Berlin: Pope Gives Communion in the Hand

Photo ~ Spanish Queen Sofia receiving Holy Communion in the hand, while standing over the kneeler The President of the Bundestag, the German parliament, receives communion in the hand from the pope.More
Photo ~ Spanish Queen Sofia receiving Holy Communion in the hand, while standing over the kneeler
The President of the Bundestag, the German parliament, receives communion in the hand from the pope.
Pope Does Not Object to Communion in the Hand
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Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling will be norm at papal liturgies
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.
Res ipsa loquitur.
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Clearly, what occured in Spain and again last week in Germany must not have been papal liturgies. If …More
Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling will be norm at papal liturgies

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

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Clearly, what occured in Spain and again last week in Germany must not have been papal liturgies. If they had been papal liturgies then surely those receiving the Eucharist would have received on the tongue while kneeling.

Evidently that was NOT the pope in the photos or video. Had it been the pope, then those receiving the Eucharist would have been receiving on the tongue while kneeling as is the norm in papal liturgies.

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"Ad Hominem Abusive" ... 👌
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"Ad Hominem Abusive" ... 👌

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Hi SBpfu - Indeed..... 😇
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Logical Fallacy: Personal Attack
Also Known as: Ad Hominem Abusive.
A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes demeaning or insulting remarks for actual evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims.
This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself.
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Logical Fallacy: Personal Attack

Also Known as: Ad Hominem Abusive.

A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes demeaning or insulting remarks for actual evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims.

This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself.

The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim.

www.nizkor.org/…/personal-attack…

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ST. SIXTUS I (115-125). Prohibited the faithful from even touching the Sacred Vessels: "Statutum est ut sacra vasa non ab aliis quam a sacratis Dominoque dicatis contrectentur hominibus..." [It has been decreed that the Sacred Vessels are not to be handled by others than by those consecrated and dedicated to the Lord.]
POPE ST. EUTYCHIAN (275-283). Forbade the faithful from taking the Sacred Host …
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ST. SIXTUS I (115-125). Prohibited the faithful from even touching the Sacred Vessels: "Statutum est ut sacra vasa non ab aliis quam a sacratis Dominoque dicatis contrectentur hominibus..." [It has been decreed that the Sacred Vessels are not to be handled by others than by those consecrated and dedicated to the Lord.]

POPE ST. EUTYCHIAN (275-283). Forbade the faithful from taking the Sacred Host in their hand.


ST. BASIL THE GREAT, DOCTOR OF THE CHURCH (330-379). "The right to receive Holy Communion in the hand is permitted only in time of persecution." St. Basil considered Communion in the hand so irregular that he did not hesitate to consider it a grave fault.

POPE LEO I THE GREAT (440-461). Energetically defended and required faithful obedience to the practice of administering Holy Communion on the tongue of the faithful.

SIXTH ECUMENICAL COUNCIL, AT CONSTANTINOPLE (680-681). Forbade the faithful to take the Sacred Host in their hand, threatening transgressors with excommunication.

ST. THOMAS AQUINAS, DOCTOR OF THE CHURCH (1225-1274) "Out of reverence toward this Sacrament [the Holy Eucharist], nothing touches it, but what is consecrated, and likewise the priest's hands, for touching this sacrament."

COUNCIL OF TRENT (1545-1565) "The fact that only the priest gives Holy Communion with his consecrated hands is an Apostolic Tradition."

POPE PAUL VI (1963-1978). "This method [on the tongue] must be retained." (Apostolic Epistle "Memoriale Domini")

POPE JOHN PAUL II (1978-2005). "To touch the Sacred Species and to distribute them with their own hands is a privilege of the ordained. (Dominicae Cenae, sec. 11)

"It is not permitted that the faithful should themselves pick up the consecrated bread and the sacred chalice, still less that they should hand them from one to another." (Inaestimabile Donum, April 17, 1980, sec. 9)
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@Gregory - Greetings Greg! 🤗 I think you could NOT have articulated it any better. Well done that man, thanks! 🙂
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How often do people have to be reminded of the horrendous abuses that have and still do take place since communion in the hand started? From finding consecrated Hosts in bathrooms, under pews, in pockets of people, and walking out with Our Lord in the Eucharist only to be SOLD for satanic masses.
This surely isn't new news for the Holy Father.
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How often do people have to be reminded of the horrendous abuses that have and still do take place since communion in the hand started? From finding consecrated Hosts in bathrooms, under pews, in pockets of people, and walking out with Our Lord in the Eucharist only to be SOLD for satanic masses.
This surely isn't new news for the Holy Father.

where did communion in the hand come from since it is nowhere proposed or even mentioned in the documents of Vatican II?

Why did it still come about on a worldwide scale even after Pope Paul VI in the 1969 letter to the Bishops,Memoriale Domini stated "This method, 'on the tongue' must be retained?

If it is supposed to be "optional", why are the little children in most parochial schools taught no other way than receiving in the hand as "this is the way it is done"?

Is it possible there may be forces at work to undermine the priesthood?

Is it possible there may be forces at work to Protestantize the Catholic Church?

Is it possible there may be forces at work to destroy the Catholic Church?

Are Catholic authorities unaware of Saint Thomas Aquinas' teaching that only the consecrated (hands of the priest) should touch the consecrated (Sacred Host)? Summa Pt. III, Q. 82 ART #3

Are Church authorities unaware that Protestant denominations beginning with Martin Luther in the 16th century re-introduced Communion in the hand to manifest their belief once and for all that there is no such thing as Transubstantiation and Holy Orders, and the bread used during services is just ordinary bread, and the minister is just an ordinary man with no God-given power to consecrate?

Are Catholic authorities unaware that during ritualistic Satan worship, there must be a consecrated Host for the diabolical black mass, where It is profaned in the most horrendous and immoral way possible?

