She lives happily with her husband Joe in Fort Jarvis, New York.
About 18 years ago it became clear that God had raised up Betty Brennan for a spiritual
ministry of discernment of spirits.
She is also used in a ministry of teaching.
She nearly or most surely has a full-time position teaching for one of the New York diocese.
Betty brings to us a clear, spiritual, authoritative teaching style.
She is very much in demand all over the country to lead retreats, conferences, and seminars.
Our ministry is one which is best experienced and not read about.
We thank you, Lord, that you have brought to us.
our sister Betty Brin.
Before I start, I was just wondering if my daughter Maureen was here.
I'll tell you why when you hear what I have to say.
I think I'd like to share a little bit of my background so you know where I'm coming from.
Up until 18 years ago, I guess you would classify me as a true persecutor of the church.
I was heavily involved in Satanism.
And I did much to persecute the Church, especially the Roman Catholic Church.
I was born a Catholic. I was raised a Catholic.
I went to Catholic schools all my life.
My dad died when I was about 12 years old, and my mother, unable to handle the pain and
wanting to raise her children as good Catholics, decided to send both my brother and myself
back to Europe.
And so back I went and was raised in the isolation of a convent boarding school.
which was very, very painful, the average American kid from Brooklyn,
now in this type of a surrounding.
So I faced a lot of loneliness, but I also found Christ.
When I graduated and went on to school and came back to this country, I guess I
was what you would call a good Catholic. I went to Mass on Sundays, sort of knew
my theology, didn't have too many questions, wasn't too involved.
But then I had a child that was born.
with a terminal disease, brain disease, and I watched that child die slowly for two years in front of me.
I had to learn how to tube feed her.
her bladder, move her bowels, and everything else suction her that goes along with that.
And I had this tremendous, tremendous anger at God.
And I went through all the things that we're supposed to go through.
I went, we had a Mass, said Vaha.
And I remember when the funeral was over, going back into the church by myself, looking
up at the crucifix and saying, I'll get even.
And then I let it be, and I went back, I'm a cellist.
to playing the cello when I joined an orchestra, and what I didn't realize is that in the orchestra
that I played in, there were four or five different Satanic priests.
or ended up that one of them really befriended me, an older man, who made a
point of every evening that we had practice to inviting me out for coffee
and allowing me to share the brokenness of my life. I didn't know that as well as
being a satanic priest he was also a psychologist. So I was receiving little
by little every week negative inner healing.
And I transferred on to him, and I sort of needed him because he was the only one that
allowed me to express my hatred and anger and frustration at God without saying you
shouldn't feel that way or anything else.
So I felt I was allowed to be, and I needed him.
So one night we played somewhere, and my children were away, and my husband was away on a trip.
played in this place and they were going to a party and I had 72 hours free so
being the party girl I asked where they were going and they said they were going
to a party and I insisted on going and he said no no I don't think you're
going to like this party given this do but I insisted on going anyway and we
went someplace and I thought it was rather peculiar it was a finished barn
and I thought it was strange when I walked in there but I said nothing I
So he said, listen, we're having a private meeting inside and I'd like you just to stay out here and, you know, read some books and listen to some music and do whatever you want to do, and you might hear some singing and stuff, but pay no attention to it, just stay here.
So I sat there and, of course, I heard the chanting and everything was going on. I became very, very curious.
So, of course, I opened the door and I realized what was going on.
And I couldn't move, you see, because I felt I needed this person.
And if I walked out, I knew I would no longer have this person in my life.
And that's how I got involved.
and it's very little outside of
human sacrifice that I was not basically involved in.
So when I hear of all the stuff that's going on, I know the power. I know what they have out there.
But I'm not going to dwell on that. What I want you to know is that the Lord Jesus Christ came into my life.
What happened was I was teaching in a school, substituting, and this other
teacher was kind enough to give me a lift every day because we'd only one car at
the time. And then finally when we got the second car, her car broke down. So one
night she calls my house and she says to me, you know, I said yeah. She said, I'd
like to go to Newburgh to a healing mass.
And I said, a healing mass. And she didn't know. Nobody knew what I was involved in.
And I said, well, I really can't do that. I said, you know, really? We'll call her Pat.
I live a hundred and something miles away from that. I don't think my husband would appreciate me.
Why don't you go to church wherever you feel you have to go to church? Why do you have to go there?
So I came in and I said to my husband, you know what? Pat wants me to drive her a hundred miles to a healing mass.
And I was waiting for the reaction from him, and he said, well, why don't you?
said, oh, why don't I? So I said, oh, well, it's really a long story. And he said, oh,
I think you should reciprocate her kindness to you and drive her to the healing mass.
So I said, all right, I'll drive her to the healing mass. So I picked her up and I drove
her to the mass and I'm sitting outside the church and I said to myself, wouldn't it be
fun to go in there and have a little game play? So of course I went in.
And with endowments and stuff, the lights went off.
So Father was stuck in the middle of mass, but no lights.
They overcame that, and they had candles.
And I tried to do the next thing, and He overcame that.
So it drove me nuts, no matter what I did.
So finally, at the end of the mass, I kind of left.
I left before the consecration went outside.
So it ended up that I had to take her back and forth to this place two or three times.
So one day she said to me, you know, I go other times to this place and nothing happens only when you're here.
And I said, really, Pat? And she said, yeah. And you act very strange.
I said, I do not. She said, yeah, you do. I said, how do I look strange?
She said, you become terrified. You break out into a sweat.
I think maybe I should be rushing for an ambulance and you take off.
And did you ever notice that you stay at mass for the beginning and then you take off?
She said, do you got a mask on Sunday?
So, of course, I said yes, because you see, what I would do at home is I would pretend
that I had to get the children out and my husband out and everybody, and then I'd run
down somewhere and get a bulletin from somebody and come back up and I'd been to Mass somewhere,
saying I would just...
I played the whole game.
And it didn't really show because, basically, you're an upper-less echelon, that's the
deceit.
It really doesn't show.
It's only the people that are in lower echelon that are on the drugs and the alcohol and
have all the other problems that people look at, but it's the guys that are really behind
the scene calling the shots that nobody seems to go after in the 4th, 5th, and 6th echelon,
which are basically the people of society, your doctors, your lawyers, your physicians,
your...
psychologists. These are the people that are shooting and calling the shots. So to
make a long story short, that was my life. Then one day I decided I had to take her
on a Sunday, it was the last time, and I stayed until again before the
consecration of the mass, and I said to myself, I got to get out of here fast.
And I ran out of the building, and as I was running out of the building and down the stairs,
this father, Richard McEllea, was coming up the stairs and I really knocked him over and he fell down three stairs.
And he was furious with me.
So he ran after me, and almost literally was going to kill me.
He sent me to the thing and asked me, did I not see him coming up the stairs and he
heard himself in the whole bit and I went through it, but he realized there was something
else going on because I broke out into this sweat and he says to me, who are you in the
name of Jesus?
And before you knew it, all this stuff came out and the man wouldn't let go.
And I meant I went from torment to torment struggling and fighting, but he stuck by me
He was a very very good man
And we worked now his team the Lord just called us his team we go around the world
Doing official exorcisms and whatever else the Lord calls us to but I just want you to know
that this is where I have come from and this is who I've been
absolutely the lowest of the low.
And the Lord Jesus Christ said, I'm going to raise you up.
Because even though she ran away from me...
She is my creation. I love her. She is precious and she's mine.
So I just had to make one slight movement towards him.
And he came searching in.
It wasn't an overnight conversion.
The deliverance took almost a year and a half.
It was going up to Eucharist, receiving Eucharist, sitting with Eucharist for 15 minutes and
running outside of church quietly and losing the whole ton.
contents of my stomach. It was superior at the time, became fearful, and decided the
only way that they would give me deliverance prayer is if I came on a Thursday afternoon
and publicly came up for it.
And the humility of that, one day my husband came to Mass, and he was waiting because he
knew I was getting prayed over, and the woman, and he went to move into another pill, and
the woman beside him said, oh, don't leave now, wait till you see what happens.
Wait till you see this woman that comes, because I would levitate, I would lift up people,
whatever the story was, and I don't really remember too much anymore.
And the woman said, I wonder what kind of a person she is.
My husband looked at her and said, she's a very fine person, and I love her, and she's my wife.
And I quite didn't know how to handle that.
So the deliverance went on.
And as the deliverance went on and I became freer
the truth, and realize that it wasn't Jesus that I was really angry with, but I was dealing
with the brokenness within my own heart and spirit, and that had to be healed.
I had to learn that I had to look at myself and be responsible for my own actions.
I had to look at myself and realize that truth is truth, and regardless of the pain, I'm
going to have to make choices.
Maybe they're not choices that are going to fulfill me, but they're choices that are
eventually going to bring me into the kingdom of God.
I realized the value of life.
I realized the value of my soul.
I realized the value of the individual soul.
I understood the meaning of the broken body of Christ.
I understood what it was to call the sinner, but to truly love them.
To call the sinner in their sin, to state it, have them claim it, put it aside and reach
out to the brokenness and the need within them that caused this sin.
It wasn't that I came from a horrendous, horrible background and got involved in this.
I came from a very good background because that I didn't have someone Christian to really
love.
would force me to open up, I moved away. I'm not blaming it on anyone, I'm just
saying it myself, you see. That's why it's so important. But in this movement and what
I was into, what I realized within that circle that really totally blew my mind
for the lack of a better word, was that these people knew the value of the
sacraments.
Every satanic ritual in higher echelon is a take-off of the sacramental right that's
used within the Roman Catholic Church, and that is a powerful testimony, because they
know and they understand and they're terrified of the power within sacramental church.
Can you hear that?
And when the Lord basically took me out of this and made a new creation, and you realize
He chooses the weak so that no flesh may glory.
So when somebody says to me, it's good, or this is good, or you have a great gift, it's
just a gift.
I know who I am, and I know my sin.
And even though it's wonderful to hear that on a human level,
it's more important that I stay in union with him.
It's more important that I just look at a gift that is just a gift.
It's more important that I immerse myself in church.
It's more important that if I'm going to basically be called out into circles like this,
to leave them not with a tremendous up.
Not with a lot of talking about gifts, but to lead them with a knowledge and an understanding that the Lord Jesus Christ left them seven weapons to deal with the demonic.
They are the seven sacraments of the church.
And I said so in there, it somewhat breaks my heart when I see people constantly, constantly
running to conferences unforgiving, constantly buying tapes unforgiving, constantly being
prayed over for forgiving, and yet never seek the sacrament of reconciliation.
The sacrament of reconciliation where the Almighty Himself comes down and makes you
a new creation so that you can go forth and be.
The sacrament of reconciliation that gives you the grace to forgive yourself, so you
leave the guilt behind and you go away strengthened with who you are, that you truly are a witness
with head raised up, because he who is has forgotten that he has even forgiven you.
Can you hear that? And yet, and yet my brothers and sisters, we do not frequent
that sacrament. Do we?
We don't even teach it in the life and the spirit seminar.
And it's a main tool against Satan.
knows that when you go to the sacrament of reconciliation, you have stepped.
a light that was given by the almighty father, and he can't touch you.
He doesn't care if you go to many tapes and listen.
If you don't go to the sacraments, he doesn't care.
And then the biggest one of all.
Do you realize my brothers and sisters, the Eucharist, if we had a bona fide witch here
and we had 2,000 hosts and only one consecrated, if it was a bona fide witch, they would know
immediately out of that 2,000 hosts, which one was consecrated and yet?
How many of us go to daily Eucharist?
How many?
How many of you realize that the Eucharist is not symbolic, but it is truly the body,
blood, and soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ?
How many of you realize that for 15 minutes at least when you receive the Eucharist you
have within you flowing through your veins the blood of Jesus Christ.
You don't need another minister at that point.
The blood of Jesus Christ is now mixing with your blood and it's one.
Just say, Lord, as you flow through me, touch the brokenness, the physical ailment within
me.
Heal me.
Lord, as your blood flows through my vein, cleanse my family line for many hex curse and
spell.
And my brothers and sisters and Jesus, it's that simple.
But the emphasis within the renewal and it's the renewal to renew is on ministry, and that
has its place.
But you don't need to be prayed for deliverance for five hours when you can go to the sacrament
of reconciliation and the Eucharist and be free.
