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Team Bergoglio: Vatican spokesman Fr Federico Lombardi has denied allegations contained in Austen Ivereigh’s biography on Pope Francis. Ivereigh writes that during the last conclave the four …More
Team Bergoglio: Vatican spokesman Fr Federico Lombardi has denied allegations contained in Austen Ivereigh’s biography on Pope Francis. Ivereigh writes that during the last conclave the four ultraliberal cardinals Murphy O’Connor, Kasper, Danneels and Lehmann formed a group that organized the election of Cardinal Bergoglio. Lombardi’s denial fails to convince Italian vaticanist Marco Tosatti. Quote: “With all due respect for the four cardinals, the seriousness of the author and the amount of details contained in his book make that the disclaimer seems not to resolve Ivereigh’s case.”
Murphy O’Connor’s Fault: In the last chapter of his biography on Pope Francis Ivereigh writes: “The day after the Conclave, Francis met the whole College of Cardinals, including the non-electors, in the Hall of Blessings. When Cardinal Murphy O’Connor appeared, he embraced him and waving the finger as a sign of reproach he said with a smile: “This is your fault! What did you do to me?”.
Homosex Problem: John Weafer, a former Irish seminarian, now married, has produced the book “Thirty-Three Good Men” published by Columba Books in which he quotes a homosexual priest, Fr L who on one occasion went into a gay bar in Dublin where he allegedly recognized at least nine other priests. Not surprising Ireland has also had a strong pedophilia problem, which is often connected to the homosex-lifestyle. Weafer used to be the first lay director of the Irish Bishops' Council for Research and Development in Maynooth.
Saint Paul says the opposite: Sunday, Archbishop Blase Cupich - handpicked by Pope Francis for Chicago – was asked on CBS whether he would give Holy Communion to pro-abortion politicians. His answer: “The Eucharist is an opportunity of grace and conversion; it’s also a time of forgiveness of sins, so my hope would be that that grace would be instrumental in bringing people to the truth.” Unfortunately, Saint Paul says the opposite: “Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup.” And: “For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgment against themselves (1Cor 11,28-29).”
UNWORTHY
Alexis... good job! God bless you
Gregory
BrAlexisBubnolo, I remain troubled by your writings and taken as a whole they are far from being irreproachable; you are religious and the Pope is your Bishop; and you admit to having “speculated” about the narrative; you will have to do better than to relate a speculative narrative to proof; as a reporter you have a higher standard than that, and as a religious you must adhere to even higher …More
BrAlexisBubnolo, I remain troubled by your writings and taken as a whole they are far from being irreproachable; you are religious and the Pope is your Bishop; and you admit to having “speculated” about the narrative; you will have to do better than to relate a speculative narrative to proof; as a reporter you have a higher standard than that, and as a religious you must adhere to even higher standards, and since it is the Pope who is harmed by your writings, you cannot err; bring plenty of solid proof and witnesses, otherwise your report seems nothing more than a mere sham!

From my view your writings injure yourself, for it is not wholly truth or even upright and there is also a certain duplicity about it; even if your writings were only intended as a joke! Perhaps you will consider making a public apology to the Holy Father and make amends to all God fearing Catholics.

“He hath opened a pit and dug it, and he is fallen into the hole he made” (Ps. 7:16).

Veritatem in Caritate
BrAlexisBugnolo
Gregory, the Pope Himself has confirmed that Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor headed the campaign; Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor is our source for that. The denial given by Fr. Lombardi and Dr. Ivereigh's response indicate that his narrative does accuse Cardinals of violations of UDG. I am just a reporter asking questions. I only follow the truth, and my speculations thus far have been confirmed by Fr. …More
Gregory, the Pope Himself has confirmed that Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor headed the campaign; Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor is our source for that. The denial given by Fr. Lombardi and Dr. Ivereigh's response indicate that his narrative does accuse Cardinals of violations of UDG. I am just a reporter asking questions. I only follow the truth, and my speculations thus far have been confirmed by Fr. Lombard's denials, because I speculated what Ivereigh's narrative signified, I have said nothing about whether Ivereigh told the truth nor have I denied that Lombardi did. Your reaction therefore is very uncharitable and based obviously on the fact that you have not read carefully what I have posted, nor the Chronology of reports by many other journalists on the Team Bergoglio affair.

