When I meet a non Catholic on the streets I know he is on the way to Hell since he could not be in the subsist it category

DECEMBER 18, 2016

When I meet a non Catholic on the streets I know he is on the way to Hell since he could not be in the subsist it or know or did not know about Jesus and the Church category


Catechism classes are being held in Italy.If I was there I would tell them that when I meet a non Catholic I assume he is on the way to Hell and this is the teaching of the Catholic Church(Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14 in Vatican Council II, Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441).I cannot meet any one on the streets saved in invincible ignorance or because God is not limited to the Sacraments, or because only those who know about Jesus and the Church need to enter.I cannot meet someone who would come under the subsist it category or is outside the visible boundaries of the the Church.I don't know of any such person.
I cannot meet any one who is saved because he knew about Jesus and the Church and did not enter or who did not know and did not enter.Either way they do not contradict Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) or the dogma which says all need to be incorporated into the Church as members.


The ordinary way of salvation in the Catholic Church is 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II). In inter-religious dialogue it is important to remember that the Church is the ordinary means of salvation (Redemptoris Missio 55). The Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water (Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257). Extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence).Even though Christ died for all and the offer of salvation is universal all need to enter the Church for this salvation (Dominus Iesus 20),God the Father wants to unite all mankind in the Catholic Church (Catechism of the Catholic Church 845), the Church is like the Ark of Noah that saves in the Flood (CCC 845) etc.This is the norm.

I cannot meet someone saved in imperfect communion with the Church or with elements of sanctification and truth or seeds of the Word.Nor is this the ordinary way of salvation. In fact these cases are unknown and invisible for us if they existed.
The Church does not teach that the baptism of desire is the ordinary means of salvation.
I cannot meet someone on the streets who will be saved with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water.
I cannot meet someone who will be saved in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
Neither can I meet or see any one who has been saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and who is an example of salvation outside the Church. There is no known salvation outside the Church. There are no 'practical exceptions' to the Ad Gentes 7, CCC 1257,Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence, Dominus Iesus 20 etc.

There are no practical exceptions in 2016 to Jesus' teaching on the need for the baptism of water for salvation(John 3:5). I cannot meet someone who is an exception to Mark 16:16 'those who do not believe will be condemned.'
So when I meet a non Catholic I know he is on the way to Hell, not because I can judge personally, but because the Church teaches this in magisterial documents before and after Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 17, 2016

When I meet a non Catholic on the streets I know he is on the way to Hell since the Catholic Church teaches this : this would be news for many Catholics
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