Are Catholic authorities unaware that the introduction of Communion in the hand, and the "anyone can handle It" attitude easily accomodates those who wish to acquire It for evil purposes? Do they care?


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Rorate Caeli
"Reform of the Reform" Apparently Put on Hold
Of course, in America, Cardinal Wuerl sees no problem giving the Blessed Sacrament to Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden or other rabidly pro-abortion politicians, so at least the modern Church is consistent in its standards, or complete lack thereof.
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"Reform of the Reform" Apparently Put on Hold

Of course, in America, Cardinal Wuerl sees no problem giving the Blessed Sacrament to Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden or other rabidly pro-abortion politicians, so at least the modern Church is consistent in its standards, or complete lack thereof.

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Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling will be norm at papal liturgies
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.
Res ipsa loquitur.
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Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling will be norm at papal liturgies

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

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Holy Cannoli
Correction: That was not Christian Wulff who received Communion in the hand in this video. It was the President of Bundestag who stepped on the Pope's cassock a day earlier and who has publicly lobbied Germany's bishops against the marriage ban for priests.
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Rope:
An amaing display of Papalotry (read: Pope worship) at work. The blind literally leading the blind.
Very few non-catholcs will ever take Catholics or the Catholic Church seriously when an obvious contradiciton of facts such as what occured in Spain and Germany is manifested and the response from the "do gooders" is to simply circle the wagons and act as if it doesn't really matter.
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Rope:

An amaing display of Papalotry (read: Pope worship) at work. The blind literally leading the blind.

Very few non-catholcs will ever take Catholics or the Catholic Church seriously when an obvious contradiciton of facts such as what occured in Spain and Germany is manifested and the response from the "do gooders" is to simply circle the wagons and act as if it doesn't really matter.

By the way, the man receiving in the hand is German President Christian Wulff who openly supports "homosexual marriage." I'm not going to get into Canon 915, but I wonder what will be the message to bishops around the world who will site this incident as an example of why they too can give the Eucharist to Catholic pols who publicly dissent from Catholic doctrine?

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For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgement to himself, not discerning the body of Christ. (1Cor 11:29)
There are some sad faces behind the pope: maybe because she is receiving the King of Kings in her own hands and becomes her own 'minister' of the Eucharist?
A kneeler is placed before her, but she still stands. Surely she had to have learned what the Vatican has …
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For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgement to himself, not discerning the body of Christ. (1Cor 11:29)

There are some sad faces behind the pope: maybe because she is receiving the King of Kings in her own hands and becomes her own 'minister' of the Eucharist?

A kneeler is placed before her, but she still stands. Surely she had to have learned what the Vatican has stated over and over about the Holy Father wanting the faithful to receive Our Lord Kneeling and on the Tongue Only.

Sad indeed. And what happens to any crumbs (Our Lord) that very possibly remained on her hands, or fell upon the ground? Truly Sad!

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Who to believe?
My lying eyes or the musings of those sad victims -- cursed with inferior intellects -- who suffer from Papalotry (read: Pope worship)?
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Who to believe?

My lying eyes or the musings of those sad victims -- cursed with inferior intellects -- who suffer from Papalotry (read: Pope worship)?

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POPE-COMMUNION Jun-26-2008 (610 words) xxxi
Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling will be norm at papal liturgies
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.
Res ipsa loquitur.
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POPE-COMMUNION Jun-26-2008 (610 words) xxxi

Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling will be norm at papal liturgies

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Receiving the Eucharist on the tongue while kneeling before the pope will become the norm at papal liturgies, said the Vatican's liturgist.

Res ipsa loquitur.

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A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes demeaning or insulting remarks (even when expressed with such niceities as "I don't mean to offend but") for actual evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims.
This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself.
The truth value of a claim is independent …More
A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes demeaning or insulting remarks (even when expressed with such niceities as "I don't mean to offend but") for actual evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims.

This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself.

The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim.

After all, no matter how repugnant an individual might be, he or she can still make true claims.

www.nizkor.org/…/personal-attack…

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@tbswv Without wanting to be offensive to you, I have to say that your comments about the Holy Father are bordering on the disrespectful. Are you suggesting that we, the laity, know better than the Supreme Pontiff of God's Church on Earth and can do a better job at restoring and preserving our Catholic Tradition? Remember that Christ founded His Church on the Rock and Benedict is Peter today ... he …More
@tbswv Without wanting to be offensive to you, I have to say that your comments about the Holy Father are bordering on the disrespectful. Are you suggesting that we, the laity, know better than the Supreme Pontiff of God's Church on Earth and can do a better job at restoring and preserving our Catholic Tradition? Remember that Christ founded His Church on the Rock and Benedict is Peter today ... he, and he alone under Christ, is the Rock. We as faithful Catholics should respect, revere and obey him, support him with our prayers and defend him from his enemies. Otherwise we might as well be protestants or orthodox ... and look at the sorry mess they are in!!!
Christus vincit Christus regnat Christus imperat
Viva il Papa!
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You will know them by their fruits. Talk is cheap. If the Holy Father wishes for communion on the tongue while kneeling to be the norn, then highly publicized events such as these are perfect opportunities to show the intent of the Holy Father to the world. I am so disappointed to see this. Bishop Fulton Sheen was right: it will be up to the laity to restore and preserve our Roman Catholic Tradition …More
You will know them by their fruits. Talk is cheap. If the Holy Father wishes for communion on the tongue while kneeling to be the norn, then highly publicized events such as these are perfect opportunities to show the intent of the Holy Father to the world. I am so disappointed to see this. Bishop Fulton Sheen was right: it will be up to the laity to restore and preserve our Roman Catholic Tradition. It will be a fight to the bitter end.
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Yes, the irony! 😲