The truth is with all these groups, is that they are full of elderly people, and seldom, if ever, recruit the young. The young 'gay' people aren't interested in singing folk hymns with the elderly. They're not even interested in Catholicism. They just want to have a good time on the 'gay' pub and club scene. Look at the photo below for the Westminster LGBT Catholics group. Hardly teeming with youth and vitality, so therefore not the future of the Church. Also, these groups are very adept at deceiving people about how numerous they are. They are not. There was a claim made at one point that there would be an 'LGBT' Mass in every diocese - it never happened, because there simply aren't enough people who are same-sex attracted and also want to identify as Catholic. The 2021 Office of National Statistics mandatory census for England & Wales showed that only 1.54% of the population identified as 'gay or lesbian'. Census reveals LGBT numbers Only 8.3% of the population identified as Catholic, so only a fraction of the 1.54% of those who identified as 'gay or lesbian' would also identify as a Catholic. When someone like Cardinal Nichols comes to say Mass for them, they pad their numbers out with friends and family, and non-Catholics, to make it look as though there is a burgeoning pastoral need. There isn't. They also latch on to the secular 'Pride' marches, which always makes it look as though there are more of them. Of course, the Vatican document to the Bishops on the Pastoral Care of Homosexuals has gone right out the window - but it is still on the Vatican website and needs to be read: vatican.va/…con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html