For that reason I ask a public apology for your insinuations, insults and false incriminations.
Gregory
BrAlexisBugnolo, I am inexpressibly unimpressed by your opine; clearly, you are no canonist. Your flagellation of the Pope seems to be nothing more than your tendency to undermine the Papacy. Being religious, you should be treating all with equal kindness, especially your superior, Pope Francis? He is your Bishop if you study Sacred Theology in Rome; and you do so at the Popes allowance. Even …More
BrAlexisBugnolo, I am inexpressibly unimpressed by your opine; clearly, you are no canonist. Your flagellation of the Pope seems to be nothing more than your tendency to undermine the Papacy. Being religious, you should be treating all with equal kindness, especially your superior, Pope Francis? He is your Bishop if you study Sacred Theology in Rome; and you do so at the Popes allowance. Even in the secular world when one tries to undermine his superior he can expect a severe judgment. Even God, Who is omniscient, did not condemn Adam until He proved to him his guilt. You are lacking proof, no interviews, no canonist! What would Blessed Tomas More think of your work? Surely, not praiseworthy!
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Gregory
@BrAlexisBugnolo, Grace and Blessings, Nothing can take away from the dignity attaching to the office of the Vicar of Christ, not even ungodly articles that mock the Holy Father and the Church. Your article admits that there seems no way to prove the allegations it makes. Your judgment to publish it is disappointing, more secular, introducing more deception; yet, sadly, it is not unexpected. …More
@BrAlexisBugnolo, Grace and Blessings, Nothing can take away from the dignity attaching to the office of the Vicar of Christ, not even ungodly articles that mock the Holy Father and the Church. Your article admits that there seems no way to prove the allegations it makes. Your judgment to publish it is disappointing, more secular, introducing more deception; yet, sadly, it is not unexpected. Religious should be taking a dogmatic approach to their faith; not a practical and non dogmatic approach.

Would St. Franis of Assisi, to whom Our Lord appeared upon the cross, publish far and wide such a deceptive article? Would an honest and trustworthy man publish such a deceptive article? Your conduct seems in variance with the practice and observance of St. Francis!

rhemes1582
@UNWORTHY

I hope you have a Blessed Day, being the Great day of Our Lady. The Immaculate Conception.
I will remember you in my prayers at Holy Mass today.

Many Catholics today have a heavy heart. You are not alone in these struggles.

Stay close to the Sacraments, and our Blessed Mother.
Remember : This too will pass.

I will look for you up here.

Be at Peace
UNWORTHY

UNWORTHY
Thanks Rhemes, I know were your heart is and I respect that...

I grew up in the charismatic movement, I was a novus ordo chorus guitar player, I have walked the poor of the poor street and I went to the passionist seminary to become a priest, thank God Im not out of the wrong i saw there, but all was just smoke in my past...

I have never in my life, never knew how beautiful catholicism is, such…More
Thanks Rhemes, I know were your heart is and I respect that...

I grew up in the charismatic movement, I was a novus ordo chorus guitar player, I have walked the poor of the poor street and I went to the passionist seminary to become a priest, thank God Im not out of the wrong i saw there, but all was just smoke in my past...

I have never in my life, never knew how beautiful catholicism is, such a beauty that I can only look back and truly say, all was just smoke and mirrors... thank be to God that He has shown Mercy to me and have open my eyes to the latin mass...

I wish that I would've been raise according to the old rite, I envy how things that could've nurture my soul if they would've been there for me from the beginning, I guess that I would've been better, with more love for the Lord.

My only wish is to love the Lord, so much, so much that I could die with a smile for Him, His Gospel and the one true faith... the old rite was denied to me, the true catechism was denied but even though I loved Paul VI, JPII, Benedict and I'm trying to love this man who is my enemy, Francis...

Francis is persecuting and demolishing what I want love what I need to embrace, I have told my family that I just can't go back to the novus ordo, I can't embrace liberalism anymore since there's a mentality today that proclaims "God understands and is merciful" which is not the entire truth "Gid is also Hoky and Just" as been taken out in the form of respect and false mercy, which, is demolishing the church, that is what Francis has cemented with his "boasting of sin" since day 1, all through, his bad fruits.

I don't care about the world anymore, to me life is Jesus and poor of me if I don't proclaim the Gospel, this man doesn't accept fratenal correction in any form, and today the numbers are there, Francis is popular, but the church is becoming small.