Don't place your strength and focus on men, but go to the sacraments.
That's where it's at.
That's where the forgiveness, that's where the healing, that's where the touch, the moment
of touch, when Christ Himself.
And now the sacraments of marriage, sacramental grace.
Talking to people in the renewal, throughout the country, I'm amazed that people do not
know what grace is, and yet there's very few Satan worshippers that do not know what
grace is.
I struggle with that. I'm not correcting. It's just my pain and how much as we as leaders have not given.
Can you hear that?
We have actual grace, sanctifying grace.
And this is what's given to us when we call out and ask for it.
And yet I would go as far as saying that 80% of the people in the renewal do not know what it is.
Isn't that sad?
And yet we're going to go out and fight Satan when Satan knows already.
And they know who we are, but we don't know who we are.
I'm not putting down, but I'm really challenging you.
You don't go forth into battle unless you're equipped with the best equipment you can be
equipped with.
Am I right or wrong?
So you don't go out without the sacraments behind you, do you?
No. There's nothing there to fall back on.
And people say, I go out, but you can go out with the Word of God, but if you truly
know the Word of God, it would bring you to the Word and flesh, wouldn't it?
which is beautiful, leads us to the Word in flesh, which is Eucharist.
We are called, my brothers and sisters in Christ, not so much to have extraordinary
gifts.
but to see the extraordinary and the ordinary.
Can you hear that?
You know what it's like when I sit sometimes at mass, and I watch people at a healing mass
going up to Eucharist, and they're receiving the author, the giver of life, their healer,
their brother, their lord.
And they walk right by it because they're waiting to get parade over by Betty Brennan
or Father Macalear.
I was in the cathedral once and I watched this happening.
And I looked at the Lord and I said, forgive them.
but they know not what they do.
And I stood up and I said, I'm really sorry, but I have come from the pits and I cannot
allow you to make me a messiah.
I will not lay hands on you or pray with you because you have not allowed yourself to
receive nor have you recognized Jesus Christ, and therefore you're not making a nightle
out of me.
That was a hard word to say, and I really shook when I said it, but do we not do that,
all of us?
I'm not saying that being prayed over a ministry by people with gifts is wrong.
I want you to hear that, but you have to put it in its right order.
If you go to a healing mass, the moment of healing is when you receive the Lord Jesus
Christ and when you come up later, the person just gives you the touch, but the healing has
already taken place.
Can you hear that?
So what I'm saying is, you see, when we don't know this, we're always looking for a healing
mass.
So what happens is, again, even though we're in the renewal, we do not see the spirit within
the sacrament.
So we don't what an ordinary, what we would call, because no mass is ordinary, an ordinary
mass, we don't see it the same as a healing mass.
But it is, isn't it?
It is, every Eucharist is a healing Eucharist.
So if you're hurting, you don't have to wait for the next healing mass.
Pick yourself up and go to your local church.
And don't tell me the priest is not Spirit filled.
My answer to that is, put your hand over the bread and wine and see what happens.
Don't you tell me, because he's not emotionally manifesting something, that he is not spirit-filled.
That's judgment.
And the Lord says, what? Judge not.
And yet we judge.
Who are you to say who's Spirit Bill?
I'm gonna ask yourself some questions because I was told to challenge today.
Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ?
Do you know the Ten Commandments?
Do you know the precepts of the Roman Catholic Church?
Do you know the magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church?
Ah, the Magisterium is the teaching body of the Roman Catholic Church.
All that's taught from that is approved, that's the best way to put it.
And you have to know that.
Because it's a very strange age.
And you have to know what the teachings of the church, so that if one of the shepherds
go astray, you can challenge them.
If you don't know it, you'll just go astray with them.
Can you hear that?
I'm not going to say we have bad shepherds, we might have bad shepherds.
have uninformed shepherds or shepherds basically at times that are broken.
So they're going to tell you what you want to hear rather than what the value system
is because it's too heavy and they have a need to be liked and loved like all of us.
Can you hear that?
I'm in no way attacking priesthood.
I want you to have that clear.
I'm talking to anybody that's in a leading position.
Be very careful, the Lord Jesus Christ says to you in scripture, under who you place
your headship.
So now, we're going to learn, right, by this time next year, what Magisterium of the Church
is, what the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church are, where they came from, so that
we can go out there and go forth and be truly witnesses, right, right, okay.
Do we all know the seven sacraments?
Let's take the sacrament of reconciliation.
Do you all know what the firm purpose of amendment is?
A firm purpose of amendment means that before I've won the sacrament of reconciliation, I
have examined my conscience, I have, without making excuses for my sin, looked at them,
and I have made a firm purpose of amendment to myself that I'm going to enter into the
struggle of my flesh, and I'm going to give up the occasion and the person that's caught
in the Bible.
And if you really know Jesus Christ, then you know who He is in His teachings.
And the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church came down from the Lord Jesus Christ, can you hear that?
So get some good teachings on the sacrament of reconciliation in your parishes and in your prayer groups.
Can you hear that?
All right. The precepts of the church. Do you know them? How many people know the
precepts of the church?
Yet you're telling me you're Roman Catholic!
I'm not, I hope you know what, I ask forgiveness is not put down okay, but I'm really trying
to challenge you.
I'm challenging to go forth, but you can't go forth unless you are who you are.
And if you don't know the Ten Commandments and the value system, if you don't know the
presets of the church, and if you don't know the infallibility of the papacy, then you're
not Roman Catholic, you're not practicing to the best of your ability, wake up!
I don't want to say you're not Roman Catholic, that was a little strong.
Alright.
But really, you know, we're going to go out, we're going to find, fight Satan.
And Satan says, hey buddy, you have a machine gun, you don't even know what kind of ammunition goes in it.
Yet, yet, we'll go to teachings, and I give them throughout the world, different types
of spirits, how to do deliverance, how to do exorcism.
We wouldn't have to do as much as we're called to do at the Roman Catholic Church, and you
and I, my brothers and sisters, are the Church, would really embrace.
what the Lord Jesus Christ gave us.
He says, if you know me and love me, you will keep my commandments.
You'll be obedient to my church.
If you don't know the precepts of the church, if you don't know the infallibility of the
papacy, if you don't understand what doctrine is,
If you don't know what the doctrines are, you're kind of lost.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I expect you to run down to the library, but I expect you to challenge the leaders in your
prayer group to get people in or let make them and the religious and the priests get
in there and start teaching you so that you can pick up these weapons.
Can you hear this?
You know, I always look at the renewal I know in my own life as the Lord Jesus Christ kind
of said to me, you know this, it took out of the darkness.
out of your parish and I had to put you in the renewal so I could remove the scales from
your eyes so I can show you the extraordinary gifts so that you can see the action of the
spirit within gifts on people.
that you can recognize it and develop it and love it and then Liz when you see
that because you're so weak and I have to take you apart then I'm gonna send you
back into your parish
And I want you to see the same life there.
Well, when he did that to me, I said, come on, Lord, you know what are you doing to me?
You bring me up, you put me down here, using me as a seesaw here, and look what I'm doing.
And he says, yeah, too much pride, Liz, to get down up your horse.
So I said to him, well now, I don't know what you're talking about, and he started to show
me.
I went to Mass.
I started to pay very close attention to the liturgy, to the unbloody sacrifice of Calvary,
and I started to recognize within the liturgy that was done in this very poor church by
a non-carismatic priest, all the gifts of the Spirit.
the intercessory prayer, intercessory prayer.
the forgiving before the consecration. It was all there, and I never thought before.
Did you know that? There isn't a charismatic gift, really, that we know that's not present
within the Liturgy of the Mass.
Did you know that?
That's a good test if you're growing.
Because you might be growing, and this is, again, not put down,
you might be growing in emotionalism,
and not in good, solid doctrine.
So the big test after you spend years in the renewal
Can you see the extraordinary in the ordinary?
can you see the extraordinary in the ordinary like my first day here yesterday
morning I gave a teaching I was very led to talk about Jesus in the tabernacle
And I think one of the things I'd like to share with you is in my own life, I have a lot of friends and stuff and they call up and they say,
I'm having a hard time, can I come over and you pray with me?
For the body blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ is in the tabernacle, and sit in front
of him and say, Lord, touch me.
You see? But they'd rather get on a bus and travel five miles to get a word of discernment
from a Betty Brennan or a touch of healing from a Ralph DeOrio. And what the locksome
is, they don't go to the giver of life with the same expects and safe. Can you hear that?
How many of you recognize that when you walk into church,
When he said to you, I will not leave you often, I will never abandon you.
He hasn't. He's in every cavernic of the world.
Did you ever think of that?
I mean, he's really in every tabernacle of the world.
It's not just a present, his body is there, his blood is there, his soul is there, his
ability is there.
The person who ordered Jesus Christ is there, and I have to listen to people telling me
I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and I say, when did you go and visit
him last?
And they'll tell me about the last set of tapes they listen to.
And we're wondering why Satan is roaming the world?
And you, my brothers and sisters, are the chosen!
You have a moral obligation to yourself and to your brothers and sisters in Christ to learn.
There has to be a time in your life when you say I'm going to grow up, I want to hear the heavy word.
Nobody wants to do it.
Nobody wants to do it in the renewal. Make them feel good. Let them jump up and laugh and sing.
And Satan says, laugh all you want, but I'll have the last laugh.
Because you guys don't even know who you are.
Here's your God giving you all these graces, and you rather listen to tapes.
What is going to get us into the kingdom, my brothers and sisters, is not gifts.
I don't care if you have the most extraordinary gifts in the world outside of love,
but what's going to get you into the kingdom is virtue.
How many of you know what virtue is?
Again, I apologize, not put down.
You are called to be a virtuous people, not a gifted people.
I guess there's no measure of holiness, no measure at all, in fact I know, I know.
It's a pure sign, a good sign of weakness, because he chooses the weakest, so that flesh
may not glory.
There's no measure of holiness.
You might impress man, but my brothers and sisters in Christ, you can go to hell and
impress a man.
And that is the Lord Jesus Christ.
We're here to impress only one.
And that is the Lord Jesus Christ.
I have people saying, oh I'm going around now and I'm going to develop the catchment.
They say, yeah, don't you think it's nice?
I said, sure.
I said, well, I'm going to give up this,
and I'm going to give up that, and I'm going to go up doing it.
And I say to them,
Well, do you know why you do things?
They say, yeah.
I'm talking to spiritual circles, I say to them, why are you doing this, is how I'm doing
this for the honor and glory of God.
As I know, I'm doing it all for God.
I just told him the other room.
And somebody says that to me, I go like this,
because I know something stinks and Denmark.
Because there's no such thing, my brothers and sisters,
there's no such thing as a pure motive.
And God knows that, but man doesn't want to accept that.
So we delude ourselves, and we're on a level of spirituality that we're not, and we allow
it to happen.
You see, we'll see the game plane we're even doing in the renewal.
I'm not even here, totally, for the honor and glory of God.
I'm a very weak human, imperfect being, there's other reasons I'm here.
Maybe you don't want to hear that, maybe you can't accept that, but I'm not here for you.
I'm here for the Lord Jesus Christ, and I can say, I need to be here because I'd like
to be light and want it in love, and I need the acclaim of the crowd.
That might sound imperfect, but it's real, and it's truthful, and with that kind of integrity,
the Lord Jesus comes into the light, not with the other game playing.
There's two types of love.
Bileo.
and agape. We lose a lot sometimes in the translation
and I want you to hear this, really hear it.
I love you, and you're my friend, and I'll support you.
I will totally deny myself of everything, grip myself, and I will die for you.
Peter, agape, die for me, strip yourself right.
Peter says, filio.
Jesus says the second time to Peter. Do you love me? He says, Peter in the Greek agape.
Jesus says, Peter says to Jesus, Bileo.
And we lose it in the translation.
And the third time that Jesus turns to Peter, I want you to hear this, he says, Peter, Celio.
And jeez Peter says Jesus feel you
Peter didn't pretend to be anything he wasn't.
But because of his integrity to this is where I am, and I no longer have to play games and pretend I'm this great leader of yours.
He knew who he was and he accepted who he was.
And he didn't try with his mouth anymore to give something that he didn't have.
And it was that right after that that Jesus turned around and said to him,
feed my lands and feed my sheep.
Not because he had his act together and was willing to go to the death form.
