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"For God will deliver them to themselves as a chastisement for their refusal to obey the requests of the Immaculate Heart of Mary"

Having reached the end of our inquiry, we are able to discern, with near certainty, the essential elements of Our Lady’s final Secret: While "in Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved", in many nations, perhaps in almost the entire world, the Faith will be lost (chap. 4). The pastors of the Church will fail gravely in the duties of their office. Through their fault, consecrated souls and the faithful in great number will let themselves be seduced by pernicious errors spread everywhere (chap. 5). This will be the time of the decisive battle between the Blessed Virgin and the devil. A wave of diabolical disorientation will be hurled over the world. Satan will introduce himself even to the highest summit of the Church. He will blind the minds and harden the hearts of pastors. For God will deliver them to themselves as a chastisement for their refusal to obey the requests of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (chap. 6). This will be the great apostasy predicted for the “last times (chap. 7); the “False Lamb” and “False Prophet” will betray the Church to the profit of “the Beast”, according to the prophecy of the Apocalypse (chap. 8).
- Frere Michel de la Sainte Trinite, The Whole Truth About Fatima, Volume III - Conclusion, pdf p. 576
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On the 81st Anniversary of the Secret of Fatima - 13 July 1998 - during a radio broadcast on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell, Father Malachi Martin (reader of the Third Secret in February of 1960) after hearing the “Neues Europa" text read on the air declared, "It is not the text which was given to me to read in 1960. There are elements in it which belong in the text."
(Verbatim transcript of the …More
On the 81st Anniversary of the Secret of Fatima - 13 July 1998 - during a radio broadcast on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell, Father Malachi Martin (reader of the Third Secret in February of 1960) after hearing the “Neues Europa" text read on the air declared, "It is not the text which was given to me to read in 1960. There are elements in it which belong in the text."
(Verbatim transcript of the exchange during the interview on 13 July 1998 below for your convenience)

Bell: Alright, here we go. And I really want to thank the person that transcribed this for me. The following is a transcription of what is possibly the third secret of Fatima, as read by Art Bell over the air on Coast to Coast AM on 5/14/98 a 34 minutes and 48 seconds into the program. And I began it with this preamble: Alright, I in no way want the following as being authentic. I have no way of knowing. All I can tell you is it feels real. It is alleged to be the third secret of Fatima; you decide for yourself. Here we go.

A great plague will befall mankind. Nowhere in the world will there be order. Satan will rule the highest places, determining the way of things. He will succeed in seducing the spirits of the great scientists, who invent arms with which it will be possible to destroy a large part of humanity in a few minutes. Satan will have his power: the powerful who command the people, and who will entice them to produce enormous quantities of arms. God will punish man more thoroughly than with the flood. There will come the time of all times, and the end of all ends. The great and powerful will perish together with the small and weak. Even for the Church, it will be the time of its greatest trial. Cardinals will oppose cardinals; bishops will oppose bishops. Satan will walk among them, and in Rome there will be changes. The Church will be darkened, and the world will be shaking with terror. One great war will erupt in the second half of the twentieth century. Fire and smoke will fall from the sky. The waters of the oceans will change into steam, and the steam will rise and overflow everything. The waters of the ocean will become mist. Millions and millions of people will die from hour to hour. Whoever remains alive will envy the dead. Everywhere one turns one's glance, there is going to be anguish and misery, ruins in every country. The time draws nearer. The abyss widens without hope, the good to perish with the bad, the great with the small, the princes of the Church with the faithful, the rulers with their people. There will be death everywhere because of the errors committed by non-believers and crazy followers of Satan, which will then, and only then, take control over the world. At the last, those who survive, will at every chance newly proclaim God and his glory, and they will serve him as when the world was not so perverted.
That's it. Fr. Martin?
Martin: Yes, Art?
Bell: Any comments on that?
Martin: I have listened to that, and I suppose the measured response I should give to it is this, in two parts really - two statements. It is not the text which was given to me to read in 1960. There are elements in it which belong in the text.