Hypocrisy is the name of the game, pentecostals are brothers, the Russian orthodox are brothers, the jews and muslims are brothers, but we are legalists and sedevacantists... I see how "closed minded" he calls traditionalism but how the Quran is "profetic" and how their traditions are worthy of following.

I can't go against what I have, I can't roll with the flow, I can't accept liberalism, and by me not telling it like it is, is a sin more dangerous than not obeying this liberal pope, who by being liberal alone, is not pope anymore, Benedict still has power and I subject myself to him even if he doesn't want the job anymore, even if he is a prisoner of the circumstances.

Many Blessings Rhemes, I know how you feel and is ok, just don't ever buy that "we all go to heaven" borderline heresy and cling to the rosary, this are times of darkness in which spiritual relaxation (as the unprepared virgins) is what the world wants, blessings.
BrAlexisBugnolo
Gregory
@rhemes1582,Being Catholic I am under the obligation to defend the Church; and being the miserable sinner that I am, I cannot help but point out how superficial and pseudo your judgment remains. Just ask yourself, who is more blameworthy, UNWORTHY, for his calumny at the Vicar of Christ, or you, for lending your ear and being an advocate to his merciless, incessant attacks at the Holy …More
@rhemes1582,Being Catholic I am under the obligation to defend the Church; and being the miserable sinner that I am, I cannot help but point out how superficial and pseudo your judgment remains. Just ask yourself, who is more blameworthy, UNWORTHY, for his calumny at the Vicar of Christ, or you, for lending your ear and being an advocate to his merciless, incessant attacks at the Holy Father. Your commentary and his commentary reflects the repute in which you hold Pope Francis.

Your apology is unquestionably reprehensible; you blame and betray your friend, as he praises you; what a shameful thing to do; and you decry me and make a dishonest speculation of Dr. Stuart Reiss. As much as I would like to hold a high esteem for you, I must say that at present it will be very difficult; for calumny is almost impossible for the proud to make amends for; it requires no slight self humiliation.

Veritatem in Caritate
rhemes1582
@UNWORTHY
Thank you for the kind words you offered on my behalf, in this thread.
Unfortunately Dr. Stuart.Reiss. cannot leave well enough alone, and needs too keep poking.

Unworthy my name can be placed next to yours, with many concerns you express. But Your words are not mine, and Gregory was trying very hard to do that.

I have said before that I know you Love the Bride of Christ. I meant…More
@UNWORTHY
Thank you for the kind words you offered on my behalf, in this thread.
Unfortunately Dr. Stuart.Reiss. cannot leave well enough alone, and needs too keep poking.

Unworthy my name can be placed next to yours, with many concerns you express. But Your words are not mine, and Gregory was trying very hard to do that.

I have said before that I know you Love the Bride of Christ. I meant it...
I still do not agree with the silent routine shared by the other 2 posters.
I was wrong to enter this thread on your behalf , considering some of your latest
posts about Resisting the Pope, and AntiPope , and some of the more recent articles you have posted.
I do not agree with them, as you already know

UNWORTHY : You are a gentlemen.
I wanted to write this publicly to you, so that the harsh words of Dr. S. R. do not cause you much pain, as are their intent.
I desired to correct my error here, with an apology to the other 2 posters. I did not know that it would be used to hurt you.

Please mention me in your prayers.

In Christ the King
rhemes1582
@ Dr. Stuart Reiss
I forgive you.
I am glad you are going to confession.
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@Gregory & Dr. Stuart Reiss
It was an error in My judgment to defend the actions of UNWORTHY in this thread.
I should have posted this last night, before Gregory, now went ahead and made himself guilty of Calumny.
I wish you had not done that Gregory
Gregory to place my name with UNWORTHY`S posts is truly an attempt to slander me.
I am disappointed in you.

I expected Dr. Reiss to do that maybe…
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@Gregory & Dr. Stuart Reiss
It was an error in My judgment to defend the actions of UNWORTHY in this thread.
I should have posted this last night, before Gregory, now went ahead and made himself guilty of Calumny.
I wish you had not done that Gregory
Gregory to place my name with UNWORTHY`S posts is truly an attempt to slander me.
I am disappointed in you.

I expected Dr. Reiss to do that maybe, because I had treated him pretty poorly. {He did not however, he just called me out for my illogical argument.}


I do not attack the Pope. I am not guilty of Calumny with respect to the Pope Either.
{Feel free to look through my posts}
That is part of the problem, with trying too hard to win your argument.