He understood who he was.
He no longer had a play to his brothers and sisters in Christ that he was a spiritual
being that he was not.
And in that integrity and in that kingdom of life, the Lord Jesus reigns up to be the
head of the church.
Can you hear that?
yet within our own communities we have our rules and regulations and if you
don't measure up you're out and yet you might be throwing a Peter out because you
have judged man
The need within everybody, the primary need to be in the end group.
and we end up losing our integrity with Jesus Christ.
It is only when you can strip yourself before your Savior, not even your brother, and say,
I did this to you.
I did this too because I needed to be long.
I did this too because I needed somebody to tell me I was good.
I did this too because I wanted to escape the pain in my home, and when you have that
kind of integrity, you have that kind of integrity.
And only with that integrity do you reach out and touch with integrity, the humanity of Jesus Christ and then divinity flows.
That's simple.
Really, that's simple.
integrity of man and then you're not too caught up on whether you've got a
word or you didn't get a word whether you have a gift whether you don't have a
gift
We have healing, or we don't have healing.
was the cause or you do something or the court didn't see you do something then
you stopped serving man because you kind of developed a sense of humor about
yourself you say dear lord here I go again blew it and he says okay now that
you know you're blown it maybe you let me come in here now and do a little work
here give me a step to the side now Liz I said all right
He says, watch how I do it.
He says, now, if you want to join me, the two of us can do it.
It's okay, that's a good idea, God.
But before that, you become your own God.
Can you hear that?
So gifts can be very dangerous.
In the beginning, it's fine, but I'm talking if you're in the renewal three or four years.
If you're a Roman Catholic, you must start seeing the spirit alive within the sacramental
church.
It was there before the renewal, can you hear that?
Everyone here should be going to the sacraments of reconciliation at least twice a month.
And NASA's in the whoopee thing, and it's great if you have flowers and music and great and it's good.
But you should be able to go to a mass where there's nothing.
And before you is the on-gluddy sacrifice of Calvary.
I can remember years ago taking my son.
It was 15 at the time through charismatic mass.
He was standing beside me and he was watching.
He just leaned over and he didn't say to us.
I said, you all right?
Owen, he says, just mom's fine.
At the end of the mask, the superior came up.
And the other person said, Owen,
He says, you know father I did, but I have a problem.
He said, are you a Eucharistic centered community?
And the priest looked and I said, sure wrong.
He said, well, you know, I'm not too into this and I don't know too much about this.
that the sign of peace, the broken body of Christ, is lying on the altar, waiting to
be distributed, to touch broken mankind, or pre-circum, he says, what's wrong with this
kid?
And he said, what's disturbing me is,
That all the women are lined up to hug the body of a priest, twenty on a line, where is
the broken body of Christ?
There's bedroom at the final piece.
And the broken body of Christ is lying there, and somehow we lose the track of what's going
on.
Can you hear that?
So sometimes, and that's understandable, it's good to go to your local parish where
it's low-key.
You're going to come out without too much emotion.
but you might have more depth. Can you hear that?
I want you to know I am charismatic, and I am in the renewal, and I'm no way playing
it down.
But at the same point, you know, there's so much that we as Roman Catholics do not know
that we go around.
You know, when you say Jesus Christ is Lord, He's Lord.
And when you say Jesus Christ is my personal Lord and Savior, you better think about what
you're saying because there's a Roman Catholic if you're saying that Jesus Christ
life is my board and Savior.
And you mean I'm in total obedience to the teachings of God.
All the teachings of my brother and sister in Christ, not just one or two,
all of the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.
If you decide not to play with one role, you're out.
And that's because they've gotten away from the cross, we don't want any pain.
So when you say...
that Jesus Christ is my personal Lord and Savior, and that I love Him, and He says to
you, if you love me,
Keep my commandment, keep what I have called you to be.
Then you're called back in a very strong way to sacramental church.
And I believe the Lord Jesus Christ is bringing the renewal back into sacramental church because
the time is running out and Satan's having a field day.
So all I'm going to say to you now is that when you go to the Liturgy and you receive
Jesus Christ within you.
And the words at the end of the Mass are, go forth, well, go forth as a practicing Roman Catholic that knows their faith, that knows who they are, that has been tempered, that has been tried.
that has been tempted beyond temptation,
that has known the pain of saying no to themselves,
has known the pain to embrace a truth and a doctrine
and a faith, basically, that says you can't have everything you want.
And you walk out there knowing that with these weapons behind you and with grace and with
the Lord Jesus Christ, there is nothing that you can't overcome, and it's only been a
And that's what it means.
So you can tell by our little talk here today.
We have a lot of teachings.
We have a lot of learning to do, right?
And that's okay.
You're not supposed to feel down, or you've done anything wrong,
but this is a moment of healing.
This is what Satan doesn't want to anybody to stand up and say,
hey guys, you're going a little bit to the left, come back.
and I'm saying it. Get back to the sacraments.
You'll smother him right out of this land, and that's what we're about.
But people want to cast out, and they want to do this, and they want to do teaches on deliverance.
Deliver yourself with the Lord Jesus Christ in the sacraments.
If everyone here knew, really knew the power of the presence, the realization deep within
them of the body, blood, soul of Jesus Christ, if everybody here was a jelly communicant,
don't tell me that the world, this whole area wouldn't change.
And that's what I leave you with, no Sacramento church, no that God himself, that Trinity
has left you, not abandoned, not orphaned, not alone, he is present in every yokeress,
every consecrated yokeress.
every tabernacle of the world. He's at every liturgy. Mary, his mother, is there.
Braetaha, ask her to intercede for you.
Ask her to bring your peace. But please, if I leave you nothing,
I want you to know that there are seven weapons to fight Satan.
The greatest weapons that you can have, not gifts.
and please don't turn away from them. Please, I beg you not to.
And why does Satan have a field day?
I tell you why. Just think of it the last few years
before they used to have to practice in the woods.
Because years ago people went to the sacraments.
The power out there from walking
with the sacramental grace within you kept them under
cover. Did you know that?
And now, it's the great age of psychology, and I'm not opposed to that account for myself.
Okay?
But we don't seem to need sacramental grace and Satan is saying, wow.
now I can have a few kids over here get into a cult now I can let the bizarre
sexuality come out because all this grace is being wasted and he has a
right thing to come in because whether we know it or not part of us is still in
darkness
But now I'm challenging you, really, no longer beating darkness.
Please, I beg you, know what sanctifying grace is, know what sacramental grace is, and
know how much that is a tool to fight him.
You will see, if we can only get everybody in the renewal to go back to the sacramental
church, you will see the power of God, and you will see the listening of the manifestations
of Satan.
Just know that and may God be with you and may his eucharistic presence be always with
you.
Amen.
I don't know if I'm going to come back.
I don't know.
I don't know if I'm going to come back.
I always get a little nervous when I have to follow a wonderful speaker, like Father.
Where do I begin? I guess I will tell you a little bit about myself, a lot of you basically know, so you understand.
I was born in Catholic, and I was raised to Catholic.
I went to Catholic schools all the way through.
I even went to a school in Europe, Loretto, which was known for spirituality and for the
development of discernment.
It was the same school that Mother Teresa of Calcutta was a geography teacher.
So it isn't that basically I grew up in a sense of seeking.
these things. In fact, I think I was a daily communicant. I had some sort of a spiritual life
as one would have at that age and truly loved God. But then circumstances happened to my life.
I was leading somewhat a sheltered life and came back to this country and found out in
a sense that my mother, God rest to solve because of loneliness, of sending her two children
to make sure my father had passed away, that they got a good Catholic education, basically
put us in boarding schools in Ireland and returned home and worked.
to give her children what she never had and in the loneliness of this
started, basically, silently, quietly, drinking.
So I basically came home to that and I was like a really sort of shook from the essence
of my being because it was something that nobody had prepared me for.
And life started to go on like that, all of a sudden I was shocked and I started to look
at things and I started seeing things in a different way.
I can remember once being coming in I guess maybe at 3 o'clock in the morning and those days we used to go up to New York we take the train up and it was a place called Germantown they had a lot of Irish dances there and I can remember going to one and coming home one night and my friends got off on the subway at the station before I did.
And I got up and I was walking up Eastern Parkway and this car pulled in and it was a
parish priest.
And he says, Betty, I said, oh, hi, Father.
He said, haven't seen you around lately.
I said, I've been going to other churches.
Oh, that's nice.
He said, it's four o'clock in the morning.
I said, I know I was up in New York and I'm just getting in.
He said, well, he says, I have a great idea.
And I said, what's that?
She says, why don't you go in and get changed?
She says, no, meet you for breakfast at six o'clock.
So I said, all right.
So it was sort of like in a sense that I was well taken care of.
I remember him that day saying to me,
you know, you can play all the games you want,
but I don't know what road you're on.
He said, but whatever road you do take,
He said you have to remember one thing you were made for God and it echoed in me
so life went on then it was good. I met a wonderful man, but it was very good to me and
we got married and
Things were going fine, and then I had a child that was born with a terminal brain disease
just totally taken back, if this should happen.
And it became a long time of years of learning how to govajra,
putting in the tube, make sure in the tube was in her stomach
and not in her lung, testing it so that I wouldn't drown her
if I even gave her a drop of water, milking her bladder,
moving her bowels.
She lost her sight, the only one that she basically
recognizes myself, and she had to suction her every 15 minutes.
So, I was very, very angry, and then the Lord did take her, which, in a sense, now looking
back, it was a wonderful gift that He did take her, and we moved, we moved a couple
of times, and one of the places, I'm a cellist, I play the cello, and I decided I had to do
something for myself to get out of this misery that I'm in, and I joined an orchestra.
And I became very friendly, very innocently, with the number one cellist and the officer,
no matter a fact, that after it was over our practices and things, we'd all go out for
coffee and the two of us would remain there and sit and talk and talk.
And it was an interesting thing, because it was the only one in life that really wanted
to hear my pain.
The only one, he'd sit and he'd listen to me, he was sort of a healing influence.
I always went away feeling calmer, more peaceful, you know that feeling when somebody just really
cares for you and they listen and they can hear you and there's no judgment.
But I didn't realize who he was or what he was into.
And it ended up in a sense like now in hindsight, I look at it and I realize it was a form of
negative inner healing.
Because at that point I was able to state, like I was frustrated with God, and he would
encourage me to say this, and angry with God in the whole bit.
So after about seven or eight months, I remember him saying to me, he said, of course you don't
believe.
in this God, who's supposed to be so good.
that he would allow you to suffer like this in your child.
And I can remember that at this moment I can
See, exactly where I was sitting and I just looked at him and I said,
of course I don't believe in him.
And I was shocked at what came out of my mouth,
shocked to the point that I actually, to this moment,
can feel the hair standing on my arms and I didn't know what it was.
But I had basically transferred, counter-transferred with this man,
not knowing that he was a psychologist and he was working,
not knowing in a sense who he was.
So we went and we played once at this concert and afterwards my children were away on vacation
My husband was away basically working and I was sort of free for two days, which is wonderful
Basically when you have a lot of things to do at home and I remember them all saying that they were going to a party
So I said, well, gee, where's this party?
You're all getting together and nobody's invited me.
And they said, now you wouldn't like this party.
And I said, sure I would.
He said, no, you wouldn't.
And I said, well, let me try it.
So finally, Kimo, he said, you know,
I really prefer that you didn't go.
Maybe another time, maybe the next party.
And I said, listen, I'm going.
This is the only free time I'm going to have.
I might have another opportunity.
Very strong will.
So what?
So I went to the party and they went there and it was nice as the regular, we were talking
music, sharing music, playing little pieces, whatever was going on and at one point they
said, listen, we were a group and we had the business meeting and I'd really prefer that
it would just stay here.
entertain yourself, do whatever you want to do, and we'll be out when the meeting is over, so I said, fine.
So after a while, maybe about, I don't know, say 20, 25 minutes, I heard this chanting.
So I was curious, I went over and I listened to the door, and I'm saying to myself, what
kind of a meeting is this, that they're chanting?
So the last thing in the world I expected, so I opened the door.
and I walked in
And I was dumbfounded. There they were in the midst of a black mass, and I became so terrified
I was petrified I just stood there. I couldn't move one way or the other. I just stood and watched and looked.
saw them doing whatever they were being, what they were doing at that point. I'm
not going to get into it. And I remember like just being stunned and when it was
over, basically coming out and being in a state of shock like what is going on
here.
