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Cardinal Raymond Burke on Abortion, Extraordinary Form, Communion in the Hand, Pro Multis

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Interview taken in the Apostolic Signature in Rome
stanislawp
We have many bishops who teach catholic teaching... Communion when kneeling and on the tongue..
We don't have bishops who teach Communion on hand...
So why we don't have respect when we want to have our Communion kneeling?
Why priests are upset and abusive when we kneel?
I did not see one bishop who would teach to have Communion on hand.. show me one link!
JTLiuzza
Two things leap out in reading below:

One is the defending the N.O. solely because it is "valid." There is much in the way of liturgy that is valid but nowhere near worthy of our Lord. I've never seen any other basis upon which modernists defend the N.O. that holds water.

Second, as sure as the sun rises, the liberal/modernist will in the end resort to assailing anyone who disagrees with him …More
Two things leap out in reading below:

One is the defending the N.O. solely because it is "valid." There is much in the way of liturgy that is valid but nowhere near worthy of our Lord. I've never seen any other basis upon which modernists defend the N.O. that holds water.

Second, as sure as the sun rises, the liberal/modernist will in the end resort to assailing anyone who disagrees with him by impugning his honesty, integrity, even sanity. Disgraceful.
holyrope 3
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Church approved LaSalette Message...what we are living through today.
mrsilvia
Mi dispiace, non conosco altre lingue, oltre l'italiano ed il francese...
ACLumsden
Not quite...... when we leave behind knowledge we enter the world of superstition and divination! Knowledge fuels prayer which fuels knowledge and faith. It canot be left out of the dynamic. If it is omitted, like I said, we descend into superstition and divination!
mfm123
I agree with ACLumsden. Only tradys, aka heretics, agree that with the Sedevaticanists
ACLumsden
WHY O WHY PRAY TELL!!! are you chaps continuing to engage this mentally ill man [trady] on the Gloria.tv website????? The mind simply boggles at this utter display of non-intelligenciae and volleys to and fro of mentally challenged repartee!! You do this man NO favours in encouraging him in his dimentia..... CEASE AND DESIST!! For the love of God, do!!
RomanCandle
Trady, you state the "seat is vacant". I respectfully disagree; there's a shortage of PRIESTS but no shortage of POPES!
RomanCandle
Trady, you have alluded to the Papal See being vacant. Would that be since the death of Pope Pius XII or Pope John XXIII? Are “Pope Pius XIII” or “Pope Michael I” true popes?
holyrope 3
@rhemes said:

"Invalid and Not a Sacrifice should not be on the list" (re: New Mass)


yes Rhemes, "it should Not be on the list"....but sadly it IS! Did you see the interview with Francis Cardinal Arinze when he said "Today one would have to question whether some of the New Masses is valid." And I have heard this said by numerous priests, Believe me. This is not saying all New Masses are …More
@rhemes said:

"Invalid and Not a Sacrifice should not be on the list" (re: New Mass)


yes Rhemes, "it should Not be on the list"....but sadly it IS! Did you see the interview with Francis Cardinal Arinze when he said "Today one would have to question whether some of the New Masses is valid." And I have heard this said by numerous priests, Believe me. This is not saying all New Masses are invalid.

"I suspect someone out there will be anxious to argue that. If you choose to do that; Please bring forth the Roman document that states the Mass is not a Sacrifice."

I think your question rather should be: "What constitutes for a Valid Mass, per what Rome has said." Three things:

1... FORM..."In reference to the sacraments, their form is the Sacramental sign or the words that specify the function of the Matter and Confer on it the power of sanctifying." (Fr. John Hardon's Catholic Disctionary)

This is when the priest says the words of institution of the Eucharist, pronounced at Mass, by which is accomplished the very sacrifice that Christ instituted at the Last Supper. The formula of consecration is uniform.

Now, let me say here, that not only myself but many others who are aware of the words of the Consecration that are SUPPOSE to be said by the priest offering the Mass, have NOT always been in accordance to what is Required to make that Mass Valid.