Dr. Reiss I apologize for trying to upset you, with my remarks to you.
You were right to take the stand you did. My dislike with your approach {perspective} on current news out of Rome, got the better of me.

I should have stayed out of it, or agreed with you.

I should have checked my passions.

Unworthy, They are right.

Peace
Gregory
@UNWORTHY, would not admonishment rather than praise be a more fitting expectation for @rhemes1582 if you were to place yourself in the presence of Christ, Our Lord. An isolated act would prove nothing, but your attacks at the Vicar of Christ prove to be habitual, permanent! It now rest with you and rhemes1582 to correct yourselves, and to see to it that the Eight Commandment of Christ …More
@UNWORTHY, would not admonishment rather than praise be a more fitting expectation for @rhemes1582 if you were to place yourself in the presence of Christ, Our Lord. An isolated act would prove nothing, but your attacks at the Vicar of Christ prove to be habitual, permanent! It now rest with you and rhemes1582 to correct yourselves, and to see to it that the Eight Commandment of Christ and the respect due to the Vicar of Christ does not go neglected or that you do not carry it out superficially on this prestigious Catholic forum.

UNWORTHY
Rhemes has something you two bozos don't have, Jesus has given Him the grace to be a gentleman, the most amazing Gentleman ever was my Lord Jesus and seeing how he (Rhemes) behaves around catholics is refreshing, but what you know about that, I take both of you in a blender and not 0.1% of a gentleness could be had.

This is the last time I'm adressing you bozos... go and bark to another tree.
Gregory
What Catholic could ignore the foolish nonstop barrage at the Vicar of Christ coming from @rhemes1582 and @UNWORTHY? What Catholic could publish far and wide all sorts of allegations, ridicule, and smears at the Holy Father? Are Catholics to stand by unmoved and silent by brazen attacks and calumny against the Vicar of Christ? I think not; and pray it and they be repulsed and withstood.…More
What Catholic could ignore the foolish nonstop barrage at the Vicar of Christ coming from @rhemes1582 and @UNWORTHY? What Catholic could publish far and wide all sorts of allegations, ridicule, and smears at the Holy Father? Are Catholics to stand by unmoved and silent by brazen attacks and calumny against the Vicar of Christ? I think not; and pray it and they be repulsed and withstood.

Zelo Dei, Zelus Animarum
UNWORTHY
37 Antipopes which every time there's one true and the other false. Calumny?

Dissecting the St Francis of Assisi prophecy, please correct me if am wrong...

there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. There hasn't been a pope more disobeyed than Benedict.

At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonic…More
37 Antipopes which every time there's one true and the other false. Calumny?

Dissecting the St Francis of Assisi prophecy, please correct me if am wrong...

there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. There hasn't been a pope more disobeyed than Benedict.

At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavor to draw many into error and death. There is MUCH evidence that Francis pontificate is not valid AND has Francis led people into error and death? "Who am I to judge" alone has put so many souls in jeopardy... again Illinois comes to mind and he hasn't correct anything from that phrase... it has been more than a year since that lie... it's ridiculous.

Those who preserve their fervor and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. Cardinal Burke comes to mind, Livieres, Finn (soon), and after material heresy in next synod in 2015, schism WILL follow... and the most horrendous persecution will ensue, England will be small potatoes after that...

Some preachers will keep SILENCE about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and DENY IT... Like we are living today... much silence out of fear to the Liberals (bergoglian police) and those who just don't care...

Sanctity of life will be held in derision (mockery)... even by those who outwardly profess it. "We talk too much about abortion, contraception and homosexuality..." "We don't gain anything by killing a human being..." and confusion then follows:

EG# 214 Precisely because this involves the internal consistency of our message about the value of the human person, the Church cannot be expected to change her position on this question. I want to be completely honest in this regard. This is not something subject to alleged reforms or “modernizations”. It is not “progressive” to try to resolve problems by eliminating a human life. On the other hand, it is also true that we have done little to adequately accompany women in very difficult situations, where ABORTION APPEARS AS A QUICK SOLUTION to their profound anguish, especially when the life developing within them is the result of rape or a situation of extreme poverty. Who can remain unmoved before such painful situations?

for in those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor BUT A DESTROYER... St Francis loved tradition, loved the pope and was obedient and here he's is talking about a DESTROYER, for years there has been a silent demolition, but lately is NOT silent is pretty much in our faces...

