Traditionalist Institute of Christ the King and Bishop Michael Campbell interpret Catechism and Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS.I do not make …

September 27, 2017 Traditionalist Institute of Christ the King and Bishop Michael Campbell interpret Catechism and Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS.I do not make this mistake from Gloria TVMore
September 27, 2017
Traditionalist Institute of Christ the King and Bishop Michael Campbell interpret Catechism and Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS.I do not make this mistake
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These traditionalists interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). I do not make this mistake.
HERE IS THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
“There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)
“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (
Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.) “The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and …More

Amoris Laetitia supports a mortal sin in morals and the 63 scholars like the two popes, support a mortal sin of faith

The 63 scholars say Pope Francis is supporting heresy but they do not state that he is a heretic and so is automatically excommunicated.They cannot.Since they themselves are in first class heresy on …More
The 63 scholars say Pope Francis is supporting heresy but they do not state that he is a heretic and so is automatically excommunicated.They cannot.Since they themselves are in first class heresy on the salvation issue.
They all do not approve philosophical subjectivism in the interpretation of moral theology and Amoris Laeitita but they approve it in the interpretation of salvation theology for example, invisible for us baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are judged as being visible cases.Then they infer that BOD, BOB and I.I are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).They become examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.
So all of them accept invisible and unknown people as being exceptions to Feeneyite EENS but they do not accept (correctly) Amoris Laeititia suggesting we can judge when a couple living in mortal sin is not a mortal sin (Veritatis Splendor) and when particular cases of the …More

There is a mistake in Vatican Council II : two popes need to be shown that in principle hypothetical cases are not exceptions to EENS

SEPTEMBER 25, 2017 There is a mistake in Vatican Council II : two popes need to be shown that in principle hypothetical cases are not exceptions to EENS Image result for Photo Pope Francis and Benedict …More
SEPTEMBER 25, 2017
There is a mistake in Vatican Council II : two popes need to be shown that in principle hypothetical cases are not exceptions to EENS
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There is a mistake in Vatican Council II.However in spite of the mistake the Council can be interpreted in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and the Syllabus of Errors.
MISTAKE IN PRINCIPLE AT VATICAN COUNCIL II
The mistake which they made was to assume in principle that hypothetical cases were not hypothetical but explicit and objective people.It was further assumed in principle that these invisible cases which were allegedly visible were examples of salvation outside the Church.Non Catholics saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
IN THE MIND OF CARDINAL CUSHING AND ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE
In the mind of Cardinal Cushing and Archbishop Lefebvre at Vatican Council II invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism …More

Due papi bisogno correggere l'errore oggettivo nella teologia della salvezza che non e l'insegnamento dello Spirito Santo e quindi non è magistero

SEPTEMBER 24, 2017 Due papi bisogno correggere l'errore oggettivo nella teologia della salvezza che non e l'insegnamento dello Spirito Santo e quindi non è magistero Due papi bisogno correggere l'errore …More
SEPTEMBER 24, 2017
Due papi bisogno correggere l'errore oggettivo nella teologia della salvezza che non e l'insegnamento dello Spirito Santo e quindi non è magistero
Due papi bisogno correggere l'errore oggettivo nella teologia della salvezza che non e l'insegnamento dello Spirito Santo e quindi non è magistero.
I due papi devono essere mostrati. Qualcuno deve spiegarlo a loro. Deve essere detto che le possibilità teoriche non possono essere eccezioni al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus nel 2017. Ciò modifica l'interpretazione del Concilio Vaticano II.
Il Concilio Vaticano allora non è più una rottura con la vecchia ecclesiologia. Sul quella exclusivista ecclesiologia dipendeva un ecumenismo di ritorno e la proclamazione del Regno Sociale di Cristo Re sul tutti leglislazione politica. I due viventi papi devono correggere l'errore oggettivo nella teologia della salvezza che non può essere l'insegnamento lo Spirito Santo e quindi non può essere magistero.
LE POSSIBILITÀ TEORICHE SONO …More