2. Matter... Material elements that are necessary for the reception of a sacrament. Valid Matter MUST be used and is Necessary for a VALID sacrament. (Fr. John Hardon's Catholic Dictionary)

Holy Mother Church has always prescribed that the MATTER to which communion hosts are to be made (ingredients) is Whole Wheat Flour and Water...That's It!

Here, I could write a book on this subject, but I will just give a couple of my own experiences and even one from a diocesan priest here who told me of his own experience, and Rhemes, he is not the only priest who has told me things quite similar, if not, more outrageous than the last. Which I'm sure some priests who post here could attest to!
About 5 yrs ago, the Sisters of St. Joseph put out a recipe book for a fund raiser. Sr. Theota (not real name) would try to sell me one of these books several times as I was leaving the Church. Well, I finally gave in, (even though I had tons of recipe books), one day while looking up a certain recipe, I came across a recipe titled "ALTAR BREAD". Ingredients: wheat flour, water, MARGARINE, and BAKING POWDER and SALT!
Now this was a recipe belonging to a Sister of St. Joseph,...I thought to myself, what is this all about??? as I knew what was needed for VALID Matter.
So, to cut to the chase, I had to go through several channels just to get to speak to this nun, who, was older. I asked her if this was her recipe, she acknowledged it was. I asked her what she uses this recipe for? Her response, "Well, for Mass!" Trying to contain my composure (which for an Italian can be hard sometimes), I then said to her, "Sister, surely you know what ingredients Rome has set down which constitutes what ingredients are to be used for it to be Valid, don't you? she said, "What is it?" I knew she was testing me..so I read to her the document with the ingredients so stated. Then I again proceeded to say to her, "You Know this don't you, sister?" she said "YES." I said to her, "Then WHY IN HEAVEN's NAME ARE YOU USING INVALID MATTER..YOU MUST KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING UP TO RECEIVE COMMUNION ARE NOT RECEIVING OUR LORD!" Total Silence on the other end! then she said, "Well, Father gave us permission to make them this way." I told her not only Father, but she, herself, will have to answer for what they are doing, and that I WILL REPORT IT! Then, she said, "I'm sorry."

Now, regarding the other priest I mentioned, let's just say he had the same experience...he gives communion to those in hospitals and nursing homes. And in one Nursing home, he said, that another order of nuns would be Adamant that he use ONLY the hosts they made. He told them, he brought his own and intended to use them, he said, they weren't happy!..later, he found out that Indeed they were using Margarine! .....Valid? Absolutely NOT!

3. INTENTION:
In the administration of a sacrament, the purpose or will of the one administering to do what the Church desires and convey to the recipient the grace of the sacrament; the habitual or virtual willing to do a thing as it is MEANT TO BE DONE. The purpose or end for which a religious act is performed, e.g., the intention of the celebrant at Mass.

This one,.....have I questioned the intention of a priest to consecrate, or his will and desire to do so? honestly and with deep regret, I have to answer yes. But, I will leave this one to God.
And remember, if just "one" of these three things are missing as stated above, the Mass is NOT valid!

Now,...do I believe all New Masses are invalid? No

Would I prefer to attend a traditional Latin Mass? you bet!

Just the facts stated above is plenty reason for me to want to attend the traditional Mass exclusively! And, do I need to mention having to witness our Lord in the Eucharist falling to the ground while lay distributors are giving out Communion? and then, not to even CLEAN THE AREA IN WHICH HE WAS DROPPED!


