Sorry Brother Chris, But We DID Know!

@chris griffin Number 1 - Yes he did, not only did he display his delusion during his campaign, he's spent his entire LIFE displaying his utter corruption, pathological lying and deception, narcissism, predatory depravity, unabated greed, and his relentless love, approval and support for abomination and perversity, INCLUDING all that we saw and heard from him during his first term in office. So we ALL knew thoroughly who he was, what he was like and what he would do, based on what he actually said and a lifetime of public and private conduct.
Number 2 - All who voted for Adulterer Trump DID indeed vote for a "mass murdering baby killer" in spite of the fact that they did not cast a vote for Harris. Because, when it comes to the issue of baby-killing, the proof is in the pudding, either you are willing to allow it (under all or any circumstances and by any method available) or you don't. There is NO MIDDLE GROUND with the murder of children, no place for compromise or seeing and accepting the glass as “half full”…..none whatsoever. Thus, Trump is as guilty as Harris in this regard. Or do you not remember he emphatically and explicitly stated publicly that he opposed and would never sign into law a nationwide ban on baby-murder even if one was passed by Congress and placed on his desk? Or do you not consider IVF, which he totally supports and just SIGNED an Executive Order to expand, to be the murder of millions of living unborn children? Also, are you going to ignore, defend, excuse, justify and give him a pass for appointing known abortion supporters and sodomites to his Cabinet and in his White House Administration? You, more than anyone else on this platform should well know and believe that MURDER IS MURDER, baby killing is baby killing, the slaughter of unborn children is SLAUGHTER....regardless of whether it is a Democrat that allows and commits it or a Republican. This is what Catholic voters unleashed upon America and the world, and just as Sacred Scripture warns us: having sown the wind, we shall reap the whirlwind.

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123jussiApr 12

All I know is he defeated Hillary and Kamala ,thank God.

Jeffrey AdeApr 12

You write such sweet comments! However you are mistaken if you think Trump beat anybody except the American people. If the "deep state" was so powerful to keep Trump out of the 2024 elections, then having four more years to consolidate their power you would have to be, and I am being charitable, because I like you, mistaken to believe the mantra, "too big to steal." It was all a set up! God bless you!

Jeffrey AdeFeb 27edited

@chris griffin Thank you for your comment. You said "There is absolutely no catholic teaching whatsoever to back up your assertion." That is a false accusation. You are incorrect in your assertion that voting for the lesser of two evils is Catholic. I posted the The Catholic Principles for Voting here Just found this out and wanted you to see it and l… maybe you should read to learn what the Church teaches.
It can never be obligatory to vote for evil. You mention common sense but you do not mention authentic Catholic Church teaching or have any reference other then your comment about JP2. I have produced a voters guide based on Catholic teaching! Once again you defer to the logical fallacy of false dilemma! For any conscientious Catholic the obvious choice was not to materially participate in evil! You are the one misrepresenting Catholic teaching. God bless you!

Chung Clement JaehoFeb 28

@Jeffrey Ade you are totally right!! my great online friend, brother Jeffrey!! Orthodox Catholic and Christian people are who unconditionally support Trump, JD Vance, and the current Republicans, all they can say is choose the lesser of two evils... Is it because they can't even grasp that they keep piling up to become a greater evil? I'll say it one more time... they're just like any other victims of domestic violence. Victims of domestic violence are always like this. They'll be better tomorrow, they'll be okay... and so many times they end up being victimized....It's a shame that all the people who support people like Trump, J.D. Vance, current Republicans, Viktor Orban, Javier Millay, etc., are so enthusiastic about this manufactured conservatism and not what they actually do.....one more strongly tell again.... so we must escape to wrong Cultism... it's a very very dangerous and wrong way.... after than.... Until the moment granted by our Lord Jesus Christ, whether it is this time or tomorrow, we must fight against all false ideologies, defending Orthodox teaching and the real truth!!! our Lord Sacred Heart of Jesus bless you, your family, and all your loved ones with His infinite grace always....Holy Mary, all Angels and Saints.. pray for us... Amen.. take care.. have a great night..

chris griffinFeb 28

@Jeffrey Ade, Chung Clement Jaeho

chris griffinFeb 28

"Nevertheless, it is permissible" That proves my case by your own words.

Jeffrey AdeFeb 28edited

@chris griffin Actually it does not prove your case. You are promoting the logical fallacy that all Catholics had to vote for the lesser of two evils. You promoted the moral obligation to vote for evil! We promoted the Catholic Teaching that we do not have to vote for evil. You objected to that and said it was not Catholic Teaching. You chose to vote for evil not because it was permissible, which is the Catholic Teaching, in certain circumstances, but because it was imperative and a moral obligation. There is a difference.

chris griffinMar 1

@Jeffrey Ade, Chung Clement Jaeho...."Nevertheless, it is permissible" is the correct Catholic teaching which I said all along. You misapplied my comments and misinterpreted my argument. "Nevertheless, it is permissible" is what I said all along.
Chung, I hope you now understand the true Catholic position on this matter.