Bell: So in other words...I'm trying to step as carefully as I can - in other words you're suggesting this is not precisely what you had but there are elements of what you just heard-
Martin: Yes, there are elements which do belong in the third secret. Um...that's about the most measured response I could give to it.
Bell: Ok, that's fine. And I will not ask you to say more, but...bearing in mind what I just read, would you consider the third secret to be as traumatic as is suggested in what I read, or more so?
Martin: More so.
Bell: More so?
Martin: More so, yeah. Much more so. The...the… again, you know, Art, stepping very carefully, the central element in the third secret is awful, and it's not in that.
Bell: It's not in the text.
Martin: No, it's not. Thank God.
Bell: Now, I guess I would ask this. I understand that you have taken an oath.
Martin: That's right.
Bell: But have you considered that the shock that is required to turn things around may be this very serious- and it may be that it should be revealed?
Martin: To your last sentence, my full ascent. It SHOULD be revealed. But here's my difficulty, Art. I'm one small, little man. I have no public authority to do that. I do not know if that would be the will of God. And since it would have such dire effects - on much more than Christians; on many others - I can't make that decision. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
Bell: Yes.
Martin: I can't make that decision; I have no assurance that's God's will, and since this is a question of his supreme will as regards the world, the human race, it's existence, and its continuance, and its future, I... I have no authority.
Bell: Father, in what manner were you shown the third secret?
Martin: Because...the cardinal who showed it to me had been present at a meeting held by Pope John XXIII, in that year, 1960, to outline to a certain number of cardinals and prelates what he thought should be done with the secret, that John XXIII - Pope John XXIII, then pope in 1960 - did not think that he should publish the secret. It would ruin his, at that time, ongoing negotiations with Nikita Khrushchev, the boss of all the Russias, and he also had a different outlook on life, which, two years later, opening the Vatican council, he echoed, very succinctly and almost contemptuously. In the middle of his speech on October 11, in 1962, in St. Peter's, to the assembled bishops who had come for the Vatican council and the visitors - the place was crowded; huge basilica - he derided contemptuously the people he called prophets of doom, and there was no doubt in any of our minds he was talking about the three prophets of Fatima. He was against that.
Bell: There are those within the Church who minimize what is contained in the third secret.
Martin: Absolutely.
Bell: And then there are others who don't minimize it at all.
Martin: They exaggerate.
Bell: They exaggerate?
Martin: Yes, they do.
Bell: So without minimizing or without exaggerating, you're telling me that what's in the third secret is more horrible than what I just read, which-
Martin: Oh, yes, Art, it is. Because what you have just read- essentially it is the onslaught of natural powers- sure, Satan is walking, etc, like that, amongst men and bah-bah-bah-pah-ta-ti-pa-ta-da, but essentially it is as if nature revolted against the human race. That's essentially what- through all these terrible catastrophes and chastisements. And that's not the essence of the third secret. Not the frightening one.
Art: Oof.
Martin: Yeah, it does beggar the imagination.
Art: Well, again, in a sense, it would be such a shock that I understand that you have grave reservations about it. But if it would in effect right the Church...
Martin: Yeah. Yeah. I- If it would- but you know, Art, I have no guarantee. I have no authority that would say yes, the net result will be plus rather than minus. I have no authority, I have no revelation. No angel has tapped me on the shoulder. I've had no private divine dream like St. Joseph or Joseph in the old testament had. I have no authority, and I cannot arrogate to myself that authority because I may be putting my foot in my mouth, to put it in a mild fashion. I may be going ahead of the Lord, and we're supposed to walk, in the words of one Roman saint, five yards behind the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit. And besides that, Art, there's the question of shock, of scandal, of frightening people, and polarizing my human society - to which I belong, and to which I'm happy to belong, as God made me to belong to it as a member of the human race - and I cannot do that. Not...not just like that. I just can't. I wish I could. Because in human calculation, yes, this will shock, this will jerk people out, this will fill the confessionals on a Saturday evening, this will fill up the cathedrals and the basilicas and the churches with worshipers kneeling down, striking their breast. MAYBE. Maybe. Because, at the back of it all, Art, there's this regnant, reigning, as it were, Catholic truth, that nothing like that can happen unless God gives the grace, and I have no authority to presume that he will give me the grace- give the grace on the occasion of my doing anything like that.
Bell: With what- how much weight, Father, do you give to the entire Fatima revelations?