And at the same point, having transferred on to him, meeting with him every week for hours,
this was a man who was my mentor at this point, this is a man who I felt loved me, this is
a man who cared enough to hear about my pain, who really cared about me, not what I should
be doing or should not be doing, but accepting me for where I was at.
I was a goner.
There was no way I could disassociate from him.
I didn't know what way to turn.
So he just looked at me and he said, do you know what we're doing?
I said, uh...
I don't know too much but I have a pretty good idea and he said to me, well don't worry
about it.
He said, we'll go out and we'll talk.
So we talked and needless to say, out of the need that was in me, I went to the next
meeting and the next meeting.
And I got really, really involved.
These were not basically your average people, they were educated people.
They were fine musicians.
Some of them were wonderful teachers, some of them were professors.
It's not like what you would consider when you look at somebody and you say,
oh boy, that person must be into Satanism in the occult. You would never pick them out.
Wonderful people, they couldn't do enough for you, they were helpful.
It's almost like a reverse-sized Christianity.
So it was quite a blow to understand that this is what you were into.
But needless to say, I knew what I was into and I didn't move out because of my need,
because of whatever lack was in me at the point.
That was many, many years ago.
Oh, one of the other tools was there for a while, I was always sort of into the Battle
of the Bulge, and I remember going in one day and they were all hypnotizing, and I said
oh gosh, why don't you hypnotize me?
I said this is the beginning of this.
and they said, well, I said so that maybe I could lose weight.
And then it all sort of came together in the sense that here I have a high
priest of Satanist not knowing anything, who I thought was a nice guy, hypnotizing me.
I don't know what sort of a suggestion was basically put in, but I should have been able to, regardless of who or what or my pain was, been able to walk out of that room.
I couldn't. I was totally paralyzed.
And years after that, when I came out of that, that type of, I almost had to be deprogrammed for whatever went on in that session.
Because no matter where I'd be I would hear this chant at this point now
I had left and thank God I'm back into the Lord and I'm I'm struggling to be free and doing all that
I'm basically called to do and I'd be in in the car driving and I would hear this chant
And I find myself just driving and ending up in front of one of their doors.
And it was a period of total protection from the Lord Jesus Christ because
I was almost like I would be startled and I'd wake up and I'd say, what am I doing here?
This is not what I want. This is not who I am.
I've already given my life to the Lord Jesus Christ. Why am I back here?
And then they would follow me. I can remember ones basically being at a prayer session.
I remember I was on 84 and I had left around 1 or 2 o'clock in the morning and I was on
my way home and this car came out of nowhere and it slammed into me and said, oh my God.
And they pulled down the window and they're shouting, who's your God now?
And they could go up at exit three, I think it was, but when I got home, I had the whole
side of my car, and my husband came out and he says, my God, we were in action.
I said, no, this is what has happened to me.
And this went on and on and on for about two or three years, the phone calls would come,
you know, when you're going to come back.
So what I'm just trying to bring out that it's very, people just don't turn around and
you're dabbling in the old cult.
You can be very innocently dragged into the old cult if you're not aware if you don't know the dangers and the pitfalls.
If you don't really understand who you are.
If you don't understand that Jesus Christ has the great of power, if you don't really
truly understand that, if you don't want someone in union with him,
You know it's a very easy thing to do to get sway and to get caught up. It doesn't come along
I always say to people Satan doesn't arrive in a little red suit in the black pitchfork and he said, okay
Why don't you try this? He comes as an angel of light
It looks good. It feels good
That's why each and every one of you are cool to discern
Where is this going to lead? Does this bring me closer to Jesus Christ?
If it doesn't, it becomes questionable.
Is there a Satan? Yes, there is. Are there demons? Yes, there is.
And you have to go through this and you have to realize this.
But I don't think in a sense that you have to live in a total fear of it.
Because if Jesus is Lord, then Jesus is Lord.
But you do have to be aware, like I don't like the mentality either of seeing him under
the bed, seeing him behind every door, because you're doing exactly what Satan wants you
to do.
He wants your eyes off Jesus Christ.
But first I beg of all of you to learn who is this Jesus Christ and who are you in Him.
This is very important.
Because if you're not grounded in that, in a sense, why are you delving into the old coat?
Now, I'm not watering down anything, but we are called number one to be one with God.
We are basically called to know Him, to love Him, and to serve Him.
How do we get to know Him by reading the scriptures?
knowing who he is, knowing his love, knowing what he's calling us to do.
To be honest with ourselves is to go before me and say,
Hey, here I am.
To look at our ulterior motives for the things we do.
Have you ever heard people say, I did this all for God?
Oh, I just did that for God. Don't worry about it.
When people say that to me, I get a little nervous
because I feel they're not tuned into who they are.
Can you hear that?
What are your reasons for coming here today?
Look at them. They're mixed. There's no such thing in life as a pure motive.
There's lots of ulterior motives for why you and you came here today.
Doesn't necessarily mean that they're bad, but you have to keep yourself from a form of delusion.
This Lord Jesus Christ that we're called for.
And I think I don't have to get into that because all of you know that.
But this is the very foundation.
Before you enter into any kind of warfare, before you enter into all sorts of stuff you're
looking for, get yourself number one in the state of grace, as much as you know that you're
in the state of grace, very, very important, and seek God as the center of your life.
know that if you're with him all things nothing can harm you. Nothing can harm you.
I can remember once being in this restaurant I couldn't mention the name
with my girlfriend and we had just gone to math and in those days with the
children and everything it was wonderful to have a breakfast that he didn't have
to cook but clean up after and I think it was a dollar 98 special that bacon
egg sausage the whole works.
So we had bought that and we sat there and we were talking and all of a sudden my friend and
Went white and she kicks me on the table. I said and what are you doing? Have you lost it?
She says no look at the other table. So I looked over and there were three
rough and tumble looking guys and they had the upside down across and
They were trying to get our attention and they were dipping their finger in the water
and drawing a pencil on the whole bit and answers to me, let's get out of here.
I said, Anna, I just received the Lord Jesus Christ, and I just paid a dollar 98 for my
basement eggs.
I said, I'm going nowhere, if anybody's going anywhere, they're going.
I said, no, no, no, let's just get out of here.
I said, Anne, I'm not going to do that.
I said, I'm not going to create a scene, but watch.
She would totally fight.
So I just got up very quietly and I sort of walked over basically as if I was going to go to the ladies room
And as I walked by them
I just did the sign the cross behind one of them and I kid you not
I mean I was dumbfounded too within 20 seconds. They were up and out of there. I would like to stand see
So this is the awareness, you know, you don't have to fear unless you're not right with God.
You know, because Jesus is Lord, it's very important to realize that Jesus is Lord.
Then you go around it and is there, first of all, they're going to take your periodically,
anything distracted from God.
I was interesting.
I was listening to Father talking about angels.
This whole thing with angels drives me absolutely insane because there's so much talk about
angels.
I'm wondering, where is Jesus Christ?
It becomes an obsession, a fixation.
You know, when they talk to their angels, sometimes they're wondering who are they speaking to?
These are the very same people that go to the end of the world as a sale in angel and they pass by 30 churches along the way and they won't come in and say hi.
You know, we'll run to these things, we'll do these things, but these are things that we have to basically look into our own life.
How much time do
How many of us spend an hour, or at least a half an hour, if we can, alone with God,
preferably in front of the Blessed Sacrament, how many of us do this?
These are things that you have to ask yourself.
And we wonder why Satan is rampant.
Because we're not living up to what God has called us, we live up to.
It's wonderful to come here.
Like one of the things I did ask, Carl and I was very glad to see you.
She didn't do this.
She built me up.
I mean, this is ex-Satanism.
You know, and all this glamour in this whole bit.
No.
I was a broken fallen away shackling.
Because of the mercy of God, who's loved for me, he sought me.
You see, we think we seek God to guide us constantly seeking us.
So I get a little bit upset when this other thing is built up.
But not just because I'm ashamed of it, but I'm more than that.
Everyone here is more than that.
So I get a little bit. I want this to be aware that I don't want you seeking into the glamour of Satan because that's one of his tools to distract you to see his power.
We don't want to see this power.
We know who has the greater power, but we want to be aware.
We want to be aware of the suppleties.
I should have been more aware that in my brokenness, what was going on within me, that
I would take a complete stranger and sit and talk to him because out of my need.
I need somebody to hear me.
But isn't it sad that on the other side we don't have too many people that will sit with
the friends and hear them?
It has to be balanced, do you know what I'm saying?
In a sense, you can't be going out running after Satanism
when the duty of your state in life is to be home with your children,
clean your house, whatever else God is calling you to at that moment.
Does something amiss here?
Do you understand what I'm saying?
We have to seek to get our life in order.
And when our life is in order, then we go forth into the battle, but not before that.
When I go before the Lord Jesus Christ, He's not going to say to me, Betty, did you pick
up your armor and run out and go after every demon that you saw in the world?
No, He's going to say to me, Betty, did you love?
Did you take care of your husband?
Did you try to build your relationship with your husband?
How present were you to the children that I basically gave you in life to raise?
Will they the first priority in your life?
Was my life with you more important than running out to X amount, and I'm not opposed to prayer meetings?
Where did I call you? Did you discern where I was to go? You were to go today.
These are very, very important things.
And why I have to say this is in the sense that we're all here and ready to run out for the battle.
But you can't go out into that battle until you're prepared.
How often do you get to the sacrament of reconciliation?
Do you really understand what the sacrament of reconciliation is?
What is your prayer life like?
What do you pray in the morning?
Are you getting up like most people and running around taking a shower?
Do you get up to the teen minutes earlier and say, okay, Lord, I'm here.
You spend time with Him during the day.
If you become one with Him during the day,
are you aware of the eucharistic call?
So you're prepared, and what is the armor of Christ?
The armor of Christ is Christ Himself.
Put on the armor of Christ, put on Christ.
Go out, get to mass, go to the Eucharist.
And to me, this is probably not good theology,
probably a father will have to correct it later on.
But to me, the call is, when I go up to receive Eucharist,
I'm saying amen.
And yes, Lord, this is the body of God.
blood, solid ability of my Lord Jesus Christ. But I'm also saying yes to discipleship.
And when I partake of that, Eucharist, I say, Lord, these are no longer my hands.
I give them to you so that you may continue to embrace, to hug, and to affirm, and to build
up the body of Christ.
As I receive this Jupiter's Lord and you become one with me, take my feet and direct me
where I am to go to feed your people.
Take mine mouth, so when I speak about another at the uplifting.
Take my mind so that I can think, judge and observe as you would.
Take my being Lord and take my life.
Now we're ready to go out.
Because we know who we are and we know who the enemy is, but if you don't know who you are
You can't really face the enemy. The slaughter you. I know I was a victim of that
I went to a school where we got up with Vennie, Thomas, Tommy. No, we had grand silence. We had mass every single day. It was mandatory
We had prayer, but I wasn't united to it to understand, I wasn't connected.
We have to allow our spiritual life to come alive.
Then we go out and with that gentleness and that awareness, it's very easy to see what is
not the Lord Jesus Christ.
It's very simple.
You don't have to have a great gift to discernment.
It's that you have to be somewhat seeking to be in union with Him.
And when you seek that and when you start to become that, you become aware of what's not
in order.
You see, you've already given your ears to the Lord, so you hear more clearly.
So somebody comes home from school singing a little ditty, come on down,
Satan won, come on down, Satan too.
It's a very, very cutesy little song.
But you're summoning something.
And you have a moral obligation to go in there and correct these things, and you're going
to be marked as a fool, but that's what we're called to be, a fool for Christ.
But you have to do it in a knowing awareness way, and you have to be with Him.
You can't do this by yourself.
You're just an instrument that we're using.
And you have to remember that, I'm just an instrument.
I'm an instrument of the Lord Jesus Christ, and now I'm sent for it to be aware.
Remember, going back to what I said earlier, it was start.
It's not going to be something that you'll see a bunch of children, so we're inclined to all dress them black with white faces
And we say, oh my god, they must be into something
You don't know. You don't have that kind of discernment. You don't make that judgment because regardless of what they're into and what they're not into
Love overcomes all of this
So you approach them with respect, because regardless of what they're into, what they're not
into, they're a child of God.
