The Church of Vatican II France: A Church on the road to extinction

Photo ~ Le Corbusier, Dominican Monastery of Sainte Marie de La Tourette, 1960. Created to house a boom in vocations, it now houses less than a dozen Dominican friars. Source.

The Church of Vatican II --
France: A Church on the road to extinction


On the eve of the 50th anniversary of the opening of Vatican II, Ifop / La Croix published a survey (Les Français et le catholicisme 50 ans après Vatican II - h/t to Le Salon Beige) on the state of Catholicism in France as of this year vis-a-vis the results of a similar survey in 1961. It contains important, updated information on the percentage of baptized Catholics in France and of church attendance in the same country as based on the survey results. The study itself was carried out only in late September of this year. In brief, the results of the survey are:

Baptized Catholics:

92% in 1961
80% in 2012

Mass attendance:

(Note: what is translated here as 'sometimes' is to be understood as 'sometimes in the course of the year' - quelquefois dans l'année.)

Among all French, whether baptized Catholic or not:

1961: 35% every Sunday or more, 33% sometimes, 24% never, 8% non-baptized.
2012: 6% every Sunday or more, 28% sometimes, 46% never, 20% non-baptized.

Among all baptized Catholics:

1961: 25% every Sunday, 13% "as often as possible", 36% sometimes, 26% never
2012: 5% every Sunday, 2% "as often as possible", 35% sometimes, 58% never

Regarding Mass attendance among baptized Catholics in 2012, by age group:

Age group 65 and above:

15% every Sunday, 4% "as often as possible", 35% sometimes, 46% never

Age group 50 to 64:

3% every Sunday, 3% "as often as possible", 38% sometimes, 56% never

Age group 35 to 49:

2% every Sunday, 1% "as often as possible", 37% sometimes, 60% never

Age group 25 to 34:

1% every Sunday, 1% "as often as possible", 33% sometimes, 65% never

Age group 18 to 24:

No figures (0%) for every Sunday, 2% "as often as possible", 19% sometimes, 79% never

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Comments from Rorate Caeli:
Why do people continue to brag about all the wonderful things that came from VII without any factual evidence to back it up, and with factual evidence to disprove it? This is worse, FAR worse, than watching politicians debate. This is borderline insanity! As a matter of fact, I hope it IS insanity. The only other clear option would be that we are just being lied to.
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Comments from Rorate Caeli:

Why do people continue to brag about all the wonderful things that came from VII without any factual evidence to back it up, and with factual evidence to disprove it? This is worse, FAR worse, than watching politicians debate. This is borderline insanity! As a matter of fact, I hope it IS insanity. The only other clear option would be that we are just being lied to.
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I know i have been lied to; clergy telling the faithful that VII said the alter rails must go, that we should stand to receive Our Lord ( and on the hand), that lay people should distribute Holy Communion, that Latin was in the past, sadly all lies.

The bishops, in Scotland anyway ( and their priests) oversaw and co-ordinated all of this, they organised it all. Why did the bishops and priests lie? I do not know the answer, but I do know that Satan is the father of all lies.I have actually read a lot on what the Council Fathers actually said on liturgy, for example and the lies we have been told by these clergy are astounding. Their arrogance is shocking.
Biology, I keep being told by friends trying to reassure me, will win the day. The truth is that the clergy (including those bishops)who know they lie should retire asap.

The Holy Father needs to appoint administraters in each country and send us ( here in Scotland) 200 missionary priests from Africa and Poland, so that Holy Mass may be offered in churches that are not locked up 6 days out of 7, so that the Mercy of God once again becomes available to a messed up world.

The catechists need to be replaced, the extra-ordinary ministers of the Holy Eucharist need removed immediately and the "liturgists" all removed to go with the clergy we have been subjected to. They talk about the role of the laity in the church and cluelessly get them up on the sanctuaury??? And still try to convince themselves ( and the laity) that they are in accord with the wishes of the Council Fathers???

As we say in Scotland, " are you having a laugh?"

The church will not revive in Europe until we have priests who are men, sure in the faith and in their role as Christ's concecrated. Not the wooly misguided understanding of the priestly people of God that the current clergy, going through their own, oh so personal, crisis of identitiy- keep hiding behind. Here lays the heart of the crisis - the clergy misguiding their flocks.Enough is enough, the "Kum ba ya m'lord" brigade ( and lay "ministries" fabricators) just need to go retire, please!
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Lord have mercy on us. What is happening in Europe, is only step away from here in the US where Mass attendance is about 15% amomng Catholics, more or less. Did'nt Pius XII warn us about all this?