Rhemes, after attending the New Mass and also learning the Rubrics of the Mass, I came to learn that the abuses at MOST New Masses are sadly pathetic and a disgrace to God. I used to walk out of Church crying because of what I witnessed so frequently. I would go around from church to church seeking some tradition, some holiness, some kind of reverence and could find none. Then, I truly believe that at a time I was to know, someone had told me of a Latin Mass some miles away. I couldn't believe what I had heard, and I can't tell you how anxious I was to go there. After Years, and I DO mean Years of priests trying to refuse me and my family communion because we were on my knees and or because we wished to receive on the tongue, (to mention just a few) this for me was such a relief! So, from the first day I walked into Church for the traditional Mass, and saw the priest and MALE altar servers come walking out into the sancturary and begining the prayers at the foot of the altar, I KNEW I WAS HOME! And Thanks Be To GOD for this Beautiful, Holy, and Reverent Mass...The Mass that truly gives Him the Highest Amount of Glory, Respect, and Reverence! Peace
Antanas245
Trady

please change your opinion about the new mass you don't have too like the new liturgy but it is



valid and the representation of the sacrifice of the cross where Christ offered himself a Victim to god (Ephesians 5:2)
Antanas245
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Antanas245
When I was a sedevacantist. I never found the arguments for the
Novus Ordo to be invalid to be true.
holyrope 3
The Latin Mass has returned and is growing; and will continue. Deo Gratias!

Enough is Enough with the New Mass..how much more of the Abuses will Our Dear Lord Tolerate? It Must Stop!
ERASMUS
Outstanding and correct analysis, however we cannot stay without Peter.
My compliments for your speculative and liturgical knowledge. Erasmus39.
Dolorosa2010
I certainly agree with the Cardinal on abortion but there is much more to what happened after Vatican II/Novus Ordo:
catholictradition.org/Eucharist/v2-bombs.htm
ACLumsden
@CatholicLiturgy - Bravo that man!! According to Dr Fortesque on the origins of the Roman rite, what we see and experience in the 1962 Mass will be recognised by all peoples in the 17th and 18th Centuries - 1570....they would recognise it with questions about the Last Gospel, the Chants AND the ceremonial. Anything before this would be regional, e.g. the Sarum Rite in the UK, Notre Dame in Paris,…More
@CatholicLiturgy - Bravo that man!! According to Dr Fortesque on the origins of the Roman rite, what we see and experience in the 1962 Mass will be recognised by all peoples in the 17th and 18th Centuries - 1570....they would recognise it with questions about the Last Gospel, the Chants AND the ceremonial. Anything before this would be regional, e.g. the Sarum Rite in the UK, Notre Dame in Paris, etc...... all with their own peculiar ceremonial and ritual.

Before 600AD according to the Chronicles of Egeria, the altar was free standing and the clericum faced their Bishop who faced them at Mass - around the altar of sacrifice! Nothing like the 1962 form in the least!

But, on the other hand we do have a problem with continuance dear brother.... As I said in another post elsewhere, the hermeneutics of continuance requires MUCH more adjustments and constant reform.

CatholicLiturgy
Excellent interview. There is, however, an unfortunate error in Cardinal Burke's historical review of the Extraordinary Form. "...the rite going back to practically Pope Gregory the Great." The form of the EF used today does not go back to Pope Gregory the Great. As a matter of fact, it looks very little like the rite celebrated in the time of Gregory I. There have been multiple, and at times …More
Excellent interview. There is, however, an unfortunate error in Cardinal Burke's historical review of the Extraordinary Form. "...the rite going back to practically Pope Gregory the Great." The form of the EF used today does not go back to Pope Gregory the Great. As a matter of fact, it looks very little like the rite celebrated in the time of Gregory I. There have been multiple, and at times inorganic, developments in the form and language of the liturgy from 600AD until 1962. I wish we would be honest and fess up to the fact that the EF of the liturgy in use is not the "ancient rite" - in it's form it is a fairly modern confluence. I might give you 1570, Cardinal Burke, but 600AD? That just isn't even close.