St Francis call him a destroyer, I call him a wolf in sheep's clothing and Jesus has said it "By their FRUITS you shall know them" tell me... is Giving the Eucharist to remarried people and letting transvestites to renew the church with NO conversion at all, only respect and letting their gifts to rain on the church... are those good fruits?

He is an antipope sorry, check your history, check the fruits, he wasn't fit to be pope before, he is not pope now and his time on the church will be remembered as a black spot on the church, more than Arianism itself.

"We all go to heaven" ... Beautiful!!!
rhemes1582
The just shall correct me in mercy, and shall reprove me: but let not the oil of the sinner fatten my head. For my prayer also shall still be against the things with which they are well pleased:

Psalm 140 - 5
rhemes1582
Gregory:
I did not say which things he says are wrong or right.
I am not surprised by your comment though.

I have seen you go after him{UNWORTHY} for a long time, on most any criticism of the Pope.
You blanket accuse...............You Know it.

This time you mention a specific charge: Very Good
I have myself asked him not to say such things.
I agree with you: In my opinion ,He is wrong to …More
Gregory:
I did not say which things he says are wrong or right.
I am not surprised by your comment though.

I have seen you go after him{UNWORTHY} for a long time, on most any criticism of the Pope.
You blanket accuse...............You Know it.

This time you mention a specific charge: Very Good
I have myself asked him not to say such things.
I agree with you: In my opinion ,He is wrong to state such things in public, and there is a danger that he may scandalize faithful with that declaration.

I would never encourage such speech.

I have stated before{you may go through my posts} We do not have the Authority to Judge Against a Pope, or to make such a claim, unless declared by one in authority.
Gregory
@rhemes1582, your friend @UNWORTHY said “Francis is an antipope hands down;” if you do not consider that a brazen attack and calumny against the Vicar of Christ, then I fear for your judgment as well.
rhemes1582
@Gregory
I believe in Charity that we both desire to protect the Seat of Peter.
I also know you are very quick to accuse any public critic of the Pope with {Calumny and Attacking the Pope}.
In order to prove your accusation of Calumny; you would have to bring to light a great many things Pope Francis has done since he began his pontificate.
The very things you fight tooth and nail to suppress, …More
@Gregory
I believe in Charity that we both desire to protect the Seat of Peter.
I also know you are very quick to accuse any public critic of the Pope with {Calumny and Attacking the Pope}.
In order to prove your accusation of Calumny; you would have to bring to light a great many things Pope Francis has done since he began his pontificate.
The very things you fight tooth and nail to suppress, from public view.
I have experienced your displeasure, when I have voiced my dislike/concern/shock over the Pope`s words and actions.
I believe you work from the mistaken premise, that any criticism of the Pope is an attack, and maybe Calumny.

They are not.

Many things have come to pass in the last year and a half.

I don`t think Unworthy is guilty of Calumny as often as you make accusation.
I also don`t think he is the only one culpable of the offence.

I do believe He loves the Holy Catholic Church.
I believe the same of you.
Gregory
@rhemes1582, A Catholic is under the obligation to counter brazen attacks and calumny against the Vicar of Christ. I do not judge him; I admonish him with filial respect and fear for his soul.
In Domino
rhemes1582
@Gregory
{I agree with you, In as far
They do need correction.}

I need to add that: I do not agree with your judgment of the individual {s} that you are referring too.{ You judge quickly, and harshly}

Just my opinion.
Gregory
@rhemes1582, St. Ignatius of Loyola says, “O God, Thou joy of my soul, if only men knew Thee, they never would offend Thee.” St. Augustine said, “Heretics are everywhere,” and our Lord, Jesus Christ, compared some members of the Church to weeds and worthless fish.

Those who constantly assault the Holy Father have a corrupting influence on faith; and only deter right minded persons from the …More
@rhemes1582, St. Ignatius of Loyola says, “O God, Thou joy of my soul, if only men knew Thee, they never would offend Thee.” St. Augustine said, “Heretics are everywhere,” and our Lord, Jesus Christ, compared some members of the Church to weeds and worthless fish.

Those who constantly assault the Holy Father have a corrupting influence on faith; and only deter right minded persons from the faith; and those who believe that around the clock public criticism of the Holy Father is not deserving of correction, only betray their own nature and faith; fully demonstrating that they are only patrons of vice.

Certa Bonum Certamen

rhemes1582
Dear UNWORTHY:
You need not apologize to me, for their schoolyard antics.