Maybe let us stray.
You're not there to hit them over the head.
You're the basically to simply separate.
what they're doing from who they are. So you can judge, discern, this is wrong, this is extremely
sinful, but this is a child of God. And the key thing when you're going to deal with anybody in
the occult is, why is the reason for their involvement? So now we separate, we say we'll take a young
child teenager. We separate basically.
We call it that this behager is wrong. It's wrong because it's not of the Lord and we call it
Now the most important thing on top of that is to look at this broken body within this child and to look at this child or
Adult and say what is the brokenness within this child that is causing this behavior?
And this is what they call in satanic circles the hook
They knew with my life that I was not heard, they knew my brokenness.
They knew my need on a psychological level, and they played right into it.
So my woundedness was the cause, in a sense, of my choice, of my need, of everything that
went on after that, and I couldn't break away.
So we're dealing with anybody in the occult.
You have to find out what is going on in this person.
Why did they have to do this?
So you get a teenager with the old machinologist that has one of the reasons we're here today
of everything that's going on.
And the main thing is to find out what is the brokenness within this person.
And we reach that brokenness and we touch that brokenness.
Did he hear that?
And then we bring them, and then doing that we're in truth, and we bring them into truth.
Prior to that, they're not going to hear this.
They might even be more alienated.
we have to be very, very careful of that.
And what will they give?
When we talk to the child, you'll see,
usually there's a poor home life,
or it might look like there's a good home life,
but mother and father are not present.
A mother and father are not present to each other.
They're not being heard on a level.
and they want to be long. We all want to be long.
The greatest need within every human being and drive it to belong to the in-group.
So now they're basically, they're ready to be picked up, and it becomes as an innocent
stuff.
Oh, come on.
Why don't you come over to my house tonight?
And let us play.
Oh, we'll play with a Ouija board.
I want to tell you a funny story about the Ouija board.
My children have grown up with this stuff and my son had reached an age in college that was I don't know
I don't know about all of this stuff my mother's into and all these teachings and the old cult
So he was at a local university, but I think I consider it a good Catholic university. I'm not gonna mention the name
And he was with a bunch of maybe four or five other kids, about 20 years old.
And I guess they had gone out between them.
They could only afford a couple of pieces and maybe two or three, six packs of beer.
That's how they were going to spend their Friday night, but they had a Ouija board.
And most of them had gone through high school together and they ended up in the same university.
And they were asking questions of the Ouija board, like for instance, how many?
brothers does John have and the kid would go three and it became like a big
joke or how many girlfriends has John had and whoever was playing the board was
really working it. So they were all lying down and my son told me they also
he was lying on the sofa, hysterical laughing at this whole thing, because they were trying to,
they were really just telling their own feelings. And then one of the boys, who happened
to be his name was John, said to the Ouija board, what about Owen?
All right, you know, spelt it out, you know, one about Owen, and the Ouija board started to work in the beginning, and it was
fascinated, and
the Ouija board spelt out can't
My son went white, because he knew none of his friends understood or knew that terminology.
And he jumped up and he took that Ouija board.
They thought he had lost his mind, and he swung it right through the window.
And then he proceeded to tell them.
They became terrified, and the faculty really might think that basically wherever they sleep,
these poor men will walk up at two o'clock in the morning, because they had five young men
that wanted to go to a confession that was so absolutely terrified, not the right motivation,
but it may have been totally aware that there was another thing.
So I want you to know, it's not a toy.
It's an occult instrument, it's there for fun.
The main thing is to stir up curiosity that you'll seek more and more and more.
The Ouija Board is a direct occult tool that has been given basically and is used in
covens.
So, it's nothing to be played with. Dungeons and Dragons. I have parents looking me like
I'm in shame. When you get into the second stage of Dungeons and Dragons, you're actually
in toning prayers that I heard when I was involved in witches' covenants. See, you're
not innocent games.
And you can't walk in and say, you know, let me tell you something.
I really didn't know. It doesn't matter whether you know.
Once you went to Satan's territory, you're in there. You're in the battle.
Some of these crazy games with these kids, you have to know what the children are watching.
The scholar said so wisely, some of these TV shows, and they're fun, but you have to
use the discerning thing.
I can remember one night sitting in my own home and my husband came home from work and
I was sitting with the children and they were watching masks.
And when we were laughing, we thought it was funny.
They were a little bit older, they're teen years.
And my husband says, honey, can I see upstairs for a minute?
I think it's sure.
I think it all must have happened.
And he said, why are you sitting there watching mash?
I said, why are you kidding me?
He says, why are you sitting there watching mash with the children?
Well, I said, what's wrong with it?
I said, Joe, come on.
He said, no, look at this program.
The doctor always tells you that he's married.
He's just got a letter from home or something else happened for home,
and then the next minute he's in the tent committing adultery.
And the next thing he said, the priest, is always the joke, the stupid guy, the funny guy.
He said, I don't want this in my house again.
I got a little bit of a sermon, he doesn't usually go off like this, saying, you are responsible
when I'm not here for the development of these children, so I told, what do I do now?
You know, they're rather rebellious age, you have to use your thing.
And I said, you know, kid, this is what we're going to do.
And I pointed out what Dad said, and they just look at me and said, wow, we didn't think of
it.
So this is what we're going to do.
We're going to sit down, and we're going to develop.
We're going to sit and watch the program, and we're going to see where the opposite message is.
And it really became exciting.
They would look for it, and they'd go, uh-uh, that's wrong, that's sinful, uh-uh.
I heard the other words come in this way, mom, did you pick that up?
And as a result of that development, I mean, they'll come in now, I think my son walked
in and my younger daughter would be there, and he'd just walk over and turn off the TV.
And he's pretty with it.
Young man.
Thank you.
say, you can't watch this.
They'll get up out of movies and they'll walk out.
And I like to think of them as normal kids.
They're involved in everything.
You know, I have one kid that graduated
all American scholar athlete.
I had another one.
I mean, they're just very dynamic kids,
very active in their schools.
went on to grad schools, very active there too.
And they're normal kids.
And I think what thrills my heart is without a lot of lecturing,
but with really good examples and a lot of clubs
and a lot of understanding,
I remember saying to my daughter,
I said, you know, I said,
Today is the feast day of saying is your feast day happy feast day. She was up in my old life and
She said what exactly does feast day mean? So I explained to her and she said oh
Blashma I really wish I had known this before because I had an appointment
One of the professors and I could have changed it and instead of going mass and such a such a day
I could have just changed my day for going to mass
Because you had hectic school schedule and I just said to her oh
How often? I try to get there about four or five times anyway.
Now this is a kid who was on the soccer team all around.
It was something that she picked up from the house.
To understand this is very, very important.
You know, these are the things to prepare.
I'm getting off a little bit.
I'm really sorry here.
I'll try to get back on.
But it's important.
You see, this is important to make them aware,
first of all of who they are, the giftedness is out there.
Without making them feel like they're out in less field.
You know the sacrament of reconciliation. We didn't have that much money because we had three kids in Catholic school
We tried to keep them in Catholic school all the way through through basically for many many reasons many many reasons and
So the thing is that maybe once a month we started off once a month once everything you know, we'll go to confession
And most of the time they went because they have to confess it without the feature.
But it was made like not a heavy burdensome thing.
It was sort of an exciting thing.
It was a fun thing.
It was a family thing.
We were disgusted.
We would talk about it.
and they became aware. I have one child in the sense of it's that has very, very high IQ and I used to fight
especially in grammar school in high school to keep her in her grave and I
can remember I had to go and do a week's workshop. She just got into the Catholic
high school and she says to me, oh, mom, let's need this morning. I said, oh, I said,
you have a big test of his back. I got home on Sunday.
Oh no, she just started high school two weeks before that.
Oh no, I'm going into the tenth grade today.
I said, you're what?
I'm going into the tenth grade today because they told me that I was going to be bored.
So they went on and on and on in front of her and afterwards she
basically was coming out like, wow, I must be something.
And I hasn't did a very beautiful thing.
And you have to know my husband, New York City Fireman and no officer, just a regular
Joe, real man loves his children, knows how to hug, knows how to affirm.
Quiet and he said to Michelle come on into the chapel. I want to talk to you
We went into the chapel and he said to her, you know, this is wonderful that you know that God has truly gifted you.
But it doesn't make you any better than anyone else working in this school.
Because what you have received is a gift.
And with that gift comes a tremendous responsibility to help and to reach out to those that are not
as gifted.
So if you get 100, you said you're probably will or 110, I think that's wonderful because
you have done your best, but I also want to hear where you sat and you've helped somebody
else who is not as gifted as you.
And then I will say, there's my mission.
because there's a responsibility with everything that God has given you.
And then little by little, she started to develop an awareness.
And I know I'm going on and on, but the trappings, I can say, well, you know, I can sit down here and I can tell you all about Satan.
I can tell you about Coven's, what goes on in Coven's.
I can tell you about satanic worship.
I can tell you about black masses.
But we know it's there.
That's why we're all here.
It's the people out there we have to talk to.
But you basically are the people that are being called into the battle.
And you must be prepared.
And in order to do that, you must know who you are in Him.
You must know the main weapons that He has given all of you.
It's so sinful that sometimes we don't want to hear it.
For the most, the weapons that we have to combat Satan are the seven sacraments.
So, know the weapons that God was calling you to use in this battle.
Really, what is the sacrament of reconciliation?
What is a firm purpose of amendment need?
What is the Eucharist?
How does the Eucharist affect me?
When I've walked up there and I say amen, what am I saying yes to?
When I turn around and say, I'm a Eucharistic person, what does that mean?
What does that mean?
That isn't truly me.
These are important.
What is confirmation truly me?
How is it integrated in my daily life?
What is the awareness?
This is where you begin.
And when you know that, you will see what's disorder out there.
Otherwise, you're just emptying and jumping into a battle, leaving the power and the main source behind you.
It is not you that does it. It's the Lord Jesus Christ.
You will be aware of the person of the phony. You will be aware of the double message.
You will be aware of what's going on out there.
Maybe later on this afternoon, yes, we'll get into a little bit more of what this one should talk should have been about about the trapping.
But you have to know who you are.
And it might be a good thing today if you would sit for a while in front of the Blessed Sacrament and say,
Lord, where am I with you?
What are you calling me to?
What is it in my life that I have to spend some time and get into order?
What is my relationship with my spouse?
Really how much time do I spend with my children?
You know, we're cool to do many things.
But we have to be sure that these many good things are in order, because many times St.
Muse's thought as a tool, the destruction.
I think you've seen this, and many groups have seen it in prayer books.
You've seen it in many, many forms of life, but what is the destructive force here?
Why isn't this work in the should be?
Will everybody take a half a day?
and sit down and what are you about and what is at home that has to be straightened out then
get out into that battle. I know it's not a raw raw message that you're receiving today but
it's basically what you have basically been called to. You must get your life in order because
when your life is in order you will recognize the disorder and you will treat it as God called
as to treat with love.
truth and love. And that's an interesting thing to say that I want to leave you
with a little bit to think about today before we go heavily into the occult this
afternoon is that what did God call us to do? He called us to love. Have you ever
thought of that?
the call to love. I can go around here and they'll say, well what is love? Well it's
a nice, it's a nice smile, it's a hug, it's a word of affirmation. These are
gestures of love. But God said, I'm not going to leave you alone, I'm not going to
abandon you. Let me give you the definition of love.
Well, you say Betty? Love is kind.
Are you kind to yourself, Betty?
Because if you're not, it's going to be very difficult to be flying to the next person.
Love is patient, better in your patient, not me.
What's going to happen is when you've gotten your deal with my broken people,
if you don't develop this, it's going to be very difficult for you to be patient.
Love does not keep a list of wrongdoings.
Betty, do you? Oh sure.
I can remember my husband says I have the memory of an element.
I can remember the first day I met him.
I have to let go of that because how can you start anew?
So you, I'm calling you to develop before you enter a battle.
You must know who you are.
We don't send soldiers out to fight the war unless they're trained.
Recurrent Theans, examining your conscience every night, drop the word love is and say,
Betty is kind, Betty is joyful, Betty is patient, Betty is not jealous.
