There is something strange with the SSPX

I can't find one link from the SSPX showing the SSPX Chapels in Russia. Something is not right. I love the SSPX but they are not being honest when it comes to Russia. Not only that, but trying to search for a Chapel in Russia is impossible. They don't list even one, when I know there is at least two of them. Why don't they mention even one Chapel in Russia?

Josef Schuztman has mentioned the one he attends and I believe another one in Russia.

This is from a Russian site where they mention where the SSPX Chapels are. They list at least 3 in different cities. But not how many there are.

The largest number of Brotherhood followers are concentrated in France, Germany, Switzerland and Austria. The Superior General of the Brotherhood is the Italian priest Davide Pagliarani, who succeeded Bishop Bernard Fellay. The Brotherhood's chapels of St. Pius X are also located in Moscow, Saint Petersburg and Minsk.

Священническое братство святого Пия X — Википедия

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V.R.S.

Strange but probably not with SSPX.
SSPX Fined For Proselytism in Russia — Who Else …

V.R.S. How sad that a Priest would break the law.
An illicit hotel room Mass was the basis for first known charge against a Catholic for violating 2016 law.
For the first time, Russia has prosecuted a Catholic leader for illegal missionary activity.”.
the priest did not have written authorization to perform missionary activity.
Everyone must register. I guess he thought he was above the law in a country that isn't even his. You break the law and you will pay for it. They monitor religious of any kind to make sure they aren't preaching filth or "HATE" or evil and anything like that. Remember it's Russia that has kicked out many evil religions.
Thank GOD he didn't go to jail. By the way that is not new to me. I remember that years ago. Did you forget I have been following Russia and Putin for decades?

Russia banned and kicked out satanism, mormons, jw's ,scientologists, pentecostals, and adventist evil cults. Also working on two others as well. And still waiting for the creep in D.C. to ban and arrest satanist from teaching Children about satanism and how good it is in our schools.
It takes the TFP to stop them. Imagine that! You try to find many ways of condemning Russia even when they do good things. You won't win. So sorry.

Notice "FIRST TIME'"! Break the law in every country and you will pay the consequences. I thought you knew and agreed with that? As a Catholic we don't or shouldn't break any law. But for a Priest to break the law? Then there is something wrong with him. Let's hope they don't break the law again and cause serious problems in Russia and follow the law. We need SSPX in Russia to spread the truth. Unfortunately they are not the SSPX during Lefebvre time. V.R.S.

V.R.S.

"I thought you knew and agreed with that'
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Not at all. I do not care about bad laws of tyrannical totalitarian states or super-states. Soviet Union or European Union - does not matter.
Especially, after so-called pandemics.
Thus, I thank God for valiant priests having fortitude to ignore impious laws.

Valiant Priests who break the law? You are ridiculous. Anything to hate Russia. To lie and push your propaganda. NO ONE should break the law. Especially a Priest. He must set a great example on how to obey. first step is any law of a country he does not belong part of.
Sorry, I don't think anyone should break the law. Especially in someone else's country. There can be dire consequences on that. Thankfully he only got a fine. Next time he should obey the law of another country. I don't care what country it is. Russia, Poland, US, etc.
And I guess as usual you forgot another point to that article.
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!!!! Wow! Just give it up already.
And again, they must monitor everyone so they don't preach hate, evil things or attacks on their country and why they banned so many evil doers. While Catholics are free to preach and serve Mass. As long as they are not violating the laws and registered as that is the LAW! Break the law and oh! well. Pay the cost.

In other counties they are jailed and even murdered. Remember that! Ok, ignore it as you do with all truth. Not my problem.

V.R.S.

Yes just as in the Church history glorious martyrs defied impious laws of pagan Rome.
This is Christianity (not to be mistaken with Caesaropapism or Tzaropapism).

lol You forget Catholicism is allowed in Russia. Russia also gave back our Catholic Church which is right on Red Square right in Front of the Kremlin who holds not one, not two but several Mass's in one day! Imagine my surprise. NOT!
Just follow the law.. Just like the rest of us. He would not be a true Martyr because Catholicism IS ALLOWED IN RUSSIA!
Again, give it up please. Your hatred and lies will get you no where. Obey the law and no one gets hurt. Doesn't go to jail. Does not pay fines and so on.
No! He would not be a Martyr because he broke the law in a country that our Faith is allowed and preached.
Why do you think 1,000,000 or more Russians have converted? I don't see Russia banning Catholicism for that? NO! They are free to preach! They are free to have Church's.
They said, there are no processions in Russia. I posted a procession in Russia, In front of the Kremlin right on Red Square. If that's not freedom, People even Priest don't tell the truth. But I will post the truth. What would be acceptable to you anyhow? Then again I am sure you will 'TRY" to come up with some nonsense. Give it a break already. sheesh

V.R.S.

