking up space and must not enter into the church." violates Canon Laws 1246-1248. All Catholics are obligated, on pain of grave sin, to attend Mass every Sunday and on all Feast Days, whether they are "luke-warm" in your estimation or not.

Unlike you, I would rather see luke-warm Catholics still regularly attending Mass, being exposed to the Chruch's teachings through edifying sermons, the Gospels and letters of St. Paul, and witnessing the glorious mystery of Transubstantiation. At least they still have the potential for God's message to reach their hearts.

It is entirely possible for a luke-warm Catholic to attend Mass without committing a grave sin through unworthily receiving the Eucharist.

On a related point, don't automatically assume that people who are "receiving communion without confession" haven't already gone to confession earlier in the week and have, with a thorough examination of their conscience, found no mortal sins in the intervening time between their last confession and Mass. Depending on the parish, there are very long lines for confession. It is both convenient and an act of charity for our fellow parishioners, to confess a day or two early and free up our heavily over-worked priests on Sunday.
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Lalanz
Here is another verse for the lukewarm Hippocrates calling themselves Catholic...

Isaiah 29:13 -
The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught."
As a matter of historical fact, Hippocrates was neither "lukewarm" nor did he ever call himself a Catholic. Better known as The Father Of Western Medicine, he died in Larisa, Thessaly 390 years before the birth of Christ.
Lalanz
“ Attention” if you are reading this post and you think that I am fanatical, it should be a red flag that you are a lukewarm catholic. Please get out of the Roman Catholic Church because you are taking up space!!!!!
I can't speak for other readers, but I don't think you're fanatical as much as incredibly opinionated and uncharitable. You're also demonstrably guilty of the logical fallacy known as "No True Scotsman". It's entirely possible for a someone to think you're fanatical (with good reason, too) and NOT be a lukewarm catholic. You're using witch-hunter logic: "Anyone who questions my opinion is a …More
I can't speak for other readers, but I don't think you're fanatical as much as incredibly opinionated and uncharitable. You're also demonstrably guilty of the logical fallacy known as "No True Scotsman". It's entirely possible for a someone to think you're fanatical (with good reason, too) and NOT be a lukewarm catholic. You're using witch-hunter logic: "Anyone who questions my opinion is a witch as well."

That was a particularly dark time in Church history. I think I can speak for other readers when I say we sure as heck don't need you bringing all that back with fallacious reasoning.

Serious question: what is it with you and "taking up space" anyway? Have you SEEN attendance at most churches these days? It's frightening.
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Lalanz
God clearly stated that he spits out lukewarm individuals, not my words but God’s. You seem to have taking it personally. Well you should. God and eternity is serious. Your so called Fallcious reasoning does not apply here, I’m not reasoning anything. It is really that black and white your either with Jesus or against him, no reasoning with this reality. It’s the modern type Catholic who does …More
God clearly stated that he spits out lukewarm individuals, not my words but God’s. You seem to have taking it personally. Well you should. God and eternity is serious. Your so called Fallcious reasoning does not apply here, I’m not reasoning anything. It is really that black and white your either with Jesus or against him, no reasoning with this reality. It’s the modern type Catholic who does not take the Bible literally they're destroying our church. If God makes a radical statement like, spitting lukewarms out of mouth” then he meant it that way no reasoning with it!!!

Modernizing Catholics along with modernized theologians, like to twist the Bible and make its seem as symbolic, that Adam and Eve are not real characters and that most of the Bible is figurative. The Bible is and will always be black and white and must be taken literally!!! If God said Moses split the sea, then a real man split the sea!!!!!
God's words and your interpretation of them, happily, are two very different things. God stated he would spit out the lukewarm (here's the point you're missing) at the time of the last judgement. You're quoting Revelations. Nowhere in the Gospels did Jesus ever make that quote.

"I’m not reasoning anything."
That, sadly, is increasingly obvious in your replies. Reason plays no part in your thinki…More
God's words and your interpretation of them, happily, are two very different things. God stated he would spit out the lukewarm (here's the point you're missing) at the time of the last judgement. You're quoting Revelations. Nowhere in the Gospels did Jesus ever make that quote.

"I’m not reasoning anything."
That, sadly, is increasingly obvious in your replies. Reason plays no part in your thinking or how you form your opinions. I was making an entirely different point on the reasoning expressed in your opinion but you've made it very clear such distinctions are lost entirely upon you.
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