Put in your own name, start working with these things, they're not all going to happen
overnight, but one thing, and it's an interesting thing psychologically, when you start
to develop kindness within yourself, that doesn't mean take your plastic cards go out
and run them off, you know what I'm talking, but you start then exuding kindness.
Can you hear that? And you must love!
Because if you don't love, you can't go forth and be a soldier, you're not carrying the message.
If you don't know who you are as a Roman Catholic, if you're not the total union with
the papacy, if you only choose what you're going to believe in and what you're not going
to believe in, be very careful before you go out and start fighting the forces of evil.
you're going to be set up.
So look into yourselves.
This is probably not the word that you wanted to hear today, but I'm here basically to train
the troops and you're the troops and this is how you have to train.
This is your boot camp.
Get out that Bible, read Corinthians, take it seriously.
And then when you finish that and he said, well, this is what you have to do, you're called
to love.
And then he said, and love your neighbor.
And he said, you know, I'm not going to leave you out in the, the, the boondocks here.
I'm going to tell you exactly how you're supposed to love your neighbor.
Does anybody know where that is in the scripture?
Yes, how does he show us how we're supposed to love our neighbor in detail?
You see, everyone here should know it.
The transition gospel values map you five six and seven
First, I tell you when Corinthians what love is, then he says, and this is how I want you
to utilize this great, tough gift that I'm giving you so that you can love your neighbor.
And I've been here that wasn't with you one mile away.
I've worked with him in another two.
Think about that.
What does that mean?
And when somebody asks for your coat,
give him your coat also.
It's all there.
If it's striking on one cheek,
offer also the other.
Remacking 5, 6, and 7 is a transitioning gospel value and it's the development of virtue and we are called to be virtuous people.
And unless you know how to be virtuous and he gave you the answers to it, how are you going to go into a battle against the demonic?
You're not going to have the alienation.
It doesn't mean that all of you have to be perfect,
but you must be striving for perfection.
This isn't your thing, this isn't a glamorous thing to do.
He is calling you for to save souls, to bring you and to bring them into union with him.
Anybody can free a person, but the Lord is basically calling you to bring them to him.
Can you hear the difference?
Can you hear that?
Can you hear you must know who you are.
I'm not wondering it down, and now when you know you are, you go out, and the teenage
is this wicker thing.
And this nonsense of white witchcraft, there is no such thing as white witchcraft, it's
all occult.
it's all occult. Now when you know the truth, let's go out in the truth and start
discerning what's going on out there. And why I'm saying this so strongly to you
because we have one of the biggest covens in fact and in fact a member of the
Illuminati that lives right in this area and there's only 12 Illuminatis in the whole
world. And you people are going to sit here not to
knowing who you are, not knowing where grace is, where it's coming from. It's not great to
just get a bunch of people and put out a fight for the Lord. Who is this Lord Jesus Christ?
What is it calling to you individually? Are you answering your call? So you can be prepared
to get out there and go after the enemy. When you get that straight, then you'll go into
recognizing the occult.
I say this very strongly because sometimes the lack of spiritual life, really it just throws me.
We have here the Lord Jesus Christ, his body blood so in divinity.
We have it in every eucharist in every church.
You don't have to raise your hand, but do you really know that?
How many times do you walk by the church of its open?
Do you seek that?
My gosh, maybe I'm going to come visit you today.
Can you sit before him and say, Lord, you are God and I am not.
The highest form of praise doesn't necessarily have to be what we find in prayer groups and
not putting down prayer groups because I go to them myself.
It's not the great crash of speaking in tongues which is wonderful, but the greatest form
of praise that you can give to anybody, the greatest form of worship, is to sit in silence
and acknowledge who the other person is, to be present.
And we must be present to our Lord Jesus Christ.
We're at there like Wyoming.
We have to be aware that if somebody comes home, it's not so much, yes, we are disturbed,
but more of setting is what is happening to the mystical body of Christ.
And many of us know what the mystical body of Christ is.
And many of us know what our place is in the mystical body of Christ.
We can talk about all the other stuff and it's wonderful, but the call is to be in him
and to go forth with one mind, one heart and go forth in and conquer everything that has
to be conquered because we know who we are and we're in truth.
that were not taken apart like I felt because I had a knee.
I wish somebody had told me this and my whole scourge is available.
I would have sought him in the blessed sacraments.
I would have came in and cried in what my pain, knowing that he was real.
I wouldn't have need some satanic psychologist.
I wouldn't have made it back.
If I even had a brief incentive here, whoa, very of me,
let me hear you, let me bring you, come with me before the Lord.
You are a day for the salvation of souls.
That's nice. But it's not the call. I was in a situation once, well many times, I came upstairs and said,
Father, I have a woman downstairs, but one case.
I said, well, I need somebody. She's willing to come to the second. Well, I had a goth day.
I said, oh, and I'm waiting for Father so and so.
I said, well, Father so and so come here, maybe I'll go down now. We have a goth day.
So I said, what were you a dame for? I'll don't start that he just don't start.
I said, what are you a dame for?
So I said, I'm going to fold the dish up.
So this became a joke. So he came to the phone, go ahead and call him the bishop. Here's the phone.
So I get on the phone and I call him. I had just been with the bishop the night before.
So I got a cigarette, so this is Betty Brennan. Oh, Betty can't worry if I could see a usual last sign.
The whole thing is that I really need to talk to the bishop and have a problem.
So she said, short, let me see.
She gets on the phone, he says, Betty, he says, what? What's going on?
I said, what?
I said, Bishop, I had two of your ordained men here.
I said, I have a woman downstairs, I have a fountain.
She wants to come back and they go, oh!
Oh great, nice show buddy.
You know, I let them carry on and everything like that.
And he says, put them on the phone.
I said, bitch, you want to talk to you.
Oh buddy, you know, you're alright.
Hello.
And they came to me later to why did you do that to us.
So I didn't do anything to you. You did it to yourself.
Well, what are you talking about?
I said, Father, it would have taken ten minutes to hear this woman's confession.
But just go down. I said, this is her soul.
You know, well, I said, if a named person came and he had run down, I said, do you not understand the scripture yet of the thief, the good thief?
You know, the Lord Jesus Christ, to show us the work, it always moves me to tears of one individual soul.
Okay, one individual soul, click somebody that was despicable.
And now pass the society, somebody you and I, even today, probably the ones who want to sit and have lunch with,
is a non-acceptable.
And he promised this person that kingdom, because of his faith, but got also taught us.
Look beyond the surface
We'll come to that skin and realize that everyone out there that you walk by is a soul
that he created in his image and likeness.
He created them because there was something within them that reflected back to their
hymn, his love.
When I look at people now, it's like, oh my God.
Lord, help me see what I cannot see cure my blindness
So the scrubby guy over there
Who's going to come in and sit beside me and I see her and say hi and start talking to me
That I don't feel oh my god one of my friends from the thing that rather that I would recognize this is an opportunity
That perhaps you truly are sitting in talking to me
This is what it's all about, it's not rank.
It's not yes, it's the known measure of holiness.
And now when you hear this, I'm going to call you, I'm getting a high sign here.
Please spend some time now and looking at yourselves, preparing yourself with a battle.
That's what the name of this talk is. I just changed it.
It's a preparation.
for the battle. I'm sure Carl is going to kill me after. I hope not. But that's what it is.
Because I'm sitting here and I'm looking and I'm saying, let's get alive. Doesn't mean we have to be
whoopy, but get him in here, center.
That name of this talk is safeguards against evil. I hope I stay within the subject matter
I'm going to go back in a little that we said before we left
basically the safeguards against
Getting involved in the occult says number one knowing who you are knowing who you are in Jesus Christ and having a real act of life
Sacramento life
That's very very important and the main tool that you have in the sense is the liturgy
Now this might sound like it's off the mark
But I want you to know the times basically that I was involved in Satanism the thing that made me more aware that the Roman Catholic Church
Was the true church is that every ritual they did was to take up on all the
Sacraments within the Roman Catholic Church
and I just want you to know that. The other thing I think it's very important for you to know
that there isn't a bona fide witch that cannot tell the difference between a consecrated host
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consecrated hope. And it makes me realize that sometimes it makes me really
question in a sense the way we're going and sometimes in church and you'll hear
people say to me I've had a priest recently say to me oh you have a bread box
mentality.
He said, you have a bread box mentality.
I said, Father, I give you one year.
You don't clean up your act.
You'll be out of the priesthood.
And I don't say that basically.
And I don't go around doing that.
But we don't know who we are.
And we proclaim who we are.
We proclaim who he is.
But do we really, really know in our gut that it is the body blood,
soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ?
Do we know in a sense that that's what we're called to?
Because these are the very things that they're using against us.
They need a consecrated host to do a black mess.
Do we come in a genuine flesh?
Do we sit down in front of him and keep our mouth shut and say,
you are God, and I am not.
And sit in presence in that war.
Or we are afraid to proclaim who we are,
because it's not the in thing.
Are we aware of the liturgy of the Mass and the healing that takes place?
And the buildup that takes place, the death, passion, death and resurrection of Christ, are
we entombed its very important?
You have to be prepared in what better way can you be prepared if you can, but to attend
the liturgy of the Mass.
What is God saying to me in the liturgy of the Word?
I'll use an example when the priest gets up there and he says and reads something and
script your life.
For instance, Peter, do you love me?
The Lord is really saying to you because the Master's in the now saying to you and the
pure Betty, do you love me?
And I have to hear that.
John, do you love me? It's not a passive thing.
And we listen attentively to these words.
What is God saying directly to me?
How is he questioning me?
How is he encouraging me?
How is he calling me into a form of discipline?
And then basically the mask goes on, and I'm not going to go into it in detail because
I'm not here to give it an in-depth study and I would have to do some study myself on that.
But basically when they're preparing the gifts, we're preparing our own hearts.
This is the moment when we're preparing to go into the battle. This is the moment
when the Lord says, place Betty or everyone here by name, place in this cup, your
woundedness, your brokenness, your knee
Put them all in here, the people that you're called to pray for, the people in your family,
the people that you can't get along with, the people that I've asked you for prayer,
and you enter in your imagination, you place this all in the chalice.
It's not an imagination, imagination is the doorway to the soul.
And when the Lord basically when the priest elevates the wine and is changed into his blood,
everything that is in that chalice is touched and transformed.
This is not a game.
I can remember going out to Washington DC and spending like five weeks with the Indians.
And there were group of Jesuits there, really wonderful, wonderful men.
And their big complaint was on horseback.
They couldn't cover their territory.
I remember sitting around the evening, they had like a little bonfire, and I said,
Father, have you ever tried just visualizing your territory and placing it in the cup?
And he said, you know, I never did that.
And about five months later, he wrote to me,
and he said to me, you know me, I'm always questioning.
I said, you know, you're a good mind.
We're called to question.
He said, I can't believe what the Lord has done
without me.
said I'm dumbfounded but I was I and I was I was just so overjoyed with his
humility
that he could accept that and I think it's another thing for us to realize that the Lord
Himself comes down and lifts us up to the Father for us to be transformed at that part of the Mass.
And one only can receive according to the mode of the receiver.
So you have to get into the liturgy, read the catechism, go for instruction, understand what it is,
minute by minute, because it's so alive.
It's just so alive and then it comes a part of the Eucharist and I went into that
today when we become one with him.
and we go out then because you see it's not we have these perpetual
iterations and I love them and I think it's wonderful but it's no longer me
and God you know it's you God and community it can't stop there it's not I'm
going in Behold on with God but that's wonderful but it's you God and
community
reconciliation. I'm a counselor and many times I feel like people who don't
go back to the sacrament of reconciliation and go rid of their guilt and receive
absolution from the Lord. We wouldn't be doing as well as we do. Really, there's a
real call for this. There's just a real call for this and I want to pray that
that sacrament comes back to where it should really be in life and taught and
taught in the schools.
You know sometimes it's really sad what we don't teach in the schools and you know we can't put the
finger on the nuns and we can't put the finger on the priest and the brothers because I can
remember going in and something in a class and Catholic class grammar school and my son was
going to learn.
It was going to have, you see the sacrament of confirmation and I went in there and went
around the class and of course I was horrified.
Nobody knew anything about the gifts they were about to receive and they were going to
be making this confirmation in two weeks.
So I came home that night and I did a time after the kids had gone in.