Yes, I am following the law. As St. Thomas More - another glorious martyr against the above-mentioned heresy and idolatry of positive state law - God's law first. Or like the First Pope said: we ought to obey rather God than men.
And in the Great Culture War waged mercilessly against few remnants of Christianity, I am on the Catholic side, not on the side of the US, EU, China, Russia, Zion or any other behemoth.

Here we go again. Sorry, It is allowed in Russia. And Russia IS NOT HIS COUNTRY. Aren't we told to obey the law of each country? NO ONE stopped him from saying Mass. But he or the other Priest broke the law.
If Catholicism was not allowed in Russia. I would be the first to cheer that Priest's actions. But it is allowed! But he still broke the law. Shame on you for once again seeing evil as good and good as evil. You and your buddy just keep racking up the sins. Oh! Well, Not my problem.
I WILL REPEAT WHAT I WROTE TWICE A THIRD TIME FOR YOU IN CAPS TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE IT OK?
CATHOLICISM IS ALLOWED IN RUSSIA.
THERE IS NO PROBLEM. JUST REGISTER AS EVERYONE ELSE IS FOR EVERYTHING.
THERE ARE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S IN RUSSIA.
THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SAY MASS.
AGAIN, OVER 1,000,000 RUSSIANS CONVERTED BECAUSE OF THE PRIESTS ALREADY THERE WHO ARE REGISTERED AND DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW.
THAT NUMBER OF CONVERSIONS IS ONE MILLION. JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE AND TOOK IT AS HUNDRED'S OR THOUSANDS.
HE COULD SAY A MASS OR ALLOW SOMEONE ELSE TO SAY IT IF THEY ONLY WERE REGISTERED AND FOLLOWED THE LAW.
DID YOU GET THAT NOW? STILL WANT TO BE STUBBORN AND LOOK FOR EVIL WHEN THERE IS NONE? NOT MY PROBLEM. BUT YOURS. JUST SO YOU KNOW.

One potential group of immigrants are traditionalist Catholics who are “white Americans with many children,” which the US government considers “domestic terrorists,” Beslangurov said.
If you bother to see any of my posts you would see there are many who moved to Russia already. some already looking to get their Russiancitizenship.
I wonder why Russia would allow Catholics to move and protect Traditional Catholics when you and your buddy claim they are so evil and hate us? hmmm
‘Migrant village’ for conservative Americans to …
Well there ya go V.R.S. Those evil Russians trying to destroy The Catholic Faith. And to keep them out of Russia. So evil of them to give them "FREE LAND"! Shame on them for helping and protecting us SSPX from being persecuted.
Wait! What's this?
In a remarkable demonstration of compassion, servicemen from the Russian Armed Forces Group in Syria delivered over 500 kilograms of humanitarian aid to the Holy Mother of Theresa House, a facility dedicated to supporting individuals with disabilities. This essential aid included grocery kits with oil, canned milk, flour, rice, tea, and sugar, as well as diesel fuel for heating the facility.
syriatimes.sy/…manitarian-aid-to-the-mother- …
Sorry didn't save and can't find others like them. And besides I post some already. In comments and personal posts.
Those evil Russians. Shame on them for helping us Catholics whenever they can. It should be outlawed so they can never help us again.
Right?
Wrong again! If only you and your buddy had as much love and compassion as the Russians. This world would be so much better. Now, would you please stop your propaganda full of hate and lies and twisting the good the Russians do?
Maybe?
Well, I won't hold my breath. It's your problem not mine.

123jussi

The strange thing about the SSPX is that they remain Catholic in this pagan world of ours.

Yes, mostly. But they are slipping from it. I can see it and hear it. But I still love them very much because it is from GOD. Just like the true Church. I love her and no one in the Vatican can take me from Her. I belong to an SSPX Chapel and I will not stop ever. I go for the Mass and Confession. The rest I ignore when I hear them talking nonsense.

I remember my Mother Superior asking me once if I wanted to join the SSPX in France when I was having issues with the convent I was in.., I had no tolerance of the Novus Ordo and apparently that was a problem. I thought, it being a more traditional kind of convent they would be more like-minded to me, but apparently, I was quite alone in my traditional thinking.. me and the chaplain, and he was having disagreements with the Superior over it all. most of the time there was a daily TLM there, approved by the diocese, but the Superior also made it clear in her view "the Mass was the Mass". The other sisters, whatever their true thoughts were on the matter, never made it explicit they were in tune with my way of thinking. A torturous situation to be in over the long term, in a Carmelite convent where no two convents are alike, and there is outright persecution in the worldwide Church going on over this very issue.

And so, yeah, I returned to England, to London, where in any case one has options regarding the TLM, even now.. after all that has gone on since.. And if I may say so, the Mass down the road from me here at the Oratory had greater merit and efficacy than the conventual Mass where i was, even though that lifestyle in traditional Carmel is kind of the best on earth and unlike any elsewhere. Even though, of course, it wasnt perfect, and there were issues. And you cant go on the internet generally.

