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Italy: “Francis Spring” Makes Excellent Progress

Over the last ten years, the number of seminarians in Italy went down by 28%.

According to the Italian Bishops, today there are 1,804 seminarians while in 1970 – when the number of vocations had already dropped because of the failed Vatican II - there were 6,500.

Father Marco d’Agostino, the rector of Cremona seminary told IlGiornale.it that seminarians are not “heroes against the tide,” rather “anything but that.”

This may explain why so many priests are dead fish tossed around by the empty waves made by the oligarchs’ media.

Picture: © Aleteia Image Department, CC BY-SA, #newsNtspluopvz

John A Cassani
Seminary faculties, always well attuned to the political situation in their diocese, ad well as the Church-at-large, have moved quite a bit to the left, after having swung to the right in the latter days of JPII and the early days of Benedict XVI. Prospective seminarians, at least the ones who go in with their eyes open, can see this, and stay away. And, in all likelihood, the FSSP is not going to …More
Seminary faculties, always well attuned to the political situation in their diocese, ad well as the Church-at-large, have moved quite a bit to the left, after having swung to the right in the latter days of JPII and the early days of Benedict XVI. Prospective seminarians, at least the ones who go in with their eyes open, can see this, and stay away. And, in all likelihood, the FSSP is not going to be an option for much longer. Of course, the average Sunday pewsitter, who, as Phil Lawler has recently pointed out, doesn’t recognize the validity of the Novus ordo (70% not believing in the Real Presence), couldn’t care less if there were no more priests. It was different, not too long ago.
Darrell J Roman
Francis is the problem... As a John Paul II priest we wanted to be like him.. his joy, love, dedication, to the church, Christ and the people was seen in him.. Today, who wants to follow a "Grumpy Old Man" who beats everyone to death, except the Globalists, Communists and Mother Earth lovers.
SonoftheChurch
Let’s just all hope that the percentage of sodomites among the seminarians has decreased as well.
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
Nope. There's more, not less. This is another blessing of Pope Francis. Just read about the North American College in Rome. Homos are streaming in since Francis, students and faculty. Encounters are common. The good men there during Benedict XVI are fleeing, or disiplined out for being "conservatives". Enrollement under JP II- 175 per yr. in general, under Benedict XVI, 250( 2012), under Francis -…More
Nope. There's more, not less. This is another blessing of Pope Francis. Just read about the North American College in Rome. Homos are streaming in since Francis, students and faculty. Encounters are common. The good men there during Benedict XVI are fleeing, or disiplined out for being "conservatives". Enrollement under JP II- 175 per yr. in general, under Benedict XVI, 250( 2012), under Francis - 123 (2021 total).
Pontifical Roman Seminary ordinations at the Vatican yearly by the Pope in St. Peter's-under JPII (40-50 per year), Benedict XVI (40-50 per year), Francis (8)...for 2021. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what's wrong, or who is to blame.
P. O'B
Failed Vatican II? No, it has achieved its goals quite well.
SonoftheChurch
I’m afraid you are, as usual, vastly mistaken, @Kenjiro M. Yoshimori, in your insidiously shameful hast to constantly ascribe evil to the Holy Father in all things - which you clearly take much demented delight in doing, when you calumniously state that he is to blame for, and is an advocate of, the rise of homosexuals attending seminary and increased homosexual activity among seminarians.
Pope …More
I’m afraid you are, as usual, vastly mistaken, @Kenjiro M. Yoshimori, in your insidiously shameful hast to constantly ascribe evil to the Holy Father in all things - which you clearly take much demented delight in doing, when you calumniously state that he is to blame for, and is an advocate of, the rise of homosexuals attending seminary and increased homosexual activity among seminarians.

Pope Francis has spoken clearly, openly and forcefully regarding this matter and has made his position as Supreme Pontiff unambiguously clear: that sodomites, in accordance with longstanding Church Teaching and Practice, are not to be admitted into seminary. As a matter of fact, it was the Italian Bishops themselves to whom His Holiness spoke directly and expressly regarding this very subject, and fully affirmed the Church’s ban on admitting homosexuals to the priesthood. So your lies notwithstanding, the Holy Father does NOT promote the abomination of sodomy in seminaries, nor is he to blame for any rise in numbers of those seminarians who practice such vile and unnatural acts.

catholicnewsagency.com/…rch-practice-against-admitting-gay-men-to-seminary

nbcnews.com/…e-s-worried-about-homosexuality-priesthood-n942726

If you find it so necessary to castigate and besmirch the Holy Father in your extreme aversion and bitter hatred of him, daily spewing blasphemous allegations and aspersions founded upon utter calumny about Christ’s own Vicar, perhaps you should first make sure you know about those things of which you speak, so that in your schismatic ignorance you won’t embarrass yourself and those who think seditiously like you.