Two popes need to correct the objective error in salvation theology which cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit and so is not magisterial

SEPTEMBER 24, 2017 Two popes need to correct the objective error in salvation theology which cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit and so is not magisterial The two popes need to be shown that …More
SEPTEMBER 24, 2017
Two popes need to correct the objective error in salvation theology which cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit and so is not magisterial
The two popes need to be shown that theoretical possibilities cannot be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in 2017 and this changes the interpretation of Vatican Council II. The Council is then no more a rupture with the old ecclesiology upon which depended an ecumenism of returm and the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King.The two living popes need to correct the objective error in salvation theology which cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit and so cannot be magisterial.
THEORETICAL POSSIBILITIES ARE SPECULATION
Possibilities are not objective and known cases in 2017. So possibilities are not exceptions to the traditional teaching on all needing to be inocorporated into the Church as members for salvation.
I cannot say that it is possible that there was a baptism of desire case this year …More

The Catholic Church guided by the Holy Spirit teaches that all non Catholics in 2017 need to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation.This …

The Catholic Church guided by the Holy Spirit teaches that all non Catholics need to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation.This is not just a personal view. This the teaching of …More
The Catholic Church guided by the Holy Spirit teaches that all non Catholics need to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation.This is not just a personal view. This the teaching of Vatican Council II when it is interpreted rationally.
Yet the Vatican and professors of philosophy and theology are unable to teach that all non Catholics need to be formal members of the Church, with faith and baptism to avoid Hell.Since they are concerned about their careers and lifestyle.
This week in Catechism classes they are teaching heresy, innovation and irrationality approved by the Left.

Here are the magisterial texts which I support.I affirm them.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, …More
Lionel L. Andrades
SEPTEMBER 23, 2017 The Catholic Church guided by the Holy Spirit teaches that all non Catholics in 2017 need to be incorporated into the Church as …More
SEPTEMBER 23, 2017
The Catholic Church guided by the Holy Spirit teaches that all non Catholics in 2017 need to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation.This is Vatican Council II and the Catechism : present popes are denying this
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Those who accept the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 make Vatican Council II a rupture with Tradition :popes can avoid this

SEPTEMBER 22, 2017 Those who accept the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 make Vatican Council II a rupture with Tradition :popes can avoid this E-mail correspondence Thank you for this clear explanation …More
SEPTEMBER 22, 2017
Those who accept the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 make Vatican Council II a rupture with Tradition :popes can avoid this
E-mail correspondence
Thank you for this clear explanation. I just re-read the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office.. I do not find any affirmation in this Letter of known visible cases of Non-Catholics being saved outside of visible entry into the Catholic Church.
Lionel:
Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also that infallible statement by which we are taught that there is no salvation outside the Church.-Letter of the Holy Office 1949
This is a positive line it affirms traditional EENS and calls it an infallible statement.So far so good.
Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member -Letter of the Holy Office 1949 Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 says it is always required that one be …More

If any one says that invisible people are visible in general at the same time on earth with reference to EENS he has contradicted the Principle of Non …

September 22, 2017 If any one says that invisible people are visible in general at the same time on earth with reference to EENS he has contradicted the Principle of Non Contradiction : error of popes …More
September 22, 2017
If any one says that invisible people are visible in general at the same time on earth with reference to EENS he has contradicted the Principle of Non Contradiction : error of popes from Pius XII to Francis
E-mail correspondence
Dear XYZ,
Thank you for your note. I still think that Lionel is setting up a false problem with his language of visible exceptions to EENS.
Lionel:
When XYZ cannot affirm Feeneyite EENS like me, since BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions ( according to the 1949 Letter, Vatican Council II text for him and Pope Benedict XVI last year in the Avvenire interview ) then he is inferring , implying ,suggesting that there are visible and known people saved outside the Church.
I am simply pointing it out.
___________________________________ Non-Christians are not visible members of the Catholic Church according to Vatican II. Lionel: No per se. ___________________________________ Lumen gentium, 16 speaks of these non-Christians as being ordered, directed,…More