"...we must work for the renewalof Catholic liturgy." BXVI
dursovi
OTTIMO.
ana casper
EXCELENT!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS
THE LIVE
GOD BLESS
OUR HOLY CHURCH
GOD BLESS
LATIN MASS
GOD BLESS
CARDINAL RAYMUND BURKY!
LETS PRAY FOR THIS INTENSION.
AMEN.
This is an excellent interview of Cardinal Raymond Burke. Without question, His Eminence is a great leader in our times. Let's all keep him in our prayers.
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holyrope 3
Among the atrocity of abortion, which must cry out to the ends of the earth in defense of God's innocent and defenseless children....we hope and pray that our Holy Father will Mandate that Communion be received on the tongue while kneeling only.

@mychele
you state; "now being short of helpers, insecurity resides especially in the older communicants. In this case I would not consider the …
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Among the atrocity of abortion, which must cry out to the ends of the earth in defense of God's innocent and defenseless children....we hope and pray that our Holy Father will Mandate that Communion be received on the tongue while kneeling only.

@mychele
you state; "now being short of helpers, insecurity resides especially in the older communicants. In this case I would not consider the practice of communion in the hand irreverent."

being short of "helpers" has nothing to do (and is an excuse widely used and promoted by modernist liberals) with giving God the honor and reverence which is His due.

I never knew any elderly that were "insecure" about receiving Communion the ways they grew up knowing it to be the Norm. If fact, I have witnessed THREE priests sitting in the sanctuary while LAY Distributors gave out Communion. They should be Ashamed! Many modernist clergy want and DO pass their Responsiblities onto Lay people when they can surely do it themselves!
Mychèle Amberg
Most Reverend Eminnence,
Congratulations of your enlightning interview. Please allow me to bring a point. If the practice of'' communion in the hand'' is considered to be irreverent for sacred things, I think that in the New mass, many communicants use this practice mainly because of ignorance. Therefore, it would be appreciated to be informed by the celebrant of the proper way.
In the past, …More
Most Reverend Eminnence,
Congratulations of your enlightning interview. Please allow me to bring a point. If the practice of'' communion in the hand'' is considered to be irreverent for sacred things, I think that in the New mass, many communicants use this practice mainly because of ignorance. Therefore, it would be appreciated to be informed by the celebrant of the proper way.
In the past, we used to receive the holy communion at the balustrade with an altar boy holding a paten which reassured us in case the host would fall. Now being short of helpers, insecurity resides especially in the older communicants.In this case I would not consider the practice of'' communion in the hand as irreverent.
PazyBien2010
Dante Rocha
Disculpen, por lo poco que entiendo ingles, me interesa esta entrevista. ¿Alguien sabe de algún lugar en la web en el que lo pueda encontrar traducido al español? Gracias desde ya.
jonatan
exactly as cannoli states, this is diplomatic tactics. but if the bishops chose not to obey, all this diplomacy will end up nowhere - and so they have chosen. so who will put any pressure on them, if even rome refuses to do so? it is of course the same problem with the words of the consecration, but i agree that in matters concerning the protection of the unborn, the problem shows even more …More
exactly as cannoli states, this is diplomatic tactics. but if the bishops chose not to obey, all this diplomacy will end up nowhere - and so they have chosen. so who will put any pressure on them, if even rome refuses to do so? it is of course the same problem with the words of the consecration, but i agree that in matters concerning the protection of the unborn, the problem shows even more violently.
Holy Cannoli
Most Reverend Eminence,

This was the first time I have ever heard you speak and I now have a better understanding why you were chosen to be Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura in Rome which is categorized as the highest judicial post in the Church short of the Holy Father himself. You are a scholarly man obviously grounded in Scholastic theology, diplomatic, mild mannered with a profound …More
Most Reverend Eminence,

This was the first time I have ever heard you speak and I now have a better understanding why you were chosen to be Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura in Rome which is categorized as the highest judicial post in the Church short of the Holy Father himself. You are a scholarly man obviously grounded in Scholastic theology, diplomatic, mild mannered with a profound understanding of the current state of affairs within the Catholic Church.

I would like to focus only on the first segment of your interview.
In speaking of “the ongoing battle for the defense of human life” you said:

The bishops not only have the right to make this discourse in public....but they have the duty for the sake of the world...to announce this moral truth.