I am sorry you are so troubled by this Pope.{you are not alone in your concerns} In my opinion, you just take it to far, with to much repetition.

There is a real danger of becoming guilty of scandalizing the little ones. {Even if you feel justified}.
We all run the risk of breaking the 6th Commandment. Killing someone`…More
Dear UNWORTHY:
You need not apologize to me, for their schoolyard antics.

I am sorry you are so troubled by this Pope.{you are not alone in your concerns} In my opinion, you just take it to far, with to much repetition.

There is a real danger of becoming guilty of scandalizing the little ones. {Even if you feel justified}.
We all run the risk of breaking the 6th Commandment. Killing someone`s good name ..

God help us.

That is why I remarked to you in their posts with you.
God will judge these days, and all us with them. From the smallest to the Greatest.

Say to the just man that it is well, for he shall eat the fruit of his doings. Woe to the wicked unto evil! for the reward of his hands shall be given him. Catholics: Hear the Words of this Prophet.
UNWORTHY
I apologize dear Rhemes because they associate you with me... sorry.

In the end I know that Jesus will judge according to my deeds, words, omission and thought... and I surrender to His Omnipotent Mercy and Justice.

It is my hope that all gets saved, even Francis.

But what is the ultimate goal of the Church?

I know you know rhemes...the salvation of souls and creating saints for the Lord.

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I apologize dear Rhemes because they associate you with me... sorry.

In the end I know that Jesus will judge according to my deeds, words, omission and thought... and I surrender to His Omnipotent Mercy and Justice.

It is my hope that all gets saved, even Francis.

But what is the ultimate goal of the Church?

I know you know rhemes...the salvation of souls and creating saints for the Lord.

If we could only saw how many souls have been lead to hell by just the "who am I to judge" infamous phrase...

Franciscans with rainbow St Damiano mockery crosses, gay marriage legalized in Illinois and people refuse to see the truth.

Francis telling muslims to "follow the faith of their fathers that it'll take them far" and telling the whole world that the Quran (which is the right word-but if I choose to call it kuku is my problem) is PROPHETIC... tell me Rhemes... tell me how much truth is in there?

I'm sorry to all Catholics who think I'm a sedevacantist, but it is MY believe that if there's a lie in anything, then God is not there, but what about when they teach us, that it's OK for divorce and remarried to get the Eucharist, it is OK for homosexual couples because they need inclusion, they need mercy and they deliberately forget to mention sin, conversion, abomination, hell out of respect...? All I see is falsity, apostasy.

Pope Francis has shown his Liberal hand so many times it hurts... allowing Forte to remain, says it all, allowing Kasper to lead astray says it all, but telling muslims to follow their FALSE traditions while telling us that traditionalism is a thing of the past, is clear that he, Francis, is agaisnt me and all who loves the law.

And they can say whatever they want of me, but I defend every post conciliar pope to the teeth... and I love my Catholic roots that I was denied by those popes who I defend, but will not defend a "pope" who hides behind his AMBIGUOUS deeds, words and appearance.

When St Francis of Assisi said a destroyer would come and says that in those times "LIFE would be mocked, even by those who profess it" and I read Evangelii Gaudiim n.214 how he opens the door for pro abortionists on raped and extreme poverty victims, I know when he says "We talk too much about abortion, contraception and homosexuality" is not coincidence; when the Franciscans of the immaculate gets hammered and I look what St Francis said "the IMMACULATE purity of our order will be eclipsed" I see NO coincidence.

So I prefer to follow what I've been taught through apostolic teachings, we shouldn't follow ambiguous teachings, we shouldn't follow wolves in sheep clothing.

Blessings...
rhemes1582
True Premise you may not attack, the Pope without attacking the Church.
False Premise Any criticism of the Pope is an attack on the Pope, and the Church.

Dr Stuart Reiss, and Gregory argue from:
False Premise: Any criticism of the Pope is an attack on the Pope.

Because of the Bias attached to the argument by Dr. Stuart Reiss {False Premise}
The way #4 is written is deceptive, and very mislead…More
True Premise you may not attack, the Pope without attacking the Church.
False Premise Any criticism of the Pope is an attack on the Pope, and the Church.

Dr Stuart Reiss, and Gregory argue from:
False Premise: Any criticism of the Pope is an attack on the Pope.