President Trump needs to address discrimination of Catholic students : professors agree

President Donald Trump needs to address the issue of discrimination against Catholic students by their own leftist bishops in the USA. An American student cannot enter a Catholic seminary if he does …More
President Donald Trump needs to address the issue of discrimination against Catholic students by their own leftist bishops in the USA. An American student cannot enter a Catholic seminary if he does not affirm an irrationality. The faculty have to affice this irrationality to be able to teach. It is the same with priests.
I sent these following blog posts to all the professors of the Theological College D.C and the Catholic University of America.No one has denied what I have written.

No seminarian is admitted at the Theological College D.C who does not indicate that invisible for us baptism of desire etc are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) : faculty-priests have to repeat the lie too
USCCB, EWTN deceptively contradict Jesus' teachings
No seminarian is admitted at the Theological College D.C who does not indicate that invisible for us baptism of desire etc are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) : faculty-priests have to …
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Voice of the Family speakers dissent on the salvation issue are surprised with dissent on morals

September 20, 2017 Voice of the Family speakers dissent on the salvation issue are surprised with dissent on morals When for the speakers dissent on the salvation issue is permissable then why are they …More
September 20, 2017
Voice of the Family speakers dissent on the salvation issue are surprised with dissent on morals
When for the speakers dissent on the salvation issue is permissable then why are they surprised with dissent by others on the moral issue.
When a few years back I asked John Smeaton for his opinion on the issue of exclusive salvation in the Church he said that the did not know enough on this subject.Scott Hahn will probably say the same thing.
When I mentioned to Fr. Lanzetta that Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and there are no known exceptions to EENS mentioned in the Council, since LG 16 etc refer to invisible and unknown people,he was confused. This was the first time some one spoke about this,even though he has written books on Vatican Council II.
Chris Ferrara who is not a speaker at this conference and will be one of the speakers at the Catholic Identity Conference also in October wrote his book 'The Great Facade …More

Ann Barnhardt, Chris Ferrara's reasoning seem rational but their premises and so inferences are wrong

Ann Barnhardt writes that a person could die at the last moment and be saved.Sorry Feeneyite. Move over Fr. Leonard Feeney you are wrong, she said sometime back. Otherwise she mentions thinking clearly …More
Ann Barnhardt writes that a person could die at the last moment and be saved.Sorry Feeneyite. Move over Fr. Leonard Feeney you are wrong, she said sometime back.
Otherwise she mentions thinking clearly and keeping the premises correct on her blog.
She does not know any one on earth who was on the way to Hell but this person, during the last breath comes back to God and so is saved .Yet she mentions this with reference to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS.
The dogma EENS (Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 etc) says all need to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of Hell.There were no exceptions for the Church Councils.How can Ann's theoretical case be an exception to the dogma EENS?
Her premise is that this person who came back to Christ at the last breathe and asked for forgiveness was a visible and known person.Then her conclusion is that this invisible case which was visible for her was an exception to Feeneyite EENS.
This is the reasoning of her …More

Traditionalists cannot understand me since they cannot make the switch away from what Archbishop Marcel Lefebre taught them

Many traditionalists cannot understand me since they cannot make the switch away from Archbishop Marcel Lefebre taught . Here are some of the major errors in their thinking. 1.For me the baptism of …More
Many traditionalists cannot understand me since they cannot make the switch away from Archbishop Marcel Lefebre taught .
Here are some of the major errors in their thinking.