Your Eminence, do you believe bishops (particularly here in the United States) are effectively “announc[ing] this moral truth”?

If bishops are not fulfilling their duty for Catholics much less for the sake of the world, does the Church have any means to “modify” certain bishops' failure?

I am not a scholar nor am I a diplomat. I am a very ordinary Catholic with an extraordinary passion for truth and skill at cutting through rhetoric in order to uncover the truth. The current abysmal state of affairs regarding Catholic pro-abortion politicians who function with little or no sanctions imposed by their bishops is a scandal with worldwide implications. The fact that the Catholic laity in the United States is so poorly catechized that they voted in the majority for the most pro-abortion and pro-homosexual president in history is equally scandalous.

Why are the Catholic bishops (exceptions duly noted) silent in the face of such tremendous scandals?

With respect to abortion, can you Eminence do something about bishops who are failing to “announce this moral truth”?

Aside from you Eminence, who is there in authority who has the power and the will to affect much needed reform within the Church?

If the Church chooses to wait and wait and relies on the 'good will' of negligent bishops, how many innocent unborn babies will be killed as a result of that delay?

Mille Grazie
Yours in Christ,

HC
Lord_Phan
@tilarick

Lose members? The catholic church has lost hundreds of millions of members worldwide BECAUSE of V2. The province of Quebec went from 90% catholic to 4% attendance with a very anti-catholic stance because none of them actually understand Catholic Teachings anymore.

Meanwhile The Society of St. Pius X has grown from one Archbishop and few priests to over 1 million members and continuein…More
@tilarick

Lose members? The catholic church has lost hundreds of millions of members worldwide BECAUSE of V2. The province of Quebec went from 90% catholic to 4% attendance with a very anti-catholic stance because none of them actually understand Catholic Teachings anymore.

Meanwhile The Society of St. Pius X has grown from one Archbishop and few priests to over 1 million members and continueing to grow in that same time period. They Reject V2 and Novus Ordo mass. Not only are they growing but privately I've witnessed many people who are not members that sympathize with SSPX.

I saw my first Tridentine Mass recently and I am going to keep going, it's very refreshing and everyone knows why they are there.
Peroptime!
apometron
Hello good folks!

I am Brazilian, read well english but am not fluent on it, so cant understand 100% the discourse of our deared speaker.

Where are the subtitles? =) Youtube has technology to put subtitles automatically and it help very much some persons like me. =)

Good energies for all and Happy New Year,
Rodrigo Cesar Banhara
Grazie del video molto interessante e da far conoscere.chatolic prayers radio
Semiur
Great!
holyrope 3
The traditional (extraordinary) Latin Mass is offered in the same manner Everywhere. It does not vary from priest to priest and from church to church. This is so because the Catholic faith is the same everywhere, and that true unity of faith must be reflected in a true unity of worship as well. It should be clear that the traditional Mass is absolutely faithful to Catholic teaching and the New …More
The traditional (extraordinary) Latin Mass is offered in the same manner Everywhere. It does not vary from priest to priest and from church to church. This is so because the Catholic faith is the same everywhere, and that true unity of faith must be reflected in a true unity of worship as well. It should be clear that the traditional Mass is absolutely faithful to Catholic teaching and the New Mass is not.

St. Thomas Aquinas teaches that "...whatever pertains to irreverence for sacred things is an injury to God, and comes under the head of sacrilege" (Summa, II-II, q. 99, art.1.) There are, of course, other practices in the New Mass which show "irreverence for sacred things" (such as the practice of "communion in the hand" and lay distributors), but space here does not allow for a Full treatment.
barbarajujuy
Excelente!
holyrope 3
"The use of the Latin language, customary in a considerable portion of the Church, is a manifest and beautiful sign of unity, as well as an effective antidote for ANY CORRUPTION OF DOCTRINAL TRUTH"