Martin: I consider it to be the key event in the declining fortune of the Roman Catholic organization and the defining event for the near future of the Church in the next millennium, the third millennium. It's the defining event. And that is why strong men- strong men, I mean- see, Art, when we speak about strong men, the amazing thing about the statecraft people, people who practice the craft of state, like Casaroli, who's just died, or Pope John Paul 2, here's what people always remark, say, about great figures in history like Napoleon, like Hitler, like Stalin: they had a will of indestructible power. And they could oppose the united wills of millions and make their point of view stick - to a certain degree anyway until they fell, until they became a cropper as we say in England. Similarly, in Rome, there are men with strong wills. They learned statecraft all their lives. They are engaged in macro government, not merely of religion but in state. They're up there, amongst the greats. And THEY will not touch this with a barge pole.
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(Later during the same interview mentioned above)
Bell: Alright, here we go. Just a couple of things I want to quickly read. One from a friend in Australia, Father, who says, "I had a Jesuit priest tell me more of the third secret of Fatima years ago in Perth. He said, among other things, the last pope would be under control of Satan. Pope John fainted thinking it might be him. We were interrupted …More
(Later during the same interview mentioned above)
Bell: Alright, here we go. Just a couple of things I want to quickly read. One from a friend in Australia, Father, who says, "I had a Jesuit priest tell me more of the third secret of Fatima years ago in Perth. He said, among other things, the last pope would be under control of Satan. Pope John fainted thinking it might be him. We were interrupted before I could hear the rest." Any comment on that?
Martin: Yes...uh...it sounds as if they were reading - or being told - the text of the third secret.
Bell: Oh my.
Martin: It sounds like it. But it's sufficiently vague to make one hesitate. It sounds like it.
[...]
Bell: Father, is there any circumstance under which you can imagine, that you would feel free to reveal the secret?
Martin: Yes. Yes. If there was a total collapse at the center.
Bell: And you anticipate that, don't you?
Martin: I anticipate it as a possibility, Art. I can't predict, but I anticipate it as a possibility, certainly, yes. I do.
Live Mike
Amen on Desmond Birch's book... it´s a fine reference resource.
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Fr. Malachi Martin is able to draw upon his knowledge of the Fatima Secret to answer the question during this interview with Bernard Janzen in 1992 entitled, The Kingdom of Darkness:
Janzen: In our discussion earlier you just touched on the subject of Satan's assault on the papacy. Perhaps we could have a brief discussion about that.
Martin: [
...] what I think is fatally necessary for every Catholic …More
Fr. Malachi Martin is able to draw upon his knowledge of the Fatima Secret to answer the question during this interview with Bernard Janzen in 1992 entitled, The Kingdom of Darkness:

Janzen: In our discussion earlier you just touched on the subject of Satan's assault on the papacy. Perhaps we could have a brief discussion about that.
Martin: [
...] what I think is fatally necessary for every Catholic to know, and that is the fate of the papacy and the coming stress and danger that we shall be without the strength of the papacy.
Bernard: Is it ever possible that the cardinals at a future conclave could elect a heretical pope?
Martin: [
brief pause over the sensitive nature of the question] You know…they have elected men in the past who had heretical ideas. Two or three. They have never elected yet an apostate…an apostate. [] An apostate has rebelled against the very fundamental of faith and rejected God and Christ. We have apostates now who are papabili [men who could be elected pope]. Yes, we could have an apostate. But in that day, then we are into something terrible. We’re into something which, Bernard, is something that, if you think on it, in full knowledge of the meaning of your terms, is nightmarish. It would test the faith of St. Catherine of Sienna. It would test the faith of the greatest saint. It would try the patience of Job. It would be a black day; a day on which you can clothe every window in black and put out the lights and dress in sackcloth & ashes and pray that you're spared because your faith is going to be battered to pieces...if that happens. ’cause then, they have the prize and everything goes underground. And we are indeed on our way to becoming what Paul VI, in his misery, called, in 1978, an infinitesimally small part of humanity. Completely marginalized and pushed to the side and forgotten as a quaint group of people as interesting as Tibetan astrologers on a modern campus. @The New Knights Templar
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Live Mike
There was a YouTube channel called "Christus Rex"? long since removed by the thought-police. That channel had a two part series on the Third Secret of Fatima... the producer had a link in the description where to download nearly all of the excerpts from Fr. Malachi Martin where he mentioned the Third Secret of Fatima. The author of the document neglected to mention only a few regarding the Ukraine. …More
There was a YouTube channel called "Christus Rex"? long since removed by the thought-police. That channel had a two part series on the Third Secret of Fatima... the producer had a link in the description where to download nearly all of the excerpts from Fr. Malachi Martin where he mentioned the Third Secret of Fatima. The author of the document neglected to mention only a few regarding the Ukraine. @The New Knights Templar
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Jeffrey Ade
Chiesa viva has the authentic Third Secret according to Fr. Villa!
Live Mike
Do you have a link?
Jeffrey Ade
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