Yeah - it is not good to feel like your Superior is your tormentor.

Not all all. Very sad thing to know you went through that. I am sorry.

remnantnewspaper.com/…17-the-first-mass-of-fr- …

This is so weird that others know of SSPX Chapels and Priests in Russia, But the SSPX hides it from us. I searched in so many different ways and I only found that link to a Russian site and nothing from the SSPX. Even SSPX Locations outside of Russia. Thank you again Denis.

Also in Russia is Father Dr. Alexander Krysov, a priest of the Congregation of Mary Immaculate Queen (CMRI), led by Bishop Mark Pivarunas. He pastors parishes in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Gelendzhik, and Sevastopol.
Also in Russia is the Society of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, represented in various cities and pastored by Bishop Thomas Huber (Духовенство — Общество Святейшего Сердца Иисуса

Thank you.
We need more SSPX Priests in Russia. I hope soon some will ask to be transferred there. Josef Schutzman has said, the Chapel he goes to is way, way too small. It needs to be enlarge a lot! That tells me there are many SSPX layman there and not enough Church's or Priests. I hope the SSPX is not forbidding anyone from going to Russia or keeping them out because of the Vatican. The Catholic Church is permitted to build more Church's in Russia. So, it's not the fault of Russia but our own Society.
Years ago Russia said there was at least 200 applications to move to Russia. And I know many more are planning on it, in the process of an application and so on.
And they are SSPX! Especially when the government was spying on us. So the SSPX needs to send their Priests to Russia so the people do not do without the True Mass. That's just my opinion though. There are more protestant no mess church's in Russia.

Denis Efimov

Yes, there are many Catholics in Russia who adhere to the conciliar church, but there are also many traditional Catholics. I think the ratio between the two in Russia is equivalent to the global ratio. Russia is acutely short of traditional priests. In fact, there are only two (one from the SSPX and one from the CMRI). There are also conciliar priests who celebrate traditional Mass in Moscow and St. Petersburg, but there are also only one or two of them. Thus, almost the entire country, with the exception of two or four cities, lives without regular traditional Mass. A plane flight from the eastern part of the country to cities where traditional Mass is celebrated takes about eight hours (and an eight-hour flight back), and a round-trip ticket costs about $400 (plus hotel expenses, etc.).

How do you know so much about this? Can you share your sources for me? I hope to look into them.
As far as only one SSPX Priest, I don't think that is right because I am sure Josef said he goes to 2 SSPX Church's. He also goes to an Armenian Church as well.
In Moscow the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception I believe but not positive also has a Latin Mass said as well. Not sure if it's from the SSPX.
The one Priest can't go to both to say Mass. Maybe it just needs to be update. I will try to find the video where Josef mentioned it.
It's a shame the SSPX does not send more Priests there. And I am sure there is more in Russia than St. Petersburg and Moscow. I will try to pray for more SSPX Priests to go to Russia. I am sure they are much needed.
Thank you for all the info Denis, I really appreciate it very much.

There are several other Catholic Churches in Moscow. We try to keep schedules current, but be sure to check with them for any changes in Mass times.
I checked this travel site before. But didn't read it now.
Moscow - The Catholic Travel Guide

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As is well known, within the Catholic Church there are 23 "....Churches in their own right".which are groupings of local Churches or dioceses of the same rite. In addition to the Latin Church, which is the largest, since almost 90 percent of Catholics belong to it, there are others, such as the Armenian, Coptic, Ukrainian, Syro-Malabar, Melkite, Maronite, etc., all of which are Catholic. The smallest of these Eastern Rite Catholic churches is the Byzantine Rite Russian Catholic Church.
Did you see this article I posted this month?
Fatima shrine project in St. Petersburg outlined …

Denis Efimov

At the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception in Moscow, traditional Mass is celebrated only once a month (on the first Sunday of each month). Father Antonio Serrano celebrates the Mass. In St. Petersburg, traditional Mass is celebrated two Saturdays each month. Father Michal Margefka celebrates the Mass. And there, too, it's a conciliar church (they observe the Traditionis Custodes).
Una Voce Russia
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The SSPX has two chapels, information about which I have provided links above, but most likely there is only one priest for both chapels. I've never heard of another priest in Russia besides Father Victor. If you have any information about the name of the second priest, please let me know.

I will let you know if I ever find the info. SSPX site is very quiet about Priests in Russia. I got the information I know from Josef Schutzman on yt and a site I don't know if I kept it or not. I will look into it for you and for myself. Thank you again for everything.

Denis Efimov

As far as I know, in Russia they have only one priest – Fr. Viktor Pasichnik.
The chapel in Minsk isn't in Russia, as Minsk is in Belarus. Here are links to chapels in St. Petersburg and Moscow:
Часовня Фатимской Божией Матери - католическая …
Часовня Непорочного Сердца Девы Марии FSSPX