I was when I sat down and he said, well, how did it go there?
I said, oh, I said, I'm going to go into that school and when I get a hold of this sister.
Someone said, well, I'm going to let her know, I'd be in C, D, E, and F.
And no, I'm going to really give her the business and my husband said, what are you doing that for?
I said, well, I entrust it and paid all this tuition all these years and this kid comes out and he doesn't know anything.
He said, no, no, no.
So what we're going to do, as he said to me, is we're going to kneel down and repent, repent
of what?
Paying the tuition?
I was really upset.
He said, no, you and I are going to kneel down and repent because the primary person who
in charge for the education that children as you and I. And we gave it to another group
and we didn't check. No, do we go in and basically asked or did we build up and encourage?
He said, we are the guilty ones.
And I never forgot that.
So we have to be very careful.
What is our primary responsibility and are we doing it?
He should have been getting this at home as well as in school.
Not that the school shouldn't have been doing something, but we were just as neglectful.
And that's of the subtleties and that's how the subtleties of evil basically comes in.
It's not just all demonic.
You know, there's the flesh, and there's the world, and we have to look at that.
So we know who we are, and we frequent the sacraments, and we understand the sacraments
and the call of the sacraments.
We have basically a evangelization program in our parish, and we go out and we knock
them in the doors and say, hi, my name is so-and-so, I'm from such-and-such a parish, and
I'm here to talk to you about the Lord.
I was like, for me, like, my God, that belongs to someone else.
Until I read Move and Gents, it belongs to everyone.
Everyone is a more responsibility for everyone.
So now that you know who you are, let's go on to some of the dangers of the occult.
How do we recognize it?
How does Satan work?
And I must tell you, he's very, very subtle.
And he comes in so-called, glincy, I call it innocence.
He doesn't show up with a red suit or with a pitchfork.
He comes subtly.
He tries to desensitize people.
You become so used to it, you don't even recognize it, that this is not good.
I'll give you examples in my parish, and we're going to have a hay ride.
And I was in charge of the youth room.
And that was okay. I said, all right, hay ride sounds like fun.
I've never been on one. It was a new experience.
But then it was a haunted hay ride.
So I said to the gal, I said, why didn't you make up the flyer?
So she'd run in the flyer and she gave me three different flyers.
One had goblins on it, kind of cutesy.
One had little witches on it on a broom.
And I said to Han, I see you wearing a cross with a corpus.
And she said, yes, I said, could you tell me why you're doing that?
She said, well, it's blessed and it blesses me and person who's wearing it and she went
in through the whole explanation and I said, and what else?
He said, well, it protects me.
I said, oh, and what would the cross with the corpus on protect you from?
I said, well, that's very interesting, and I just sat and talked and I was trying to lead
around a little bit without coming out.
Sometimes, you know, you can come on so strong with the light that you can blind people
and you have to be careful.
So anyway, I said to her, I said, now, I said, this picture of the witch that you think
is very cute, and the goblin over here, that's very cute.
What world would you think that was from?
Would you think that that was, would be attracted to the cross?
I don't know.
I said, well, why not? Well, that's that scary stuff. And I said, yeah.
And she said, well, you know what I mean? I said, no.
I said, you're trying to tell me that belongs to evil.
All right, so we have a cross here with a corpus on it and you're telling me that that's going to attract goodness
Then what you're saying to me then I have a witch here and a goblin
That's very innocent and cute. See what do you think that's going to attract?
If it's a symbol of the netherworld, what do you think it's going to attract?
And she just looked at me and says, I get it.
I said, so let's put little pumpkins.
on it, and go drop it, go point it.
That's the subtlety of it. Children are exposed to this. They're exposed to this in innocence.
But it doesn't matter if it's an innocence, it's still an occult tool.
Why would you teach a child an occult game if you're proclaiming to be in the Lord Jesus Christ?
Why would you teach a child an occult song if you're proclaiming to be in the Lord Jesus Christ?
Why would you basically have a Halloween party with witches and dragons and
every other occult symbol possibly going if you're proclaiming to be Jesus Christ?
Well, it's two things, either you're an ignorance.
One of the two you don't believe in it.
But if you don't believe in the negative, then I question where you are in the positive
force.
You hear what I'm saying?
it's not innocent. It's suppled.
Seems like a nice little game of the development of the mind.
When you go on to first step one and first two, the actual sayings that are in that game
are actual rituals word by word that are used at a covenant meeting.
It is not an innocent game.
We all know the story of the exorcist, it's a true story, but it happened to a young boy,
innocently playing with a Ouija boy to 12 years old, became possessed.
Why are these things wrong?
Because it's seeking horoscopes, why?
It's seeking knowledge and power that is not of the Lord Jesus Christ,
in order to control your environment.
It's wrong.
And we don't want to look at it because oh, it's a simple thing.
Say answers, levitation, tea leaf reading, all the cycles that are out today were having
a field day with them.
That's not a gift that comes from the Lord.
That can be truly traced back.
It's occult and origin.
It's serious stuff.
Look up Deuteronomy, read it.
So you have to know, ignorance does not excuse you.
It does not excuse you.
There's nothing wrong in having a Halloween party.
I had Halloween parties with my kids, but they weren't allowed to dress in anything that
was of an occult symbol.
And I sat down with them and I explained why.
But I didn't tell them they couldn't have a Halloween party.
I didn't tell them they couldn't dunk for apples.
I didn't tell them they couldn't go trick or treating.
But I told them the origin, I told them what happened when this weapon falls into other people's hands.
And it begins there. It begins with the innocent children.
A 12-year-old, 13-year-old child could be a great witness for whatever.
They just have no qualms, no fears, no worries, they just go and they do.
They just grab on and they run with it.
We have to be very careful that we train the minds of these children.
You say, and we do have pumpkins and we do have other symbols of harvest, of the symbols
of life that we can use.
It takes a little effort.
We don't have to give a lecture, but you can just do it.
And you wait until you're asked the question.
And then when you're asked the question, you feel the person that's capable enough to
ask you a question, you really realize that they're not threatened and then you go in
with your teaching.
There's an old saying, I can remember once this wise old priest saying to me,
Betty, just be very careful that you don't come on too strong. It's sort of
been likened to. If you drop pitch dark night, you drop your keys and you know
it's an erudious of about maybe a foot and a half and you can't find them. That
ever happens to you, you drop something and it's dark and you can't find it. But
you know it's there.
I went, yeah.
And he says, well, you know, but he said, sometimes you see a light coming.
And you say, oh gosh, when the light comes from that car now, it's right here.
I'll be able to see it.
But sometimes when the car gets closer, you realize they have their bright beams on.
And you're just as blind.
You're just as blind.
as you were in the darkness. So you have to realize that most people are not
seeking to be evil. They're not trying to do evil things. They're just ignorant of it.
They don't understand. And we're called to go in with love and say,
listen, I want.
to hear me out. Here's the story. And most people will be open to that if you
explain. But if you go in with a ton of bricks and you go in angry, what happens is
defenses go up. Have you ever had anybody coming at you with anger? You're so
caught up building up your defenses that you only hear half of what they're
saying.
and you respond to defend yourself.
You see, you weigh out the situation, let me talk to you.
Let me tell you what I feel is happening here. I want you to hear me out.
Then if they don't, then you go on with the heart tactics, but I'll be kidding.
But that's very, very important, the approach.
Now we want to get into Wicca.
Wicker? And what we would call culti Satanism. Now what does culti Satanism mean? It means
people are into doing satanic things and satanic rituals, but they're not really hooked
into what we would call a covet yet.
They are a little bit more dangerous because there is no control and you'll find that really among the younger generation.
They get in there, they get a little power, they feel they have a little authority, and they go out and they do their thing and there's no boundaries.
and that's very dangerous and I think there is in the back I don't want to waste
time of what to watch for change in the person's personality they become
alone that their dress becomes a little bit different you'll
We will find like little 666s scribbled on their book and the gram will be drawn, the circle,
they'll have all these exacts, all the occult little signs that they know they'll start doing that.
Okay, you have to watch them at that point. Who are they hanging around with? What are
the hours? Who up to their room? Find out do they have candles? What are the colors of
the candles? Every color that they use in satanic ritual, every color denotes something.
on a level, the same way with the hoods. The hoods are lined, okay, and depends on the lining
and the color of the lining and the hood as to what echelon they're in, all right? Usually
with teenagers you have them experimenting and playing, but nonetheless very dangerous.
How do we get rid of a hex-carcus spell?
This is an interesting thing.
To me, just again, is the power of the Eucharist.
There's no ritual necessary for a person to get rid of a hex-carcus spell
if they feel that the hex-carcus spell.
It's simply receiving the Eucharist.
As far as you know in this day to grace, and as you partake, and the Lord becomes one of you,
say, Lord, cleanse my family line for many hex curses fell.
You know what?
It's that simple.
But we don't want to hear that, because even though we want a battle Satan, we want kind
of the glamour of the battle.
When we look at the Eucharist, the Lord God himself, he's very quiet and unassuming, isn't
it?
He's just sitting over there listening to all of this.
Sometimes I often wondered if we had open a tabernacle and would shoot out the
Star Spangled Banner and flares and everything. We might pay more attention. He's
almost too quiet for this hectic life on the level.
But that's who he is, and that's what we're called to him to emulate.
It's that powerful, saying, come find us with a glory.
I can remember reading in a sense that he started when he would have a penitent would
come in and it'd be repetitious all the time, and he wasn't too sure whether it was
compulsive of what was going on.
He would simply pray.
Under his breath and the name of Jesus Christ we authority given to me by the power of the keys
If there's any other entity here present that is not of the Lord Jesus Christ, I command you to leave at the moment of absolution
He didn't have to be loud. Didn't have to be audible. It was spirit to spirit
And he wrote how he started to see freedom when he did this on a regular basis
Some priests are open to that some priests are not
You know, this is the sad part, this is the really the sad part.
This is why we have to pray for those who are in authority, not just priests, not just
religious, but those who are in authority.
that they claim who they are, that they understand who they are united to, and they go forth with that.
You know, this is a hard age for everybody. This is the age of I call psychology.
In a sense, we're all trying to find ourselves, as if we could find ourselves out of him.
It's kind of laughable.
But we convince people to do that, which is sad.
So we have to pray, we have to pray for one another.
Prayer is a great weapon.
We can't do this alone.
You have to give another person the benefit of the doubt.
You're called to build up the body of Christ.
You're called to inform people.
Those in responsible positions have a moral obligation,
basically for the formation of those souls that are under them.
It's not a game.
Those that teach, it's not a game.
of the person. It also means the formation of their soul. You have to be very, very careful.
It's not all academics. There's much more to a person.
These are very, very important.
Okay, we get back.
Then when you get, as I said earlier,
and you find out that the child is involved
in something of an occult nature,
or maybe even involved in Wicca,
we have to find out
as we do in an exercise in many ways, what is the peg? We call it the peg. What is the reason
that they entered this in the first place? Why were they seeking this? And it's very important
to find out what the woundedness is.
Because that wantedness has to be touched, because out of the wantedness comes a need and
out of the need becomes a psychological craving and pattern of behavior.
So you can withdraw the person out of the growth.
and that's wonderful, but then the person has to get help and that
woundedness has to be touched and the emptiness in that woundedness has to be
touched with the Lord Jesus Christ and with people.
You know, I'll probably be thrown out of here for saying this, but I do have a great Lord,
love for the Lord and the Eucharist, but sometimes I need a hug.
You know, it's not that I'm saying it's not enough, but I kind of have to, I need a hug.
I need to go over somebody which would give me a hug.
You know, it's not that I don't believe the Lord Jesus Christ fulfills me, but I'm human.
I need something concrete.
I need a hug. I need to be told. You're okay, Liz.
I need to be told, God loves you.
It's important for us to do that for one another.
In the body of Christ, especially within our church, we're inclined to point the finger and
say, I remember, par or him when.
And we really should be saying, gosh, look what the Lord has done.
Look what the Lord has raised up.
to show the world that no flesh will be glorified,
to show the power that he has,
for those that seek him and love him.
But we don't think that way.
So we have to get into our mind
and we have to change inside.
It's sort of like a boot camp,
that's why I'm calling this thought today,
is to prepare you for the battle.
Because don't go in.