1.For me the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) refer to invisible and unknown people. So they cannot be explicit execeptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).This is a crucial point. For all of them BOD, BOB and I.I refer to visible cases. This is their inference.
When you talk to them directly of course they will say that there are no visible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I.Yet at the same time they will say that BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS, this is magisterial since Pope Pius XII and Archbishop Lefebvre taught this.
Usually this is a dead end.For many of them there is no way they can conceive of BOD, BOB and I.I being invisible and unknown.Usually it is the end of the discussion here.
2.For me since BOD,BOB and I.I are invisible, so, when …More

No seminarian is admitted at the Theological College D.C who does not indicate that invisible for us baptism of desire etc are visible exceptions to …

SEPTEMBER 18, 2017 No seminarian is admitted at the Theological College D.C who does not indicate that invisible for us baptism of desire etc are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla …More
SEPTEMBER 18, 2017
No seminarian is admitted at the Theological College D.C who does not indicate that invisible for us baptism of desire etc are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) : faculty-priests have to repeat the lie too
It's the same story at the Theological College,the national Roman Catholic diocesan seminary located in Washington, D.C. The seminary is affiliated with The Catholic University of America. The seminary is owned and administered by priests of the Society of Saint-Sulpice.TC seminarians receive their academic formation at The Catholic University of America.
Every one at the university has to affirm an irrationality to stay on board. Adults have to lie.This should be investigated by the U.S Justice Department.
A representative from the seminary community is also a member of CUA’s School of Theology and Religious Studies Students’ Association, a student committee of the university that provides a forum for student representation and …More

USCCB, EWTN deceptively contradict Jesus' teachings

Jesus says all need the baptism of water in the only community he founded, for salvation.It was the Catholic Church. The Early Christians were Catholics. Jesus founded only one Church in which he wanted …More
Jesus says all need the baptism of water in the only community he founded, for salvation.It was the Catholic Church. The Early Christians were Catholics. Jesus founded only one Church in which he wanted all people to be baptised for salvation.The US Bishops' Conference(USCCB) and the Eternal Word Television Network (EWTN) which the USCCB controls states otherwise. They teach that every one does not need to be a member of the Church for salvation since invisible baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blod(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions to Jesus' teachings in John 3:5.
So young Americans cannot be admitted to, for example, at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, if they do not proclaim for all, that invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are visible exceptions to Jesus' teaching in John 3:5, in 2017.
The Rector and faculty at the Sacred Heart Seminary do not deny this.
Like the students even the professors of theology and philosophy have to affirm …More

U.S Attorney General must take into account the deception at EWTN and the USCCB

SEPTEMBER 17, 2017 U.S Attorney General must take into account the deception at EWTN by the USCCB bishops The United States Attorney General and the House Ethics Committee must take into account the …More
SEPTEMBER 17, 2017
U.S Attorney General must take into account the deception at EWTN by the USCCB bishops
The United States Attorney General and the House Ethics Committee must take into account the deception at Eternal Word Television Network(EWTN) which is being sustained by the United States Bishops Conference(USCCB).It is the deceptive policy of the USCCB and EWTN to project a false image of Catholic teachings on salvation.So they tell Catholics and people in general that there are known exceptions to the traditional exclusivist understanding of salvation in the Catholic Church.
This allows them to reject American students who want to to be seminarians at Catholic seminaries who do not follow along with the deception.Also priests who do not support this deception are not allowed to remain priests.
The deception is unethical and it should be stopped. The USCCB infer that invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are…More

Bishops Fellay, Williamson and Sanborn know that references to hypothetical cases in the Catechism and Vatican Council II are not exceptions to EENS :…

SEPTEMBER 17, 2017 Bishops Fellay, Williamson and Sanborn know that references to hypothetical cases in the Catechism and Vatican Council II are not exceptions to EENS : affect marriage, ecumenism and …More
SEPTEMBER 17, 2017
Bishops Fellay, Williamson and Sanborn know that references to hypothetical cases in the Catechism and Vatican Council II are not exceptions to EENS : affect marriage, ecumenism and politics in Europe
Bishops Bernard Fellay, Richard Williamson and Donald Sanborn know that they have been interpreting hypothetical cases in the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1 and Vatican Council II 2 as being concrete and known exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So why don't they admit this error in public?
They also know that if they admit that hypothetical cases mentioned in Vatican Council II, are hypothetical only, the interpretation of the Council is traditional. So why don't they say that the Council is traditional?

