Let me just riff here for a second... I don't understand this post. Modesty cannot be learned from Moslems. Obedience and submission can however, and this is perhaps a good; in as far as God can draw out the good from that which is not intended. Mary will teach you modesty. Joseph will teach you modesty. Christ will teach you modesty. Do not be decieved. Look deeper. Look historically. History is biographical. The one true holy, catholic and apostolic faith is to be clinged to until ones' end. Moslems need conversion. If one can discuss Christ, his Church, personal salvation with a Moslem, it's good. But you've got your work cut out for you. Islam is a scourge to Catholicism and on mankind. Catholicism is it's opposite, but this is not to say it's two sides of the same coin. We believe Mohammed was not talking to Gabriel, but an angel of darkness. And that's not meant to insult Moslems. Culturally, at least in America, they are a laragely 'cleaner operation' than our own, at least in appearances. This is unsurprising. We are a corrupted culture, both within the Church and outside it. Overwhelmingly, we earned it. As Dr. Bill Marre of happy memory was wont to say, "we were ready to be corrupted". An corrupted we were. Corrupted we are. Modesty is a witness to this corruption. Just as Moslem modesty is a witness to their obedience and submission. Moslems are slaves. Catholics are not slaves, but kin. Cain and Able are kin. There's much more to say, but think about it...