Well this is vespers and not a mass so no once can state that this service is invalid..it is good for ecumenical celebrations. In 1989 when the Pope JPII visited Sweden and the Scandinavian countries a ecumenical vesper was celebrated in this cathedral with the arch bishop of the Church of Sweden (and also the arch bishop of the Finnish lutheran church).

Nice to hear you like the music.

Rhemes1582 I thank you for praying for me. I will pray for you too. People pray too little today for each others and for good causes. What I have given is the lutheran position today, which I think I know better than you do. That does not mean that I have that position. How can you know that I will not have my confirmation and convert to the catholic church tomorrow?! Do not judge and ye will not be judged yourself. That is something to consider.

Dear Reesorville I thank you for your kind words of wisdom. I do go to catholic masses as well on regular basis. There it is a very kind and welcoming athmosphere, a quite different approach to some of the people here. Also, if people do have different opinions, it is not necessary and a good think to be aggressive towards each other. That is not Christian. God bless you too!

A comment to Rhemes1582. What Luther said about The Pope is of no concern today, and besides, it was political rhetorics.

About the sacrifice of the mass that is not a dogma in Lutheran theology like it is not in the orthodox church but they indeed believe that the eucharist is a reciprocal sacrifice which is carried out, the one and only.

Well I do not know how conservative this is just that it is catholic (and not SSPX?!!). I was not the first to publish lutheran liturgy here. And I maintain that also conservative people should be able to express themselves in a friendly manner.

I am posting some roman catholic videos too by the way.

Greetings roman catholic friends. I decide what will be left here so behave respectful and do not preach, it is better with a gentlemen's discussion. It is also not interesting for me to know what Methodists or protestants of other denonimations might believe as they are not Lutherans.

In general; Martin Luther wrote many things and if anyone think that his writings has the same value as the Holy Bible it is wrong. Many things he said was due to the political situation and against the political ambitions the Church had then but not now, for example the Pope being Antichrist. No sound person would think that now. He reacted against some misconditions but overreacted in some respects, like Monastic life. I am not so sure Martin Luther would have been negative to the lutheran Monastic life today and how the wows are given.

Reesorville, the Pope is the most important Christian person on earth and the most important bishop, that I hope all Lutherans agree on. I also believe that is what the Ortodox, which are real churches according to catholic doctrine, believe.

Revthrees21 I am not going to argue with you about homosexual pastors (who do not live in celibacy), there at such problems also in other churches like the Old Catholic, Episcopalian etc and that is of course sad and wrong. I would not go to that church and receive the holy communion from that pastor - but the main reason that he is a pastor and not a priest. (If he was a priest I would maybe not done it anyway if I had been aware of it).

There is no paradox and monastic life is totally acceptable with the Lutheran doctrine as it is interpreted.

www.svenskakyrkan.se/klostren/OSTANENG.htm

This video is actually mine, from You tube. Anyway, it shows true lutheran worship. The Roman catholic position that our bishops and priests and deacons are not valid and therefore not the mass is a well known position of the Catholic church in communion with the bishop of Rome.

Anyway, the position of the Catholic church in communion with the bishop of Rome is hardly that it is very sad that our priests dress like they have done since the Reformation, and also not that the liturgy of our mass, though invalid, is very similar to the Novus Ordo mass, on the contrary. Just ask preacher of the Papal household, P Rainero Cantalamessa OFMCap about it..