Jeffrey AdeMar 1

@chris griffin I guess I misunderstood you when you said "no Catholic could have voted for Harris. there was no other choice." I thought you meant there was no other choice but to vote for Trump. I am glad we are in agreement on the Catholic Churches teaching regarding voting, that while it is permissible, it is never obligatory to vote for the lesser of two evils. And also, those who choose to vote for the lesser evil materially cooperate with that evil! God bless you!

Chung Clement JaehoMar 1edited

@Jeffrey Ade you are totally right!! my great online friend, brother Jeffrey!!! If you keep justifying small evils like that, eventually those small evils will turn into huge evils!! The orthodox Catholic and Christian people are who blindly support Trump, JD Vance and the current Republicans, ignore this truth and only want human saviors and human heroes....so disgusting! and I heard about Speaker Mike Johnson's message... he said about it....(Western nations must reject ‘technocratic tyranny,’ return to Christian values..) jajajaja!! are you kidding??? this stupid man same to JD Vance!!! he didn't even mention the Israeli, Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian, and Armenian Christian people are who are being persecuted and oppressed by the wrong Zionists, nor did he give full support to the Christian nations in Africa (Uganda, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Kenya, Tanzania, etc.) who are standing up to the LGBT and pro-abortion ideology..... Oh, and Mike Johnson did not suggest lifting the ban on Paul Makonda, the great Tanzanian politician and Governor of Dar es Salaam, who is banned from entering the US for his staunch opposition to LGBT and indiscriminate pro-abortion ideology!! so funny too.... so I always telling to you.... we must escape to wrong Cultism... it's a very very dangerous and wrong way.... after than.... Until the moment granted by our Lord Jesus Christ, whether it is this time or tomorrow, we must fight against all false ideologies, defending Orthodox teaching and the real truth!!! our Lord Sacred Heart of Jesus bless you, your family, and all your loved ones with His infinite grace always....Holy Mary, all Angels and Saints.. pray for us... Amen.. take care.. have a great night.. preparing to Persecution time!! show to Mike Johnson's disgusting message...
Mike Johnson: Western nations must reject 'technocratic tyranny,' return to Christian values - LifeSite

Jeffrey AdeMar 1

@Chung Clement Jaeho Do you Tae kwon do? Quin cha na! Anyway, you can see throgh the Zionist christian smoke screen called judeo/christianity. Obviously even without reading the article, Mike Johnson will be advocating a watered down version of fake christianity that will coincide with the Noahide laws. Thank you for your support and unwavering Catholicity! Viva Christo Rey!

Chung Clement JaehoMar 1edited

@Jeffrey Ade thanks for your kind message... Jeffrey... yes!! I strongly hate about this word too.... Judeo Christianity!!! in the past... That term may have been correct in some areas.. but how can we use that term now!! What Judeo-Christian civilization??? jajajajaja!!! If we follow that logic, what becomes of the members of the Christian communities in Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and Armenia who are being persecuted, oppressed, and even murdered by the false Zionists right now??? Lebanon in particular... I would like to pay particular attention to Lebanon!! I hear that Lebanon is the largest Christian country in the Middle East, with the Christian community accounting for over 40%.... This means that when the false Zionists attack Lebanon, a huge number of Christian people will suffer. What Judeo-Christian civilization!! I despise that word now and I am convinced that we must get away from that term... Because the false Zionists hate the Christian community and want to destroy us. If we are angry about the persecution and oppression of the Christian community by the vicious Islamic extremists, then I am convinced that we must also be angry about the persecution and oppression of the Christian community by the false Zionists. This is a fair view!! but these days.. It's really sad that so many people are only upset about the former and ignore the latter. Both are persecutions and oppressions of the same Christian community!! so I always telling to you.... we must escape to wrong Cultism... it's a very very dangerous and wrong way.... after than.... Until the moment granted by our Lord Jesus Christ, whether it is this time or tomorrow, we must fight against all false ideologies, defending Orthodox teaching and the real truth!!! our Lord Sacred Heart of Jesus bless you, your family, and all your loved ones with His infinite grace always....Holy Mary, all Angels and Saints.. pray for us... Amen.. take care.. have a great night.. preparing to Persecution time!!

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Feb 27

Sharing is caring and for those who maintain an illusion of Trumps sanctity and have already canonized him I hope you will begin to see, even though it may be a long road to recovery from trauma based mind control, and your Stockholm syndrome maybe deep, we can do this! Pray the Rosary!

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pmfjiFeb 27

Wow! So many saints on this website. Who’d have thought it?

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Jeffrey AdeFeb 26

@brhenry No Catholic is obligated to choose evil. That is not Catholic Church teaching.

brhenryFeb 26

@SonoftheChurch My brother, you are confusing the standards of a civil leader with that of a Catholic Saint. In the political realm, the choice will always be between the "lesser of evils." Period.

123jussiFeb 26

I guess son of the church doesn't like Trump ! He should take Joy's place !

chris griffinFeb 26

@SonoftheChurch...Thanks, you make some good points, but no Catholic could have voted for Harris. there was no other choice.

