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BREAKING & EXCLUSIVE: Bishop Bans Fisher More College from offering Traditional Latin Mass to students Stunning letter gives no reason, simply bans the Mass said daily for last three years at school …More
BREAKING & EXCLUSIVE: Bishop Bans Fisher More College from offering Traditional Latin Mass to students
Stunning letter gives no reason, simply bans the Mass said daily for last three years at school for sake of "your own soul"
Canon Law Centre: Bishop has "unlawfully restricted the rights of the faithful"
The Francis Effect: first the FI, now the youth in America
* Rorate analysis and commentary *
Knights4Christ
Bravo tbswv excellent point. The fact is not even a pope has the authority to ban the Traditional Latin Mass 👍
penitentis
I live in the Ft. Worth diocese and while that doesn't give me any inside info on this story, I'm betting there's much more to this than meets the eye.
yuca2111
Awesome insight tbswv... 😇
tbswv
Not even the pope has the authority to ban the Traditional Latin Mass since this ancient liturgy was codified by Pope St Pius V to be the mass of all times. Any validly ordained Roman Catholic priest can offer the traditional Latin Mass, without permission, as long as he has been trained. Even two modernist popes understood this: JPII and Benedict-Ratzinger. There is also another fallicy floating …More
Not even the pope has the authority to ban the Traditional Latin Mass since this ancient liturgy was codified by Pope St Pius V to be the mass of all times. Any validly ordained Roman Catholic priest can offer the traditional Latin Mass, without permission, as long as he has been trained. Even two modernist popes understood this: JPII and Benedict-Ratzinger. There is also another fallicy floating around about the "Extraordinary Form." The "Extraordinary Form" is the de-facto liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church, not the Novus Ordo. One cannot simply discard the precepts and doctrines taught in the Council of Trent just because it is not suitable for modern man.
Knights4Christ
The real problem is the Bishop is abusing his power. Dr. Bob is correct the Latin Mass does not require permission. The problem is the "Francis effect" is causing more problems because he has time to greet muslims, atheists, buddists, and protestants when the house is on fire. He remains silent ignoring the problem we have with the madness of many Bishops and Cardinal that Francis himself has chosen. 🤨
yuca2111
OK... Francis is Judas Iscariot and you are not my brother!... feel better now? Good!
yuca2111
We need to pray hard yes... scapulars to be seen, many rosaries prayed, reparations, sacrifice, communion and adoration to the the Blessed Sacrament... but also we must speak against this evil, leaving the catholic church would be a SIN even if they are truly pushing us to the SSPX so hard... but we must stand our ground and SPEAK UP! 😡
ignea orationem
What dark times we are truly in, lets pick up our rosaries and keep our scapulars on. This can only come from someone who hates Tradition. How can anyone who calls themselves Catholic, ever try and abolish or restrain the True Mass of the Saints? This is, what it is, a diabolical. Christ have mercy on us all, and let us not fall into traps and temptations that are surely set for us
yuca2111
Oh my God obedience over sacrifice, did they change the scripture now? Didn't you read that the Canon Center said this Bishop is clearly abusing his power? Or are we just one of those who embraces this Judas Iscariot Francis...
LETS PROPAGATE THIS... BROTHER RHEMES IS RIGHT: TWEET, PLACE ON FACEBOOK, IF YOU KNOW A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE TRANSLATE AND PUT I UP, THE BEAUTY OF ORTHODOXY -TRADITION IS …More
Oh my God obedience over sacrifice, did they change the scripture now? Didn't you read that the Canon Center said this Bishop is clearly abusing his power? Or are we just one of those who embraces this Judas Iscariot Francis...

LETS PROPAGATE THIS... BROTHER RHEMES IS RIGHT: TWEET, PLACE ON FACEBOOK, IF YOU KNOW A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE TRANSLATE AND PUT I UP, THE BEAUTY OF ORTHODOXY -TRADITION IS BEING UNDERMINE AND CATHOLICS ARENT DOING AS MUCH EVERYWHERE THAE LATIN MASS IS BEING KILLED AND THIS WASNT AN SSPX THING, ARE WE BLIND... SPEAK UUUUUPPPP FOR TRADITION!!! 😡
sheepette
Petercanisius: I desire mercy, not sacrifice.
How about mercy all around.
charisma
This school is lucky enough to have a written instruction from the bishop. What if the same applies for another diocese where the bishop orally prohibits anything related to the traditional mass (not SSPX related)?
Where can laymen turn to (definitely not to their bishop)?More
This school is lucky enough to have a written instruction from the bishop. What if the same applies for another diocese where the bishop orally prohibits anything related to the traditional mass (not SSPX related)?