Because of the Bias attached to the argument by Dr. Stuart Reiss {False Premise}
The way #4 is written is deceptive, and very misleading.
Even though {4) An attack on the Pope is an attack on the Church} is a true statement ; it has become
contaminated by the bias of it`s author.
In effect it no longer carries the meaning, OR the purity of the words.

#5 is even more Misleading; because number 4 is a deception on the face of it.

UNWORTHY : I too wish you would check some of your thoughts.

Pray for the Pope
Pray for the Unspotted Bride of Christ
The Holy Catholic Church.
Gregory
The careless around the clock manner in which Pope Francis is attacked here by certain users is not only an assault at the Vicar of Christ, it is also an attack at the Church and it mocks Our Lord, Jesus Christ; it is the will of Jesus Christ that Pope Francis is the successor to St. Peter and the Head of the Catholic Church.

My view has been to treat these users more like children, instead of …More
The careless around the clock manner in which Pope Francis is attacked here by certain users is not only an assault at the Vicar of Christ, it is also an attack at the Church and it mocks Our Lord, Jesus Christ; it is the will of Jesus Christ that Pope Francis is the successor to St. Peter and the Head of the Catholic Church.

My view has been to treat these users more like children, instead of heathen, and surely not as how they deserve! I am engaged on the side of trying to denounce the corrupting influence and evil persistence of attacking the Vicar of Christ.
ACLumsden
@codefinited - Thanks for the study and some support for the rather bold claim by Gloria.TV here. One is really never quite clear as to the sources of these claims - at times.
In the opponent group I really do not see here discussing with any good arguments to support the errors of Francis. I only see the direct attack to the users so they need to divert the attention of the subject; because they have no argument to support the falsehood. Either they deny the Gospel or they have has become idolaters.
Gregory
@UNWORTHY, I am certain that it is a mistake to suppose, owing to your around the clock assaults to the Holy Father, Pope Francis, and your willful ignorance of the Papacy and the Holy Catholic Church, that you will realize that you are truly no different than a sedevecantist; really worse, since you have been given the truth and choose to reject it.

Also, it is obscene for you to think that…More
@UNWORTHY, I am certain that it is a mistake to suppose, owing to your around the clock assaults to the Holy Father, Pope Francis, and your willful ignorance of the Papacy and the Holy Catholic Church, that you will realize that you are truly no different than a sedevecantist; really worse, since you have been given the truth and choose to reject it.

Also, it is obscene for you to think that you are at liberty to publish such calumny against the Vicar of Christ, Pope Francis; and to use a prestigious Catholic forum to facilitate your extreme viewpoints and attacks against the Church is shameful.

One must fear that you do not belong to the Kingdom of God and that your calumny for the Holy Father is a sign of perdition.
UNWORTHY
Francis has revealed himself as not catholic by telling the world: "The coran is a profetic book of peace"... can anyone say different? the word "profetic" has been said telling the world while denying indirectly the Divinity of our Lord, a pope should know better! Liberalism is a sin, Indiferrentism is a sin, Denying a revealed truth is a sin, but not only a sin... APOSTASY!

We all go to heaven…More
Francis has revealed himself as not catholic by telling the world: "The coran is a profetic book of peace"... can anyone say different? the word "profetic" has been said telling the world while denying indirectly the Divinity of our Lord, a pope should know better! Liberalism is a sin, Indiferrentism is a sin, Denying a revealed truth is a sin, but not only a sin... APOSTASY!

We all go to heaven + Coran is profetic + who am I to judge + Jews have the old covenant valid + if the law doesn't take you to Christ then the law is dead!

The saints love the law, the saints preached the Coran was a lie, saints died in martyrdom because of this peaceful book, Homosexuality has been running wild because of this man NOT calling to conversion, the law is alive and well and it can be visualized every time a faithful priest gives his back to men and offers the sacrifice to Almighty Father then the law can is alive, the law can be tasted, the law give us the path of righteousness, and being righteous is living according his will, according to the truth according to Jesus.

Those who denies Jesus in ambiguous ways and in clear ways like this man, must be stop, by following God only and God wouldn't go against Himself, this pope is an antipope and has revealed his hand many times, but people prefer to look the other way... demolition has began, are you in on the destruction or are you faithful by following the truth?