Why don't these bishops who have had their religious formation under Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, admit that they were wrong all these many years?
Instead they are still maintaining the deception.
If they …More

Cardinal Sarah has not affirmed the Social Reign of Christ the King based on the old ecclesiology : since he will not proclaim Feeneyite EENS at Mass

SEPTEMBER 17, 2017 Cardinal Sarah has not affirmed the Social Reign of Christ the King based on the old ecclesiology : since he will not proclaim Feeneyite EENS at Mass No one has asked Cardinal Robert …More
SEPTEMBER 17, 2017
Cardinal Sarah has not affirmed the Social Reign of Christ the King based on the old ecclesiology : since he will not proclaim Feeneyite EENS at Mass
No one has asked Cardinal Robert Sarah to affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King based on the old liturgy.If he would affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Feeneyite version, then he could proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King and the non separation of Church and state, as did the missionaries during Mass in the 16th century.
He does not affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS since he makes the same mistake as the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr.Leonard Feeney. The Letter assumed physically invisiblecases of the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS.So for him too BOD, BOB and I.I …More

Journalists and bloggers spare Cardinal Sarah : no difficult questions

SEPTEMBER 16, 2017 Journalists and bloggers spare Cardinal Sarah : no difficult questions Journalists and bloggers did not put the right questions to Cardinal Robert Sarah at the event this week at …More
SEPTEMBER 16, 2017
Journalists and bloggers spare Cardinal Sarah : no difficult questions
Journalists and bloggers did not put the right questions to Cardinal Robert Sarah at the event this week at the Angelicum University in Rome.Edward Pentin, Fr. Zuhlsdorf and others did not say :-
1."Your Eminence, there is blogger who saysinvisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance (I.I) are not visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).So Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church for him are not a rupture with the past ecclesiology of the Mass.What have you to say about this?
2.He also says that we do not know of any practical exceptions to the dogma EENS,this year.We cannot meet or see any one saved outside the Church i.e without faith and the baptism of water.So for him there is no change in the ecclesiology of the Church.It is the same as when the missionaries in the 16th offered Mass in Latin.However …More

It is with an irrational and heretical ecclesiology that Cardinal Sarah offers Holy Mass and is approved by the liberal popes and the Left

Cardinal Robert Sarah interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) so his address at the Angelicum this week was limited.1 For him …More
Cardinal Robert Sarah interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) so his address at the Angelicum this week was limited.1 For him hypothetical cases are objective in the present times. This is his inference when he does not affirm the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS. For him hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. So at the Angelicum he spoke about Mission but proclaimed a Christology without the necessity of being a formal member of the Church. This was a rupture with the ecclesiology of the Latin and Greek Mass of the past. The cardinal is a liberal on this issue and offers Mass like the two living, liberal popes.
The following hypothetical references in the Catechism would be explicit and objective exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS …More

Cardinal Sarah affirms a vague Christology without the necessity of being a member of the Catholic Church for salvation : this is a rupture with the …

September 16, 2017 Cardinal Sarah affirms a vague Christology without the necessity of being a member of the Catholic Church for salvation : this is a rupture with the past ecclesiology of the Greek …More
September 16, 2017
Cardinal Sarah affirms a vague Christology without the necessity of being a member of the Catholic Church for salvation : this is a rupture with the past ecclesiology of the Greek and Latin Mass
Cardinal Sarah: "You Are Not 'Traditionalists'"
Addressing a conference on the Latin Mass at the Angelicum in Rome on Thursday, Cardinal Robert Sarah told those in the audience to stop calling themselves “traditionalists,” and to stop allowing …
The Society of St.Pius X(SSPX) and the sedevacantists are traditionalists since they interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise and then reject the conclusion which is a rupture with Tradition.So they reject Vatican Council II and admit it frankly.
Cardinal Sarah and the two living popes and the Vatican Curia also interpret Vatican Council II, assuming all hypothetical cases are visible examples of salvation outside the Church, even though they do not personally know of any case. So Vatican Council II is a break with the dogma …
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