Where can laymen turn to (definitely not to their bishop)?
Dr Bobus
1. According to Summorum Pontificum (which is Ecclesiastical Law) it is not necessary that the bishop give permission. Obedience is not merely an act of the laity, it also applies to bishops: They must be obedient to the law of the Church.
2. If, however, Fisher More has been using priests from the SSPX, then that is dumb--leading with the chin.
3. IMHO, anyone who invokes the Judge not phrase …More
1. According to Summorum Pontificum (which is Ecclesiastical Law) it is not necessary that the bishop give permission. Obedience is not merely an act of the laity, it also applies to bishops: They must be obedient to the law of the Church.

2. If, however, Fisher More has been using priests from the SSPX, then that is dumb--leading with the chin.

3. IMHO, anyone who invokes the Judge not phrase (which has become a liberal mantra) should not then judge others.
Knights4Christ
🤐 What is this a dictatorship!!!!!: The Bishop threaten in his MANDATORY LETTER: "Failure to comply with the above-stated norms will result in my withdrawal of Permission to celebrate the Eucharist in your Chapel along with withdrawal of permission to reserve the Blessed Sacrament in the Chapel."
PeterCanisius
Judge not and you shall not be judged. I don't think you've read the letter from the bishop if you curse the bishop as some have. It implies that permission was never granted in the first place by the bishop to have said mass here, it also implies that mass is being said by some priests who do not have the faculties to say the mass under the bishops direction (SSPX I guess? Rightly so, they have …More
Judge not and you shall not be judged. I don't think you've read the letter from the bishop if you curse the bishop as some have. It implies that permission was never granted in the first place by the bishop to have said mass here, it also implies that mass is being said by some priests who do not have the faculties to say the mass under the bishops direction (SSPX I guess? Rightly so, they have chosen to leave the visible confines of the church in my opinion: God says: "What I want is obedience, not sacrifice", that is, God wants people to be obedient to the Pope and his bishops (his appointees) first, even if sacrifices are not to be done "properly", as SSPX member allege - do what God wants, not what you want and you might make it to heaven. SSPX member in my opinion suffer from secularism: they believe more in their own individual selves than the communal body of Christ). It is the bishops right and duty under these circumstances to protect the beauty and integrity of the mass by taking away the eucharist if it being abused.

If you are SSPX, convert and come back to God. Be obedient, putting God first, rather than yourself and your own understanding of the mass, even if you are right in saying the mass is "better" under the extraordinary form.
rhemes1582
This is disgraceful. Pray that the Bishop see's the error in his letter, and while we do that consider this.
CALL TO ACTION: Please, dear readers, blog about this grave injustice. Email this to your families and friends. Tweet it on Twitter, including retweeting our Tweets which you will see on the right-hand side of this page. Send it to the media. We must do everything in our power to spread the …More
This is disgraceful. Pray that the Bishop see's the error in his letter, and while we do that consider this.

CALL TO ACTION: Please, dear readers, blog about this grave injustice. Email this to your families and friends. Tweet it on Twitter, including retweeting our Tweets which you will see on the right-hand side of this page. Send it to the media. We must do everything in our power to spread the word and help this school and students regain their God-given patrimony. Don't think for a second this starts and stops with this college. If we don't act now, we will surely regret it later.

MEDIA: for your reporting purposes, you may accurately refer to Rorate Caeli as the most-read international traditional Catholic blog on the Internet.
yuca2111
The Iniquity in our Church knows no bounderies, today we have seen the true face of what this regime of EVIL has, no latin mass for the good of a soul, have they gone mad? The Francis effect has come to stay for sure, in France: no latin in a latin mass and the scripture given by people and you can't face God and you have to give your back to the community, Fisher more no latin mass, Franciscans of …More
The Iniquity in our Church knows no bounderies, today we have seen the true face of what this regime of EVIL has, no latin mass for the good of a soul, have they gone mad? The Francis effect has come to stay for sure, in France: no latin in a latin mass and the scripture given by people and you can't face God and you have to give your back to the community, Fisher more no latin mass, Franciscans of the immaculate: make them taste hell! but NOOO orthodoxy is NOT UNDER ATTACK and Francis is a gentle and holy soul...WHO DOESN'T KNOW LATIN!!! Mocking people who gave him 3,500 rosaries and still people are BLIND!!! even here iin Gloria who embraces orthodoxy... 😇