1917- Fatima apparitions, 1920- Russa legalized abortion
Fatima did not stop Russia from legalizing abortion and abortion has grown exponentially since then. Abortion has murdered 5 BILLION unborn babies since Fatima. Fatima has not halted the satanic spread and increase of abortion.
As of 2023, 77 countries allow abortion on request. Some notable examples include:
France – Became the first country to enshrine abortion rights in its constitution in 2024
Ireland – Legalized abortion via referendum in 2018
Argentina – Legalized abortion in 2020
Mexico – Several states have legalized abortion since 2021, with federal decriminalization progressing
South Korea – Decriminalized abortion in 2021
Colombia – Legalized abortion up to 24 weeks in 2022
New Zealand – Liberalized abortion laws in 2020
Thailand – Legalized abortion up to 12 weeks in 2021
Fatima never warned about upcoming spread of abortion. I can only assume that Fatima is a false, phony apparition. No phony marian apparition has ever mentioned abortion, never, not even one ever out …More
@chris griffin The statement of the initial post is "that Fatima is a false, phony apparition; no 'phony apparition' has ever mentioned abortion, never, not even one ever out of hundreds of so-called marian apparitions."
I provided proof that there is an alleged apparition that, not only mentioned abortion, but mentioned it numerous times over a series of many years. Whether that apparition is true or "phony" is irrelevant to the fact that it is a) a claimed apparition and b) it mentioned abortion numerous times.
If the Bayside apparition is a real apparition, the initial statement is false.
But even if it is a "phony apparition," the statement is still false: no 'phony apparition' has ever mentioned abortion, never, not even one ever out of hundreds of so-called marian apparitions.
Either way, the opening post is false. The alleged Bayside apparitions, whether true or "phony," mentioned abortion. Numerous times.
@DJRESQ...Thanks for your reply I appreciate it. Nevertheless, I cannot accept the fact that the apparition mentioned abortion when the apparition has been ruled totally corrupt. Obviously I wish it were true but it is not. I very much appreciate your input and hope you continue. Thanks.
@chris griffin Good point! Do you ever think why that is? Or why Bolshevik Russia was the first State to legalize abortion? Or actually what there errors of Russia are, Our Lady warned us about? God bless you!
@Jeffrey Ade...The Fatima warning were about another war and communism, not abortion. Don't you find it unbelievable that Our Lady doesn't care about 5 BILLION abortions. Can anybody imagine the bloodshed! And no apparition since Fatima!
@chris griffin Thank you for your comment! If the church fathers had fulfilled Our Lady of Fatima's requests then there would be no legalized abortion today. I do find it unbelievable that Our Sorrowful Mother would not care about sin and its consequences, abortion included. So since Our Lady of Fatima cares about saving murderers and since She and Her Son paid the price to save the murderers from hell, then obviously Our Lady of Fatima is deeply concerned about abortion also. As I have said before, she condemned the errors of Russia which includes abortion! Simple. God bless you!
I have read the alleged messages from the purported apparitions of Bayside, and they mention abortion numerous times, over a period of many years.
Whether Bayside is authentic is beyond my authority to say, but the purported seer maintained that either Our Lady or Our Lord mentioned abortion to her on the following dates:
May 30, 1971
August 5, 1971
May 10, 1972
December 29, 1973
December 31, 1974
March 18, 1975
July 25, 1975
August 5, 1975
September 6, 1975
September 13, 1975
December 27, 1975
June 5, 1976
June 12, 1976
September 7, 1976
December 28, 1976
February 1, 1977
June 18, 1977
February 10, 1978
March 15, 1978
May 20, 1978
June 2, 1979
September 14, 1979
November 20, 1979
May 30, 1981
August 14, 1981
March 18, 1983
May 28, 1983
April 14, 1984
September 14, 1985
May 17, 1986
June 18, 1986
June 6, 1987
October 1, 1988
June 18, 1990
June 18, 1991
At least 35 times.
So this statement, "No phony marian apparition has ever mentioned abortion, never, not even one ever out of hundreds of so-called marian apparitions," is demonstrably false.
Directive from Heaven - No. 23 - Abortion given …
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Catholic Answers: Does the Church Approve of the Bayside …
The Bayside apparition (“Our Lady of the Roses”) is totally and completely false. A Catholic should ignore it and have nothing to do with it or its literature. The supposed seer, the late Veronica Leuken, issued bizarre revelations and false prophesies that have not come to pass, such as the claim that “the Warning spoken of through the ages will occur in the year 1997.” This Warning—not to be confused with the Three Days of Darkness or the Chastisement that some speak of—”is the worldwide cataclysm predicted by little Jacinta Marto, the youngest of the three child-seers at Fatima.”
She also said Mary told her that test-tube babies do not have souls, a philosophically and theologically impossible proposition, since all living human beings have souls.
Furthermore, the late bishop of the diocese in which Veronica Leuken resided (Bishop John Mugavero) had repeatedly condemned the apparition as a fake. The condemnation remains in force. The full text of Mugavero’s 1986 declaration concerning the “Bayside Movement” can be found at www.ewtn.com.
EWTN
I, the undersigned Diocesan Bishop of Brooklyn, in my role as the legitimate shepherd of this particular Church, wish to confirm the constant position of the Diocese of Brooklyn that a thorough investigation revealed that the alleged "visions of Bayside" completely lacked authenticity.
Declaration Concerning the 'Bayside Movement' | EWTN