Now, Merry Christmas to you. And may you and your family have a very safe, wonderful and blessed celebration of our Lord’s nativity!
JOY TO THE WORLD, THE LORD IS COME
Kenjiro M. Yoshimori
"Pope Francis has spoken clearly, openly and forcefully regarding this matter and has made his position as Supreme Pontiff unambiguously clear: that sodomites, in accordance with longstanding Church Teaching and Practice, are not to be admitted into seminary. "
SonoftheChurch-
I feel sorry for you. I'm Japanese-American, but I've studied China under Mao, and the way you blindly stand up for Bergoglio …More
"Pope Francis has spoken clearly, openly and forcefully regarding this matter and has made his position as Supreme Pontiff unambiguously clear: that sodomites, in accordance with longstanding Church Teaching and Practice, are not to be admitted into seminary. "

SonoftheChurch-

I feel sorry for you. I'm Japanese-American, but I've studied China under Mao, and the way you blindly stand up for Bergoglio, and call him such honorable names reminds me of the Red Guards, who were brainwashed in their delusional adulation of Chairman Mao, no matter what evil he said, and they committed and allowed for unspeakable evils in his name, or by his direction. I'm not comparing Francis to Mao per se, I'm just saying that the way you fawn over him is exactly how the Red Guards acted, and the present day disciples of Kim Jung Un and his late father in North Korea.
Fortunately in the Church today, largely due to the example of Bergoglio, who has departed so far from traditional Catholicism and Catholic belief in word and deed, that there are far less people (especially young people), willing to hang on his every word and say "Yes Holy Father, No Holy Father, whatever you say is right IS right, Holy Father". That type of mindset unfortunately was strong under the reign of JPII, who though a legitimate Pope who for the most part upheld traditional Catholic teaching, it dissipated under Benedict XVI not because Catholics disliked him, or hated what he stood for, but because he did not have the charismatic aura that JPII exuded, even in his very last days. Many claimed that it was electric to be in the presence of JPII and hear him speak, while on the other hand, some said that to listen to Benedict XVI was like sitting in a lecture by a college professor. Both however, upheld and maintained traditional Catholic doctrine and dogma.
Francis does not, and has not. He has openly supported homosexuals, and stated that civil unions (i.e. marriages) are permissable. Something JPII and Benedict never would have said. Francis' "who am I to judge" shtich on a plane before the media was taken by millions as a repudiation of traditional Catholic theology....and neither he or the Vatican corrected them. Moreover, there are many active homosexuals --bishops and priests--in the Vatican, including bishops, appointed by Francis who knows well what they are, and what they do after hours.
Read about the North American College, and the network of gays infesting the place, from the top administrators and faculty, to squads of seminarians....most in place since Bergoglio became pope. JUst this year, the rector, vice-rector, and several priest-faculty resigned/were fired for being active homosexuals and promoting such filth in the NAC (North American College). The enrollemnt there since Bergoglio became pope has gone from 250 during Benedict XVI (when they were even building a new wing to house the increase), to 123 today, due to students leaving because they strongly disapprove of the direction on Francis, or because they left because of the corruption and gay subculture of the NAC and it's administration.
I could go on and on as to the complete break from Catholic tradition, disipline, and teachings (doctrine and dogma) under Francis and his associates/appointments. But I won't waste my time. One picture, however, covers it all. Look it up....it's there on YouTube. It was the day a year or so ago when the statue of the "pachamamma" was processed into St. Peter's itself, and blessed and prayed over by Francis and a group of bishops and laity participating in the Synod on Latin America. That kind of thing and what has been done to the Tidentine LAtin Mass by Francis and associates, is why more and more faithful Catholics disapprove/dislike/hate Pope Francis, his people and his agenda. He is turning the Church into something other than Catholic, and therefore to millions, including me, has forfeited the right to be called "Holy Father", or "Supreme Pontiff" or Vicar of Christ", both titles which he himself has repudiated.
I do suggest that you read the reports, of all the times Francis and his people are departing from the Catholic Faith and its traditions...degrading it, insulting it, repudiating it. For all Francis is doing to actually destroy the Catholic Faith, you sound like some sort of fanatic still praising him, and addressing him with those honorific titles. Despite all his crimes, Just like the Red Guards did for Chairman Mao.