Encyclical On the Sacred Liturgy by Pope Pius XII 1947

Church Teaching on Women Assisting at Mass:

"Pope Gelasius in his ninth letter (chap. 26) to the bishops of Lucania Condemned the Evil practic…
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"The use of the Latin language, customary in a considerable portion of the Church, is a manifest and beautiful sign of unity, as well as an effective antidote for ANY CORRUPTION OF DOCTRINAL TRUTH"

Encyclical On the Sacred Liturgy by Pope Pius XII 1947

Church Teaching on Women Assisting at Mass:

"Pope Gelasius in his ninth letter (chap. 26) to the bishops of Lucania Condemned the Evil practice which had been introduced of women serving the priest at the celebration of Mass. Since this abuse had spread to the Greeks, Innocent IV Strictly Forbade it in his letter to the bishop of Tusculum: "Women should Not DARE to serve at the Altar; they should be altogether Refused this ministry. " We too have forbidden this practice in the same words in Our oft-repeated constitution Etsi Pastoralis, sect. 6, no. 21."

Encyclical On the Observance of Oriental Rites (Women Assisting at Mass) by Pope Benedict XIV, 1755

"Ministering at the altar, even in a subordinate capacity, is likewise forbidden. A decree says: "It is prohibited to any woman to presume to approach the altar or minister to the priest." (cap. Inhibendum, 1 de cohab.); for if a woman should keep silence in church, (St. Paul) much more should she abstain from the ministry of the altar, conclude the canonists."


1917 Catholic Encyclopedia, Woman

"Canon 44, "Women may not go to the altar"

Catholic Encyclopedia, Synod of Laodicea
holyrope 3
re: the extraordinary form,..the traditional Latin Mass..Cardinal Burke states....

"It's all together positive",


couldn't agree with him more!

"The faithful that assisted at the extraordinary form,...there was a wonderful spirit; there was an enrichment among the faithful."

Yes, there definitely is!

"The Holy Father is giving a very clear lesson by his own insistence that the faithful receiv…More
re: the extraordinary form,..the traditional Latin Mass..Cardinal Burke states....

"It's all together positive",


couldn't agree with him more!

"The faithful that assisted at the extraordinary form,...there was a wonderful spirit; there was an enrichment among the faithful."

Yes, there definitely is!

"The Holy Father is giving a very clear lesson by his own insistence that the faithful receive Communion kneeling and on the Tongue. He's teaching us something. This is a decision that he obviously made and with good reason, and so to me it's the case to Teach the faithful once Again about DUE REVERENCE ON RECEIVING HOLY COMMUNION and to Encourage them to consider a return to that traditional form of Communion KNEELING and Receiving Holy Communion on the TONGUE."

BRAVO!!!! Raymond Cardinal Burke
TTM
@tilarick,

'Latin' does not define the Extraordinary Form, since the Novus Ordo can also be said in Latin. With regards Vatican II, one has to go back to what Vatican II actually taught, instead of a popular conception of what it taught. Here's what the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy, Sacrosanctum Concilium states:

"36. 1. Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language …More
@tilarick,

'Latin' does not define the Extraordinary Form, since the Novus Ordo can also be said in Latin. With regards Vatican II, one has to go back to what Vatican II actually taught, instead of a popular conception of what it taught. Here's what the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy, Sacrosanctum Concilium states:

"36. 1. Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites.
54.... Nevertheless steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them."

"Back to the people" is also not the intention, since the reference point is facing away from the people but towards Christ in the Liturgical East (the sun symbolizing the Son). The people pray together with the priest and focus together on Christ in the Eucharistic Sacrifice.
tilarick
The Holy Mass in Latin with back to people whispering the prayers is wrong
and we will lose many members. The Vatican 11 was corect in making the
Ordinary Mass in the language of the people.
Me parece excelente.
JTLiuzza
Papabile?

I really really like this Cardinal.

That said, I hasten to add, long live Pope Benedict XVI.