Jeffrey AdeFeb 26edited

There was always the teaching of the Catholic Church. No Catholic is obligated to choose the lesser of evils as this is material cooperation with evil. I posted the Catholic Teaching but the Zionist influencers kept bringing up the logical fallacy of false dilemma, just as you did now. No informed Catholic could have voted for Trump either but it seems some did! God bless you!

Chung Clement JaehoFeb 26

@Jeffrey Ade Orthodox Catholic and Christian people are who support Trump, J.D. Vance, and current GOP candidates always say this. The lesser evil is better, you have to choose the lesser evil.... Hahahahahahaha... How many lesser evils have they justified with that statement? I'm pretty sure the lesser evils are no longer lesser evils, they're now great evils... If they want to support Trump, JD Vance, and the current GOP, that's their freedom and I don't blame them... But it's hilarious when they make ridiculous attacks on those of us who criticize Trump, JD Vance, and the current Republican Party, which is another evil... I am sure.. they just want join to another evil's group.... They look like people who have been through domestic violence...they are thinking about it... Violence people will be better off than they are today... it makes the problem much more serious....that is absolutely not the way to solve the problem... Until the moment granted by Lord, whether it is this time or tomorrow, we must fight against all false ideologies, defending Orthodox teaching and the real truth!!! we have to keep on the right path, even if we become a very small minority... always see to your great opinion...make me really happy... Jeffrey... our Lord Sacred Heart of Jesus bless you, your family, and all your loved ones with His infinite grace always....Holy Mary, all Angels and Saints.. pray for us... Amen.. take care.. have a great night... always strong support to you and all correct people!! now.. we must preparing about huge persecution!!

Jeffrey AdeFeb 27

@Chung Clement Jaeho Trauma based mind control, Stockholm syndrome! You got it!

chris griffinFeb 27

@Jeffrey Ade, Chung Clement Jaeho...you have misjudged and are greatly mistaken. The election was binary ie a greater vs. a lesser evil with no other choice other than Trump. A vote for Trump was a vote against k. Harris.

Jeffrey AdeFeb 27

@chris griffin Thank you for your comment. To say it was binary and you had to choose the "lesser' of evils is an anti Catholic statement. The Catholic Church's teaching is crystal clear on the matter. You have chosen to reject the teaching of the Catholic Church and I wonder why? God bless you!

Chung Clement JaehoFeb 27edited

@Jeffrey Ade strong support to your great opinion!! my great online friend, brother Jeffrey!!! yes!!! Lesser evils are just that, lesser evils, and they can never be good!!! Lesser evils accumulate to become greater evils, and Orthodox Catholic and Christian people are who unconditionally support Trump, JD Vance, and the current Republican members are blind to this truth... They refuse to even recognize that their behavior is fostering a huge evil...and I heard about this news.. in US Time.. tommorow morning... JD Vance to Speak At Annual National Catholic Prayer Breakfast... I can already see what he will say... He will say that faith is paramount, that we must stand up to wrong ideologies, but I am sure he will not say a word about the Christian people in Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Armenia who are dying at the hands of misguided Zionists like Vance did last time in Munich, Germany, nor will he offer his full support to the courageous Christian nations of Africa (Uganda, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Kenya, Tanzania, etc.). Nor will it lift the entry ban on Paul Makonda, the brilliant Tanzanian politician and governor of Dar es Salaam, who has been banned from entering the United States for his opposition to LGBTQ and pro-abortion ideology....It's so disgusting how they use faith as a cult, an accessory, an ornament for their support base.... These people are insane... so we must escape to wrong Cultism... it's a very very dangerous and wrong way.... after than.... Until the moment granted by our Lord Jesus Christ, whether it is this time or tomorrow, we must fight against all false ideologies, defending Orthodox teaching and the real truth!!! our Lord Sacred Heart of Jesus bless you, your family, and all your loved ones with His infinite grace always....Holy Mary, all Angels and Saints.. pray for us... Amen.. take care.. have a great night..

chris griffinFeb 27

@Jeffrey Ade, Chung Clement Jaeho...Jeffery and Chung please understand that you are misrepresenting Catholic teaching. There is absolutely no catholic teaching whatsoever to back up your assertion.
Common sense shows that if a choice has to be made between two choices Catholics must choose the lesser evil which Trump was. There were only two choices. Your claim about "crystal clear" and rejecting church teaching are very incorrect.
More specifically Pope John Paul 2 specifically allowed choosing the lesser evil in Evangelium Vitae in1995 regarding abortion between a 100% abortion supporter and a 50% abortion supported. The vote for the 50%er is in effect a vote against the 100%er.

Chung Clement JaehoFeb 28

@chris griffin I have this questions to you.... so, so do you support wrong Zionist killing to Christian People in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Armenia???? do you support to War with Iran????? and what do you think about it??? Trump and J.D. Vance and current Republicans don't support African Christian countries(Uganda, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Kenya, Tanzania at all) that are adamantly opposed to the promotion of LGBT and Indiscrimition abortion..... and they ignore that Paul Makonda, the great Tanzanian statesman and governor of Dar es Salaam, who was banned from entering the United States during Trump's first term, is still banned from entering the United States... do you support it?? I am sure.. you are not to Catholic People!!! just following to wrong Cultism!! so you are a wrong Cultist!!!