RESIST!
rhemes1582
Thanks for the news.
Also this study show the connection:
Linacre Quarterly -Catholic Medical Association Responding the Abuse Crisis Volume 78 Number 3 August 2011

Radio Interview: Homosexual Infiltration of the Catholic Church
Quote of the An open letter to Francis By Randy Engel
''Homosexuality and Pederasty – An Ancient and Universal Connection
Up until the early 1980s, the terms pederasty and pederast with thei…More
Also this study show the connection:
Linacre Quarterly -Catholic Medical Association Responding the Abuse Crisis Volume 78 Number 3 August 2011

Radio Interview: Homosexual Infiltration of the Catholic Church
Quote of the An open letter to Francis By Randy Engel
''Homosexuality and Pederasty – An Ancient and Universal Connection
Up until the early 1980s, the terms pederasty and pederast with their obvious connection to male homosexuality were used by both Church and State to define sexual relations between adult homosexuals and underage boys.
This intimate connection between homosexuality and pederasty was recognized by the early Church Fathers of the East and the West, and by great saints like Saint John Chrysostom (344?-407) who condemned the unnatural and diabolic desires of the sodomites especially those pederasts who came to church to look with lustful curiosity upon handsome youth. [9]
Saint Peter Damian specifically condemned the seduction of youth by homosexual clerics in his classic treatise on homosexuality and pederasty titled The Book of Gomorrah written in 1049. [10] I suggest you put this work at the top of your reading list to reread, or read for the first time, which I think is probably the case. Please mark it "urgent!"
The Handbook of Moral Theology by Dominic M. Plümmer, O.P. (1866-1931), which served as a standard reference on moral questions for generations of Catholic priests and confessors and seminarians in the pre-Vatican II era, lists both "paederasty" and "the unnatural vice," as synonyms for sodomy (525. 2.).
As late as 1961, the Sacred Congregation for Religious continued to make the connection between homosexuality and pederasty as evidenced by the dual reference found in the pre-Vatican II document Careful Selection And Training Of Candidates For The States Of Perfection And Sacred Orders.
Section 31 (4) addresses the issue of grave violations of chastity by candidates for religious life states: "Advancement to religious vows and ordination should be barred to those who are afflicted with evil tendencies to homosexuality or pederasty, since for them the common life and the priestly ministry would constitute serious dangers." [11]
So why after almost 2000 years, did the post-Conciliar Church decide to abandon its traditional linkage of homosexuality to pederasty and adopt the clinical term, pedophilia?
Why else but to accommodate and protect the Homosexual Collective.
Predictably, the use of verbal gymnastics by Catholic officials with the intension of preventing the Catholic laity and general public from making any connection between the rise of homosexual practices in the Catholic priesthood, religious life, and hierarchy, and the increase of sexual abuse of male adolescents by those same persons, has led to numerous unforeseen and dangerous consequences for victims and perpetrators alike. Realistically, how can the Catholic Church be expected to solve this grave problem when its leaders steadfastly refuse to correctly define the problem?
codephined
@ACLumsden Not only this, but the National Institutes of Health did a study showing that homosexuals were roughly three times more likely to perpetrate sexual abuse on minors than heterosexuals. It also must be taken into account that the homosexual population is less than 2% of the total population. Per capita, homosexuals find themselves the greatest of abusers.

That study can be seen here:…More
@ACLumsden Not only this, but the National Institutes of Health did a study showing that homosexuals were roughly three times more likely to perpetrate sexual abuse on minors than heterosexuals. It also must be taken into account that the homosexual population is less than 2% of the total population. Per capita, homosexuals find themselves the greatest of abusers.

That study can be seen here: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756
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Carlos Barquin
Several studies made in the United States about the Sexual Abuse Scandal show a clear relationship between the abuses and the homosexuality of the perpetrators as most of the cases were not really pedophilia (abuse of pre-pubescent children) but the abuse of adolescent males. Check the website of the Catholic League, they have useful information and documentation about the truth of the clerical …More
Several studies made in the United States about the Sexual Abuse Scandal show a clear relationship between the abuses and the homosexuality of the perpetrators as most of the cases were not really pedophilia (abuse of pre-pubescent children) but the abuse of adolescent males. Check the website of the Catholic League, they have useful information and documentation about the truth of the clerical abuse scandal.
gottogosome
And all this time I thought the Holy Spirit was behind Pope Francis election.
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ACLumsden
Is paediophilia really connected with homosexuality? One wonders whether Gloria TV has any 'good' psychiatrist on staff to make such a claim......