“Well, you know that of course sex was tied to making babies for all those years,” she said, trying a new tack.
“Right,” I said.
“And now sex is for, well, self-expression and pleasure.”
“Here is where the problem lies,” I said.
“Yes,” she said, impatiently. “So what is the problem? Why does the Catholic Church…”
“…and the orthodox Jews, the Coptics, the Orthodox…”
“…okay, why do all these, er, religions, have a problem with sex being for pleasure? Why do they hate pleasure?’