Would you think of walking in now, out of here, go into a nuclear warfare?
Your first reaction was like, oh my god, I would know what to do.
I'm not prepared, I'm not aware.
Well, that's very, very important.
So start praying today for the Lord would give you the wisdom and the fortitude and the
understanding and the counsel and the knowledge.
of what he's calling you to do.
The next thing is to be aware.
Yes, Satan is around all the time,
where there is great grace, there is evil.
But are we going to look around and say, oh, this is what Satan does or a Satan can do?
We know what Satan can do if we allow him.
I'd rather be looking at my crucified crest.
because I know what he can do and I know that he is the Lord.
So when you go out there, don't get so caught up in the power of Satan, but rather whatever
power is out there doing this, we have a greater power.
We have the power of the Lord Jesus Christ within us.
And the power of the Lord Jesus Christ within us comes from love.
So our approach to situations that are serious is love.
So we remove the child from the surrounding, we remove the child basically, and I'm going
to call them a child.
And you say, gosh, I've done all of this.
This is really great.
Now, the next thing is, who's going to sit
with this child of this person and hear their pain?
Who's going to hear their pain?
Who's going to hear their loneliness?
Who's going to hear their need with compassion and understanding?
And who is going to love them back into the Lord?
Remember what I said earlier? This morning, the work of one individual's soul.
One individual soul. We as Americans find that difficult because we get groups all the time.
We judge everything. How many people were there?
My attitude is whoever is here is because the Lord made sure that we're here.
You see, this is very important that we zero in on the individual work of one soul.
We somehow have lost that.
not neglecting your own soul.
Sometimes we can do that.
There was no thing that you score around saying,
always just to bother me,
is that I say to somebody,
oh, you're very, very busy.
Well, my work is my prayer.
Have you heard that said?
My work.
No, no, no, no.
That's the biggest deceit going.
Your work stems from your prayer.
Can you hear that? The saying is your work stems from your prayer. If there's no prayer life,
it will come to know it, believe me. And we'll do a terrible number on you. If there is
a prayer life here.
remain center to all of this. So I have the kid out of the occult. So they're
basically, maybe they were prayed over, maybe they had a spirit where it was removed.
It's not freedom.
We're bringing them to wholeness in the Lord Jesus Christ.
That's where it's at.
The subtleties of it.
This is a season for it.
This is when He shows up.
Christmas!
You know when everybody goes into the depression and everything, that's when your
coven sent out, spiritual depression, spiritual of discouragement, spiritual of
dissension. Everybody will not everybody who has ever been involved knows that.
If you're in the state of grace as far as you know, outside of the human condition, there
is no need to fear Satan.
If your eyes are on the Lord Jesus Christ,
There is no need to fear Satan.
So it doesn't become a fear game.
Because if you fear in something, you're really what you're saying is, I don't trust them.
Can you hear that? So we have to look in the subtleties the TV shows that are out today that somebody just mentioned earlier
I think I might have been carlop
These little games Samantha all these in cute little shows, aren't they?
But subtly telling us the power and
Bring into us a power that is not at the Lord Jesus Christ. Can you hear that?
Around this time of year, I cover myself to the blood.
The little songs that they teach the kids to play.
Teachers aren't involved in Satanism, which probably just don't know.
this is serious stuff it is serious stuff
So these are the things that we have to watch, Satanism is basically the same thing.
The main thing is you have a broken human being that gets involved.
What is the need within this person?
Get them out and touch that need.
I could go in and start teaching you about sayances and all these different things, but I'm not here to glorify Satan.
I'm here to glorify and to try to help you to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ who dwells in each and every one of you.
to bring you to an awareness of who you are, how important you are, and to bring
you to an awareness of your sacramental church. Can you imagine some of the
greatest comments in this, well not only in this area, every satanic ritual they
do is a take-off on a ritual,
within the sacramental church of the Roman Catholic Church.
That should make you excited.
So when you go in with that power and the authority and the state of grace, you walk
in quietly confident that he is within you and you have the power and the authority and
you walk in gently and you say, you know, I'd like to explain to you what I feel in
sense is going on here, perhaps you're not aware of this.
You might be left out.
I remember a priest like looking at me and say,
baby, that's pretty mid-evil.
I just was, I guess, two years ago in official exorcism in London.
And there were many, many peoples' psychologists,
like higher truths involved, and I sat there,
and I had to give the discernment,
but the discernment that the Lord gave me did not match what the Lord gave these other people.
So I sat there, Euchos is there and I just prayed.
I prayed again, got the same discernment.
You know, anything that God gives comes through this human being, but I stood firm with
it and I have one pre-say to me, Betty, can't you change it?
And I looked at it, I said, Father, I said, I would love to because I'd like to be popular.
I said, but I'm not called to be popular.
I said, and this is what I feel that I basically discernment I got.
And it could be totally wrong because I'm only a human being.
But I'm not going to make something up to play and please the crowd.
So we went through this whole exorcism and it was crazy and it wasn't working.
So one of the priests said,
Betty, give me your discernment.
You see, it worked, but at the same point, I was open to realize I could be totally wrong.
And you have to remain in truth.
And you have to remain in truth in who you are.
You have to remain in truth in your community.
You have to hear the thing that we don't want to hear anymore in this day and age.
You have to die to yourself.
But sometimes there's no self, and you're told, you know, that's a whole spirituality.
Really?
Really, that's rather interesting that it's all spirituality.
I just kind of look at these people and say, whoa, it's not all spirituality.
There's a difference of when you're basically trying to be a bride of Christ.
Or have you lost your way, and have you played into the crowds?
And I know such thing as a pure motive, and all of us have a little of thatness.
It's not sinful, but we have to clean up our axle a little bit.
We all have ulterior motives for the things we're doing.
I have a good friend by the Venn-Dik Rochelle that looks at me every time I do something.
I say, gee, that was great.
There's a lot of ulterior motives.
A lot of ulterior motives.
And I have to look into my ulterior motives.
your motives. I don't like what I see there at times, but I can bring it before God now
and say, listen, I'm doing this retreat. You say, and I'm here, Lord, because you've
called me, and I say, you know, Lord.
I just got an opportunity to do this retreat was an opportunity to get away out of the house.
It was an opportunity that my meals were handed to me.
It was an opportunity in a sense that people told me I was great and wonderful and I loved that and I got a chance to be in a hand.
I said, now when I look at it, I'm wondering, where are you? I don't need to shock you, but I said, Lord, I don't know where you are in this.
That you're there even if it's only one percent. I did that once I stood up in front of a group of people
I said I'm here this weekend because the kids were gone crazy was a week that we had these horrible snowstorms
I said I'm here because I just
a retreat, which I do, I love giving retreat. But now you're asking me to check my
motives. I said all of these are my motives. I want to serve God. I want to serve
his people. Okay.
I also have these very other human things that I like too, because when somebody
comes to you and says I'm doing this all for God.
Because there is nothing such thing as a pure motive.
I don't believe anybody in this room is in the unit of stage spirituality.
It's always mixed. Is there something sinful about that?
No, there is nothing sinful about that.
and what God wants us to look at that, not to chastise us,
so that what He wants us to look at this,
so we don't deliver ourselves
that we're on the level of spirituality that we're not.
That's what this is about.
You want to get up there and I say go out and type Satan.
But you don't have to go crazy about it because the power is within you.
You can just call it.
and call it, and call it. Eventually they will hear.
You don't want to choose a point of failure.
There's most people don't even know what you're talking about.
So you're there to basically to watch.
That's what we're called to do, to become aware.
Is Satan a reality?
Yes he is.
Is he proud in the streets?
Yes he is.
He's right outside the door.
He won't stay with us.
Second is waiting to get into your weaknesses, to get into with your egos, to get in with
your pride, to get in whatever else you have, your desire.
Sometimes it's a compulsive, drivenness.
Drivenness is not of the Lord.
When you find yourself very very driven then you have to sit down and start
waiting. What are my motors here? Let me clean up this act.
Can you hear that?
These are the important elements.
These are very, very important.
I remember I left to speak to a group of about maybe six hundred teenagers, and I just
came out the most popular person, I got to the podium, and they had a rock band.
There's no such thing as Christian Rock, you can argue with me later.
It is not the words, it's the beat.
Sit at that beat, and you are start, and you start to be stirred up.
And this is absolutely dead inside, I don't think there's anybody here that's dead inside.
But you start to be stirred up sexually and every other way, it just happens.
That is the deceit in Christian rock.
It's the being.
It is not the words.
They got you on that to distract you over change the words and then it changed the beat
So after I spoke to this great band that was over there that everybody loved
I knew I wasn't really very popular.
Then I just started to pray as an old boy did it now.
And as I prayed, gift went on.
And this dark clown was over this whole conference and I found myself saying
I cannot teach you about Satanism because about 90% of you here are not in the state of grace.
that went over like a lead balloon and I said I can't do that.
I said, but I'll teach you about the Lord Jesus Christ, this mercy and repentance.
So I was literally booed on the podium, and a couple of priests that came at me said,
now you did it.
And I said, I don't think I did it, I did what I was called to do.
That's it.
I went up into my room and I left the door a very dangerous thing to do.
And I just flopped in the bed and the only thing I could do was say the rosary.
There's nothing else you can do, just say the rosary.
And I said the rosary, and about a half an hour,
three kids came knocking at the door,
totally black, white faces and the whole bit
and they walked and I said, I'm dead.
That's was my first reaction.
And they said, why did you do that?
And I said, I did that because I care too much about each and every one of you to start teaching you about Satanism.
I said, when you're not ready for it.
So they went down and got a couple more.
Before I knew it, they were about 40 sitting on my bed
over around the whole bit, and they went down.
They spoke to the rest of the kids,
and they demanded that I be brought back to speak.
And I did.
And I spoke in the second of reconciliation. I went through the Ten Commandments.
We bought priests in from all over. Confessions were heard till 5 o'clock in the morning.
Kids were repenting. They just didn't know. That's what it was about.
That's the cool. You don't come out very popular, but that's the cool.
So these things are going on. There's a lack. There's a lack of education.
It's not cruelty or meanness on the person.
In a sense, I don't want to say the person is ignorant, but they're in ignorance. It's a difference there.
They're in ignorance. They're not ignorant. So be kind and gentle and the approach should be one of Christ. Let me teach you
Let me share with you. Let me teach you
And you watch out for the signs and you all know the signs
What do I do remove the person from the environment, but then if you're out there working a job?
Maybe and there's two in the family of working and I know it's hard then maybe you have to do without
Maybe you just have to do without and be a parent.
That's your first call, that's the most sacred call, the formation of your children
belong to you, the second TV and the Liz Clayborn and the Ralph Lauren clothes are not necessary
on one level.
But do what I used to do, I go around all the junk stores.
and I would buy the stuff and I'd cut out the labels.
And I would go down to James Way, I believe,
was in those days, and I called it P.J. Puteak.
And I would sew on, my girlfriends and myself,
we'd sew on all the labels.
My kids never knew that they were wearing
the five and 10 in Krisky's store.
But that's the way it was.
We had to get them a little something.
but you don't get caught up in this to see what I'm saying, just be who you are, but you have to, you do, it's very important.
And I know there's a lot of problems, but there's always a lot of problems. It's very important for the parent to stay home with the children.
And we have to, as a body, change our mind, because we're always inclined, even though
Christians and Catholics, to seek the well-dressed person, the moment the big car, and the
whole bit, we kind of overlook the one who's struggling with 10, 11, and 12 kids.
My girlfriend has 12 kids.
We go over there and have coffee. One will take one room, one will take the other room.
Okay, and that's the way it is. We have to support us. That's what Christian community is all about.
You say, it's not looking at the exterior, as looking at the work of that individual soul.
The struggle of that individual soul, my call to you, is get into the sacramental church
and go out there and I don't have to teach you the signs of Satanism, you already know
them in your heart.
It's the total opposite of what you're about.
So, get in union with him and walk out with love and correct it.
And when a person does something wrong,
even basically the greatest sinner in the world
that you might look at,
realize you have to call it because sin is sin, but what is the woundedness that is causing
that behavior? And you have a moral obligation to reach out to that person and to love them
into wholeness. That's the key. If you want to fight Satanism, love yourself in Lord and love
your neighbor in the Lord and love them to wholeness and Satan could not move.